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Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body #2485208
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Hi all,

1971 Satellite. Something else that a previous owner hacked off. This is coming thru the firewall, below the bulkhead connector. I haven't been able to find it in the manuals I have, and can't get into the interior of the car right now to see where it's coming from. Any ideas?

Roger

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throttle cable...

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The throttle cable is above that next to the bulkhead connector. Is it a cruise control car? Looks like a cable of some sort. The hood release is on the other side of the brake booster/master.

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Originally Posted By T2R9
The throttle cable is above that next to the bulkhead connector. Is it a cruise control car? Looks like a cable of some sort. The hood release is on the other side of the brake booster/master.
Correct, the throttle pedal lever is longer{higher up} than the hole in question..That hole is actually behind the throttle lever in action on the inside...

Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: Fab64] #2485339
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Is or was it a four speed car?

Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: 340cpe] #2485340
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It originally came with cruise control, and it is an automatic.

Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: Fab64] #2485542
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What does it go to inside the car ???

Nothing I love more than when someone repaints the engine compartment and leaves everything that wasn't there originally in place ... ugh


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Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: JohnRR] #2485599
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Originally Posted By JohnRR
What does it go to inside the car ???

Unfortunately, I can't get inside the car right now. I'll check later today, I just thought someone might know. I'm guessing it's something to do with cruise control. I'll post it when I find out.

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Nothing I love more than when someone repaints the engine compartment and leaves everything that wasn't there originally in place ... ugh

Yeah, bugs me too. My engine's currently out, so I'm going to try to clean up what I can.

Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: Fab64] #2485644
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Ok, got inside the car. Unfortunately, whomever removed it very crudely hacked it off inside. It's right above the accelerator pedal bracket, an electrical cable of some sort, still can't tell what it is:

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Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: Fab64] #2485648
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Looks like speedometer cable.. But they are usually to the left side, not above the gas pedal. Cruise control had the cable router from the servo to speedo in the same hole as a non cruise car.

Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: Fab64] #2485658
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Originally Posted By Fab64
Hi all,

1971 Satellite. Something else that a previous owner hacked off. This is coming thru the firewall, below the bulkhead connector. I haven't been able to find it in the manuals I have, and can't get into the interior of the car right now to see where it's coming from. Any ideas?

Roger


I have the same grommet on my 68 GTS. It's the tach wire.


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Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: Fab64] #2485659
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Pull grommet out. Carefully pull remaining wire stub out. If its for the tach, the wire should be grey.


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Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: RoadRunner] #2485667
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Originally Posted By RoadRunner
Pull grommet out. Carefully pull remaining wire stub out. If its for the tach, the wire should be grey.



I stand corrected. I looked at a wiring diagram and the tach wire goes through the firewall via the bulkhead connector and yes, its a gray wire. 69 and earlier had a grommet/wire that went through the firewall and it was gray.


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1970 B body the tach wire ( grey wire ) goes thru firewall above bulkhead connector. and it has its own grommet.
Otherwise , Im not familar with 71 and later cars to help

Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: gtx6970] #2485711
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I stripped some of the outer casing away, and there are 3 wires: Black, Green and Red. Looking at the wiring diagrams on pages 8-152 & 153, I don't see anything that matches. They also look like they're cloth-wrapped.

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Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: Fab64] #2485719
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That's some big gauge wire. Was the car a service vehicle in a previous life?

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Originally Posted By BcudaChris
That's some big gauge wire. Was the car a service vehicle in a previous life?

Not that I know of. shruggy

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Re: Identify this item coming thru firewall of '71 B Body [Re: Fab64] #2485755
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That is definitely Cruise control wires! I took some pictures of mine. They are quite heavy gauge and reduce down to very light gauge inside the cabin after the connector and up the steering column. My originals had the canvas cover on them as well, that was deteriorated out near the servo, so I replaced with a harness off a '73 (the original had a red appearing wire) like yours, the '73 had different colors but that may have been just the way they aged. The FSM shows them to be yellow, black and dark blue but they appear to be yellow, black and green. here are some pics if I can do this right.....

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Pages 8-152 & 153 are for Challenger (Rallye cluster). I think you want to be back at 8-165.

Oops! yours might be different in a Plymouth manual. Mine is for the Dodge.
Never the less..... It should be the same for '71 B-bodies. twocents

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Originally Posted By 71 Charger R/T
Pages 8-152 & 153 are for Challenger (Rallye cluster). I think you want to be back at 8-165.

Oops! yours might be different in a Plymouth manual. Mine is for the Dodge.
Never the less..... It should be the same for '71 B-bodies. twocents

Yeah, I'm using the 1971 Plymouth Chassis Manual, and those two pages contain the engine wiring diagram for Barracuda and Satellite.

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Page 8-181 in the accessory wiring section shows it in my 71 Plymouth manual.

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Originally Posted By 71 Charger R/T
That is definitely Cruise control wires! I took some pictures of mine. They are quite heavy gauge and reduce down to very light gauge inside the cabin after the connector and up the steering column. My originals had the canvas cover on them as well, that was deteriorated out near the servo, so I replaced with a harness off a '73 (the original had a red appearing wire) like yours, the '73 had different colors but that may have been just the way they aged. The FSM shows them to be yellow, black and dark blue but they appear to be yellow, black and green. here are some pics if I can do this right.....

Thanks, I think we have a winner! Not sure why my wires are different color, but this looks like what it is. The only part that is still on the car is the turn-signal lever, and I'm not going to try to restore everything else. I'm already into enough work trying to replace all the under-hood components of the A/C system. Thanks, everyone! beer

Roger

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If you need to get rid of that lever, I'll gladly take it off your hands! whistling

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Originally Posted By 71 Charger R/T
If you need to get rid of that lever, I'll gladly take it off your hands! whistling

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And I'd be interested in that grommet if you aren't using it. I'd send you a plastic hole plug replacment.

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That would be great, I was going to look for something to replace the hole in the firewall. Do you need the diameter?

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