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The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust #2482677
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Suppose I'm alone in my hate of this


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482682
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Well it is mostly a it won't fit under the car thing. If you are using a bigger collector you run out of room if your car is lowered a bunch in the front. Also an issue of heating up the drivers floor board to the point of blistering the feet. Now because it is cool on the fast cars the not so fast cars are doing it.
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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482683
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I dont know why you hate it.. most all of the
turbo cars run it.. put the exhaust where ever
it fits and out of the way.. plus its easier
to fab up(most of the time)
wave

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482696
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1 ..its stupid loud, all we need is more reasons to want to shut tracks down
2.. locally, even 12 2nd cars are doing it ..
3.. often , I'm in my car in staging , they pull up, running e85 or alcohol
not smart enough to run the car at their spot and warm it up , run that stinky cra p right at me ..fumes me out, plus the rev tune it , obnoxious

4 .. nhra prostock does not shoot the exhaust thru the fender, so most of those reasons above are not vaild


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482702
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I kinda like it, but doesn't the rule book say the exhaust has to exit toward the rear of the car?


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: slantzilla] #2482703
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
I kinda like it, but doesn't the rule book say the exhaust has to exit toward the rear of the car?



don't know , sure wish that was something they enforced

we have two s-10 chebbie trucks, run 12.50's .. with thru fender exhaust
beyond ridiculous


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482704
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Originally Posted By bigdad
1 ..its stupid loud, all we need is more reasons to want to shut tracks down
2.. locally, even 12 2nd cars are doing it ..
3.. often , I'm in my car in staging , they pull up, running e85 or alcohol
not smart enough to run the car at their spot and warm it up , run that stinky cra p right at me ..fumes me out, plus the rev tune it , obnoxious

4 .. nhra prostock does not shoot the exhaust thru the fender, so most of those reasons above are not vaild


God.. you sound like your 90 years old.. maybe you
need to take up golf and put the car away and all the
above are valid
wave

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482708
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yeah I am not a big fan but not my car not my problem lol. I do think some of the turbo cars sound pretty good. There is a fine line between them sounding like a tractor at idle and sounding good. I think that line is about 800HP wink


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You know what they say, If its too Loud your too Old. whistling


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2482715
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By bigdad
1 ..its stupid loud, all we need is more reasons to want to shut tracks down
2.. locally, even 12 2nd cars are doing it ..
3.. often , I'm in my car in staging , they pull up, running e85 or alcohol
not smart enough to run the car at their spot and warm it up , run that stinky cra p right at me ..fumes me out, plus the rev tune it , obnoxious

4 .. nhra prostock does not shoot the exhaust thru the fender, so most of those reasons above are not vaild


God.. you sound like your 90 years old.. maybe you
need to take up golf and put the car away and all the
above are valid
wave





Man do I agree

some of you guys should take up fishing. Lol


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2482717
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By bigdad
1 ..its stupid loud, all we need is more reasons to want to shut tracks down
2.. locally, even 12 2nd cars are doing it ..
3.. often , I'm in my car in staging , they pull up, running e85 or alcohol
not smart enough to run the car at their spot and warm it up , run that stinky cra p right at me ..fumes me out, plus the rev tune it , obnoxious

4 .. nhra prostock does not shoot the exhaust thru the fender, so most of those reasons above are not vaild


God.. you sound like your 90 years old.. maybe you
need to take up golf and put the car away and all the
above are valid
wave



Lol..... grin

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482721
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after 50 years , our local track and its in the country .
Has a noise curfew ..

And , if me ,breathing exhaust fumes from a pos pickup is being grumpy then so be it.


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482722
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I like them out the fender,,louder is good since I'm half deaf anyway.

Better to spray oil, and water away from the rear tires in a blowup too.

Pretty flames while the spray is on.

cooler in the car, less dust up from the ground, better for the driver with the fumes choking you in the lanes instead of me lol.

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We had our opening day at Keystone today so I’m here spectating to hopefully get my butt in gear. There has to be at least 35 Jr Dragsters here today and there’s nothing and I mean nothing that sounds worse than these dam things.


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: pittsburghracer] #2482744
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By bigdad
1 ..its stupid loud, all we need is more reasons to want to shut tracks down
2.. locally, even 12 2nd cars are doing it ..
3.. often , I'm in my car in staging , they pull up, running e85 or alcohol
not smart enough to run the car at their spot and warm it up , run that stinky cra p right at me ..fumes me out, plus the rev tune it , obnoxious

4 .. nhra prostock does not shoot the exhaust thru the fender, so most of those reasons above are not vaild


God.. you sound like your 90 years old.. maybe you
need to take up golf and put the car away and all the
above are valid
wave





Man do I agree

some of you guys should take up fishing. Lol


I like fishing and fender exit exhaust


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nothing that sounds worse than these dam things, they're like very loud lawnmower


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2482758
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When I left NY, noise regulations were already pretty tight. 104db was max, and a stroker big block would get past that without much effort. Instead of the track mandating mufflers, they tried turn downs first. Seemed to help a lot. Side fender exhaust, I can't see going over very well with the noise police.


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Originally Posted By dthemi
ground, better for the driver with the fumes choking you in the lanes instead of me lol.


thanks for the sportsmanship


The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6
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[/quote]

Man do I agree

some of you guys should take up fishing. Lol [/quote]

I like fishing and fender exit exhaust [/quote]

Yup

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I like em but agree that it's getting a little stupid if your running them on a 12 second shitbox, they are doing it down here but seems to be only on the super fast radial cars.

Now TURN DOWNS, they should be banned. How many have been dusted after you spent the morning polishing your car ?


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I thought about putting the exhaust out the fender when I built my car but, I just couldn't do it. It would have been much easier though.

I don't like to fish but I do like to golf.


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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
We had our opening day at Keystone today so I’m here spectating to hopefully get my butt in gear. There has to be at least 35 Jr Dragsters here today and there’s nothing and I mean nothing that sounds worse than these dam things.


Those are 35 individuals that will grow into a full size race car, and keep this sport going. Without a youth program to get kids interested in it, this sort will die. Embrace it.


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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
We had our opening day at Keystone today so I’m here spectating to hopefully get my butt in gear. There has to be at least 35 Jr Dragsters here today and there’s nothing and I mean nothing that sounds worse than these dam things.


Those are 35 individuals that will grow into a full size race car, and keep this sport going. Without a youth program to get kids interested in it, this sort will die. Embrace it.
You would think. Most of them grow up making the most trouble at the track and complaining about everything.

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I cant stand the echo of a chainsaw in a bathtub prior to 5:30 am. Or crickets that prostitute themselves out for only a few chirps.

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I'm going to be the next trendsetter with these:

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Originally Posted By cdwmotorsports
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By bigdad
1 ..its stupid loud, all we need is more reasons to want to shut tracks down
2.. locally, even 12 2nd cars are doing it ..
3.. often , I'm in my car in staging , they pull up, running e85 or alcohol
not smart enough to run the car at their spot and warm it up , run that stinky cra p right at me ..fumes me out, plus the rev tune it , obnoxious

4 .. nhra prostock does not shoot the exhaust thru the fender, so most of those reasons above are not vaild


God.. you sound like your 90 years old.. maybe you
need to take up golf and put the car away and all the
above are valid
wave





Man do I agree

some of you guys should take up fishing. Lol


I like fishing and fender exit exhaust


Pina Coladas? Gettin' caught in the rain?


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Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: GY3] #2482814
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Originally Posted By GY3
I'm going to be the next trendsetter with these:



There was a guy a few years ago that mounted his headers like they use in drag boats except exhaust going forward. Had 2 big slots in the hood so it would open. LOL What a piece of crap, but he was racing.


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Some might even go for that, but from where your from you now better, I think we first used/made them in 1976.


As joe dirt as it may be I used to want to run the 8 zoomie type pipes on the street, just BECAUSE they were loud, cool and looked like a fire breathing dragon at night.

But imagine the fumes that would be in the car/cabin.



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I'm going to be the next trendsetter with these:


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I will say I am not a huge fan wither but in some circumstances it makes plenty of since. I wish I had done it on my stratus initially and when we do the stainless stuff they will be fender exit.


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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
We had our opening day at Keystone today so I’m here spectating to hopefully get my butt in gear. There has to be at least 35 Jr Dragsters here today and there’s nothing and I mean nothing that sounds worse than these dam things.


Those are 35 individuals that will grow into a full size race car, and keep this sport going. Without a youth program to get kids interested in it, this sort will die. Embrace it.

IF, their daddy pays for it! You would think it would happen, but very seldom and I don't have the answer. Maybe they don't have the passion like their dad-mom did.
Running the pipes out the fender is just lazy and being a copycat.

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Originally Posted By GY3
I'm going to be the next trendsetter with these:


That car must be 10 ft off the ground

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Darned old noisy drag cars...

Noisy jr dragsters too... Jegs sells an electric jr.

All kidding aside, I'm old too. There are times when being further deafened, and choked in the lanes bothers me too, when in the past I wouldn't have even noticed.

I hate 20 people on the line with a small tire car since it takes 10 minutes for them to do a burnout, and stage. Only to blow the tires off, leak, stall, backfire, not restart, ect. I even look at the crowd the same way my parents probably looked at hippies lol.

Getting old is a cruel joke to play on people.

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I am not a fan of the thru fender exhaust, but it sure makes things simple. I don't think side exhaust sounds as good as chassis type as you mainly hear just the one side facing you if you are close.
The most annoying drag car sound for me was the Mazda rotary 90 cube . Like the Terry Hoard car of years ago. High rpm and powerful, but terrible to hear. no

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Really I was kinda down on the fender ex when it first came out, there really has to be some inventive ways with the oval pipe and such to get it further back. Cant call the big dogs lazy for it because there cars rock but if the rules had mandated it goes back so far im sure they would of found a way.

Alot of states say to the rear bumper or at least behind the rear tires and for big ex. for any street driven and its a pain and costly but we still do it.

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Originally Posted By GY3
I'm going to be the next trendsetter with these:



I'd burn my forehead setting the valves.👍


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Originally Posted By GY3
I'm going to be the next trendsetter with these:



I'd burn my forehead setting the valves.👍




Diesel drag trucks do it , why not ?


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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Originally Posted By GY3
I'm going to be the next trendsetter with these:


That car must be 10 ft off the ground


and also MUST have those flappy things on the ends..... biggrin
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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: dthemi] #2483051
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Originally Posted By dthemi

Getting old is a cruel joke to play on people.


Now get off my lawn! laugh2


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2483053
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Originally Posted By GY3
Originally Posted By cdwmotorsports
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY


God.. you sound like your 90 years old.. maybe you
need to take up golf and put the car away and all the
above are valid
wave





Man do I agree

some of you guys should take up fishing. Lol


I like fishing and fender exit exhaust


Pina Coladas? Gettin' caught in the rain?


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2483070
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How bout 1/4 exit? p.s. im 52 and like fishing, hunting, beer and bad ass mopars. LOL

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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2483097
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I don't mind it. Makes sense from a packaging standpoint. But add Bull Horns, Yuuuuucccccckkkkkk.
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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: dvw] #2483104
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My S/P car has 4.0 inch turn outs exiting under the front edge of the doors, Portland International raceway has a noise limit of 95 DB taken at the 330 lights on the drivers side of the track, my car is louder than that with the turn outs pointed out. The track manager suggested turning the drivers side turn out towards the passenger side, I did and that worked great up work
A lot of the NHRA S/G racers where pointing theirs both inwards to have them help cancel each side out as well as adding skirting onto the rocker panels to keep the noise under the car work
As far as warming up my car on E85 in the lanes, I don't down
I drive it around the pits to get the engine oil, tranny fluid and rear gear oil warmed up before making a run up

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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2483116
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With a turbo up front, it makes sense to go through the fender or out from underneath up front. Zoomies are what they are. Nitrous? I wouldn't want a 5" flamethrower under the car and the turnups add downforce to the car. Other then being on something that it makes sense on, it looks as stupid as someone helping a guy get a 12 second turd into the beams, like they do at Lights Out..

You guys who don't like Jr Dragsters just don't like having to race a kid with 18 year old reflexes and eyesight, great hand-eye coordination from the video games, and 10 years of drag racing experience.

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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: Cab_Burge] #2483119
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On my Rampage I have the dumps both facing inward
to try and cancel each other.. I havent checked
the DB on it to see if it helps.. but it should
wave

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2483122
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
On my Rampage I have the dumps both facing inward
to try and cancel each other.. I havent checked
the DB on it to see if it helps.. but it should
wave



Back when NHRA was on the muffler kick and checking DBs at national events, this was a recommended set up to reduce noise outside the car. Driver probably needs ear plugs though.


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487138
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Originally Posted By bigdad
Suppose I'm alone in my hate of this


I feel like I let a hero down...








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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487148
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Turbo cars really isn't my gripe , exhaust down low isn't my gripe
most of those people are professional test and tuners .

My gripe with them is it takes 6 people to run the car and 15 minutes to stage it .

Its the people that poke them thru with a N/A slow car , right about belly button height


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487171
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I am not a fan of the glory holes or bull horns. I understand that with packaging, wheel stands, etc sometimes it is needed. I won't be hole sawing my fenders anytime soon for them.... Cracks me up though when you see a car coming back thru the pits after a pass and the whole side of the car is black if the tune is off.


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I'm going to weld up my side exit holes on my blue Duster and run them under the chassis now that I know a few guys on Moparts don't like it done that way. LOL.




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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: pittsburghracer] #2487212
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I'm going to weld up my side exit holes on my blue Duster and run them under the chassis now that I know a few guys on Moparts don't like it done that way. LOL.




10959870_10204537706376702_5361257763517457781_n by John Cadamore, on Flickr

While you're at it, can you throw a coat of paint on those rear shocks. I feel the red color is intimidating and makes me feel threatened by race cars. Great! Now I have to go see a shrink. I hope you're happy.





Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: sgcuda] #2487224
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Originally Posted By sgcuda
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
I'm going to weld up my side exit holes on my blue Duster and run them under the chassis now that I know a few guys on Moparts don't like it done that way. LOL.




10959870_10204537706376702_5361257763517457781_n by John Cadamore, on Flickr

While you're at it, can you throw a coat of paint on those rear shocks. I feel the red color is intimidating and makes me feel threatened by race cars. Great! Now I have to go see a shrink. I hope you're happy.









Those red JC Whitney shocks intimidate me too. Lol 😂


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487230
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Even the fans don't like it, they must all be going to the toilet.

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: pittsburghracer] #2487240
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John...Why a chute on an 11 second car?? stirthepot


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Originally Posted By tboomer
John...Why a chute on an 11 second car?? stirthepot



Man why does everyone always pick on me. Lol. I’m going to go pet my therapy kitty 🐱


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: pittsburghracer] #2487243
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By tboomer
John...Why a chute on an 11 second car?? stirthepot



Man why does everyone always pick on me. Lol. I’m going to go pet my therapy kitty 🐱


Because you are easy!! laugh2 wave


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2487245
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Mr P : As an audio engineer for the last 38 years: i can tell you Factually that yes, you can tune out "certain" frequencies by turning the pipes toward each other .

Here's the deal- it takes work, time, rpm and a real time analyzer with a decent reference mic to know what your tuning, what your canceling etc.

That said- in todays world, we actually have some very good apps for this on the iphone- believe it or not , every professional concert engineer has them for spot checks etc.

there are some things to know, be aware of such as frequencies below 100 hz being fairly omni directional and big bore stroker motors have plenty down low.

If anyone wants to put their car on a chassis dyno to do exhaust tuning for cancellation to achieve as much sound control as possible, feel free to contact me and i will be happy to help remotely.

This is the one area I feel certain i could be of help to the moparts community.

If this is a big deal or, coming big deal- I may put our car on the chassis dyno and get some readings/test bed work done and share it.
There will be certain areas that will be general rules- data that applies to all etc.

Sound is simply the movement of air at different rates of speed/vibration- its just math.

If we know the frequency areas that are exceeding limits, we can tune to reduce/cancel and thus produce results.

I should be at the track Saturday to help some guys with chassis tuning and will try to get some audio data while there, its an interesting subject.

If there is interest in this area- let me know .
It would be nice to give something back to this community.

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487248
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I feel sure there is already some data out there I can access - will take a look .

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: RustyM] #2487256
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Originally Posted By RustyM
Mr P : As an audio engineer for the last 38 years: i can tell you Factually that yes, you can tune out "certain" frequencies by turning the pipes toward each other .

Here's the deal- it takes work, time, rpm and a real time analyzer with a decent reference mic to know what your tuning, what your canceling etc.

That said- in todays world, we actually have some very good apps for this on the iphone- believe it or not , every professional concert engineer has them for spot checks etc.

there are some things to know, be aware of such as frequencies below 100 hz being fairly omni directional and big bore stroker motors have plenty down low.

If anyone wants to put their car on a chassis dyno to do exhaust tuning for cancellation to achieve as much sound control as possible, feel free to contact me and i will be happy to help remotely.

This is the one area I feel certain i could be of help to the moparts community.

If this is a big deal or, coming big deal- I may put our car on the chassis dyno and get some readings/test bed work done and share it.
There will be certain areas that will be general rules- data that applies to all etc.

Sound is simply the movement of air at different rates of speed/vibration- its just math.

If we know the frequency areas that are exceeding limits, we can tune to reduce/cancel and thus produce results.

I should be at the track Saturday to help some guys with chassis tuning and will try to get some audio data while there, its an interesting subject.

If there is interest in this area- let me know .
It would be nice to give something back to this community.
I hope you can do this!


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: RustyM] #2487297
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Originally Posted By RustyM
I feel sure there is already some data out there I can access - will take a look .


I spent about 20 years in the exhaust lab doing
mainly exhaust and also worked as a sound guy
in a band for 4 more years.. was fun but a PITA
till I quit that.. my total time at Chrysler was
35 years.. 90% of the time in fuel and exhaust

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3M has some base data- not much help.
So far i'm not finding much data specific to the task.
Some levels but, not much on frequencies or null tuning.

Will try to get us some decent data points .

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487335
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I wouldn't call it a hot new trend. People have been doing it for many years, and for various aforementioned reasons. Fast or slow, who really cares. Some get the "look" just right and some don't.

I always get a good chuckle when a nitrous guy bangs a gun through the motor and his crew guy is standing right in the line of fire....LMAO!


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Getting a little closer on mine today. Bigdads never gonna sell me his truck now





Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: joshking440] #2487423
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Originally Posted By joshking440
Getting a little closer on mine today. Bigdads never gonna sell me his truck now










That will never pass state inspection. It’s gonna burn the paint off the other cars beside it and the hair off the old ladies legs walking down the sidewalk


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487476
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You will love my side fender exit exhaust compared to the BBC it is attached to. ozbbq

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487496
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Originally Posted By bigdad
1 ..its stupid loud, all we need is more reasons to want to shut tracks down
2.. locally, even 12 2nd cars are doing it ..
3.. often , I'm in my car in staging , they pull up, running e85 or alcohol
not smart enough to run the car at their spot and warm it up , run that stinky cra p right at me ..fumes me out, plus the rev tune it , obnoxious

4 .. nhra prostock does not shoot the exhaust thru the fender, so most of those reasons above are not vaild


Loud and stinky bothers you? Time to find a new sport. pity

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Originally Posted By GY3
I'm going to be the next trendsetter with these:



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Does anyone make fake through the fender exhaust kits? Asking for a friend....

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Fake fender exit exhaust is real quiet to.


it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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I’m going to put mufflers on my fake side exit headers


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487586
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Flip's el camino fender headers were not a new trend but they were annoyingly loud. The fender headers and the the low buck look had to have suckered some quick bucks for him on the street. RIP Flip. angel


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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487628
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Remember the old way? Old school is still cool! whistling

Smally tire at the track,,,,and how fast does one have to be,,,,to be considered "fast"?

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Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: Quickrunner] #2487823
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Mine exits there as well but using a slightly different configuration.

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: BobR] #2487826
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Not smart enough to post a picture but I can post a link.

https://www.facebook.com/protorque/photo...e=3&theater

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: BobR] #2487958
04/25/18 08:51 PM
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I'm with Big Dad on this. If it's the only way to get the header to fit, okay. Call me old school. I'll survive.

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2487982
04/25/18 09:55 PM
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On my way to South Dakota to race with big dad.

E85 and all.


Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2488008
04/25/18 11:13 PM
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Wait til some guy pulls up to someone on the street, rollin' coal, with a side exhaust like that...

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: polyspheric] #2488009
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Originally Posted By polyspheric
nothing that sounds worse than these dam things, they're like very loud lawnmower

Try an old rotary Mazda on Nitro...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYpvgKyGm40

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bigdad] #2488268
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I'm just happy to make it to the track. Doesn't happen very often these days.

Re: The hot new trend --Thru fender exhaust [Re: bobby66] #2488303
04/26/18 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By bobby66
I'm just happy to make it to the track. Doesn't happen very often these days.

iagree

If I had a strictly race car, I'd have fender exits on it, although I like em low and behind the front tire. Makes transmission access SOOOOO much easier.
And yeah, the bullhorns (or whatever you want to call em) look like dog crap.


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'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
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