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Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts #2481367 04/11/18 11:15 PM 04/11/18 11:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 35,160 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad OP Still Posting A Lot
bigdad OP Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 35,160 S.E. South Dakota !	Do you think a standard one out a 1994 Dodge 318 1500 pickup is any different than the Mopar ones in Jegs or Summit, or ? The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481383 04/11/18 11:38 PM 04/11/18 11:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,794 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar master
OhioMopar master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,794 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Idk about any difference, but I know quite a few people that have run a Ram/Dakota starter successfully for quite some time. I have always used Mancini's starters. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 1999 Dodge Dakota R/T RC 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: OhioMopar] #2481391 04/11/18 11:49 PM 04/11/18 11:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA.	I used to buy the stock mini starters at the junkyard and take them to my local starter and alternator rebuild shop for a freshen job. Now I go online to a Advance auto and buy a start for a 1995 Dodge Ram truck. Get the 25-30% off then go to the store 5 minutes later to pick it up. Then I get a coupon in my email a couple weeks later for 5-10.00 on my next purchase 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481400 04/11/18 11:57 PM 04/11/18 11:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	I've been buying db electrical starters and alternators on ebay, everyone has worked great. I'd guess the ones summit/jegs sell are new and advance and so on are remans. 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: Silver70] #2481494 04/12/18 08:33 AM 04/12/18 08:33 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 35,160 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad OP Still Posting A Lot
bigdad OP Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 35,160 S.E. South Dakota !	They(Mancini) rate them via how much compression your motor is .. price seems to have jumped a lot since last time I bought one http://www.manciniracing.com/starters.html Think I will just try one from NAPA The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481506 04/12/18 09:16 AM 04/12/18 09:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA.	One of our members has posted in the past about mopar starters as he sells them. He posted up some good info that could probably be found with a search 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: pittsburghracer] #2481518 04/12/18 09:41 AM 04/12/18 09:41 AM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 35,160 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad OP Still Posting A Lot
bigdad OP Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 35,160 S.E. South Dakota !	My new headers are TTI This is what they say but, can't get these numbers to cross reference except that powermaster one and its $310 • Chrysler part no's: R53005984, 56027702AC • Mopar Performance part no's: P5249644AB, P5007860, P4286522 • PowerMaster Performance XS torque starter no: 9523 (!) 440 applications with an 11" flywheel 143-tooth ring gear: Must use a RobbMc Performance starter #3005. The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481522 04/12/18 10:02 AM 04/12/18 10:02 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 939 B birdtracker super stock
birdtracker super stock B Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 939	all the starters are the same. There is a set of $3 contacts inside that flatten out over time. I have used the same starter for over 15 years on 2 different engines. First one was 12-5-1 and the last one was 14.75-1. It will go right back on my new engine. I buy the exact starter you have listed V-8 1500 for other peoples projects with no problems. Birdtracker

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481543 04/12/18 10:35 AM 04/12/18 10:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ M MoparBilly master
MoparBilly master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,448 Phoenix, AZ	I read somewhere that Denso no longer makes that starter new, so everything you buy now is a reman and core charge is higher, hence the jump in price. "Livin' in a powder keg and givin' off sparks" 4 Street cars, 5 Race engines

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481611 04/12/18 12:21 PM 04/12/18 12:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown 5 590 Challenger mopar
590 Challenger mopar 5 Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown	I have 5 new mini starters left, $79 shipped to your door

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: 590 Challenger] #2481616 04/12/18 12:36 PM 04/12/18 12:36 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA.	Originally Posted By 590 Challenger I have 5 new mini starters left, $79 shipped to your door PM sent 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481623 04/12/18 12:52 PM 04/12/18 12:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,785 Keymar, MD DusterKid top fuel
DusterKid top fuel Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,785 Keymar, MD	Originally Posted By bigdad They(Mancini) rate them via how much compression your motor is .. price seems to have jumped a lot since last time I bought one http://www.manciniracing.com/starters.html Think I will just try one from NAPA Personally I'd steer clear of napa starters...went thru 3 of them on my wifes Ford car over 2 yrs...They are good when they work, but when you get to 4th or 5th round and the starter takes a crap, you'll wish you hadn't. I know 1st hand, unhappy wife, got a nice B&M starter on there now going on 3 yrs strong.

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: DusterKid] #2481631 04/12/18 12:58 PM 04/12/18 12:58 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 35,160 S.E. South Dakota ! bigdad OP Still Posting A Lot
bigdad OP Still Posting A Lot Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 35,160 S.E. South Dakota !	Originally Posted By DusterKid Originally Posted By bigdad They(Mancini) rate them via how much compression your motor is .. price seems to have jumped a lot since last time I bought one http://www.manciniracing.com/starters.html Think I will just try one from NAPA Personally I'd steer clear of napa starters...went thru 3 of them on my wifes Ford car over 2 yrs...They are good when they work, but when you get to 4th or 5th round and the starter takes a crap, you'll wish you hadn't. I know 1st hand, unhappy wife, got a nice B&M starter on there now going on 3 yrs strong. Everyone else that posted did not say that ? I doubt I'll make it to the 5th round anyway (lol) not sure what a B&M starter is , may not fit with my TTI headers ? The lips of fools bring them strife, and their mouths invite a beating.Proverbs 18:6

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481632 04/12/18 01:00 PM 04/12/18 01:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown 5 590 Challenger mopar
590 Challenger mopar 5 Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown	I use mt own starters I sell on my hot rod and throw 24V at it to spin it fast enough to fire the mag, haven't blown one up yet

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: 590 Challenger] #2481675 04/12/18 02:13 PM 04/12/18 02:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,422 Pittsburgh PA Eric top fuel
Eric top fuel Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,422 Pittsburgh PA	Originally Posted By 590 Challenger I have 5 new mini starters left, $79 shipped to your door Can you adjust the clock position on yours? 5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: Eric] #2481677 04/12/18 02:17 PM 04/12/18 02:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown 5 590 Challenger mopar
590 Challenger mopar 5 Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown	Originally Posted By Eric Originally Posted By 590 Challenger I have 5 new mini starters left, $79 shipped to your door Can you adjust the clock position on yours? NO, you would have to contact IMI for that, they own the patent for those, they are pricey. I do sell tons of starters to race starter shops that slap their own label on them and resale to place's like Jeg's, Summit......

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481678 04/12/18 02:18 PM 04/12/18 02:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,592 Fulton County, PA C CMcAllister Mr. Helpful
CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,592 Fulton County, PA	This is the Nippondenso starter that was sold by MP and I used for years with good results. There are remans, new, and Chinese copies available most places. Price and origin are a big indicator of quality. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481715 04/12/18 03:29 PM 04/12/18 03:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown 5 590 Challenger mopar
590 Challenger mopar 5 Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown	Confused about the new and Chinesse and origin comment, there are over 250 starter shop in China that make that starter, I deal with about 15 of them, no one outside of China makes it that I know of (definitely no US sources) Japan is the only other place that they come from (the OE) but I would bet money that at the low price Denso doesn’t even make them anymore, and would buy sub assemblies out of China and assemble and put a Japan sticker on them. And no, not all China factories are the same, But truthfully on price, it determines more on how far you are down the line getting it, In China they are all with in about $2 of each other......everything else is just mark up, so if one is twice as much as another, someone just made more along the way

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: 590 Challenger] #2481732 04/12/18 04:09 PM 04/12/18 04:09 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	Originally Posted By 590 Challenger Confused about the new and Chinesse and origin comment, there are over 250 starter shop in China that make that starter, I deal with about 15 of them, no one outside of China makes it that I know of (definitely no US sources) Japan is the only other place that they come from (the OE) but I would bet money that at the low price Denso doesn’t even make them anymore, and would buy sub assemblies out of China and assemble and put a Japan sticker on them. And no, not all China factories are the same, But truthfully on price, it determines more on how far you are down the line getting it, In China they are all with in about $2 of each other......everything else is just mark up, so if one is twice as much as another, someone just made more along the way Good to get info from someone who knows what they are talking about... so much bad info gets spread by people who assume things. Not meaning anyone in this thread, just in general. There are so many rebranded/labeled parts out there and prices are all over. So many people will pay more thinking that means your getting a better part when they could get the same thing for way less. 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: Starters Big Box store Vs Local auto parts [Re: bigdad] #2481744 04/12/18 04:28 PM 04/12/18 04:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown 5 590 Challenger mopar
590 Challenger mopar 5 Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 493 Parts unknown	It funny you say that, I sell things on eBay under a few names, priced Low, Medium and Higher. People do think that, Some people shop price, kool. Some don’t want the Cheapest thing and buy the more expensive one, very kool. Some think they are buying the best and buy the highest priced one, I love them. Why would I market it just to one group? If people feel good about spending more, well let’s just say I’m willing to keep them happy. I sell them all the same starters

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