Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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I would pull the distributor and give it a good prime.
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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Do i need to prime the oil? Should i prime the oil? (1) Wouldn't hurt (2) I would. Bump the eng till the rotor is at the #8 plug wire cap terminal then pull the dist/intergear & preoil then turn the crank 3/4 turn CW till the dampener slit is on TDC on the timing tab & preoil again then back up the crank slightly to 15 (BTDC) & install the intergear/dist with the magnet dead even with the tooth with the rotor under or near under the #6 cap tower. EDIT just a FYI regarding final intergear clocking, OE routing is with you on the pass side fender looking across sideways to the dr side, the can pointing straight across (12 0'clock)/#1 plug wire at 5 0'clock/just below the forward dist cap retainer clip. this maintains the OE standardization (always helps) & lets the plug wires nestle the neatest with the shortest lengths possible tho as you know intergear clocking can be set anywhere as long as the dist has room to be turned without the can hitting anything.
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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It can' hurt to prime it, never spin it on the starter to prime it, even with the spark plugs out The Chevy guys use to do that but you need to remember their oil pump is submerged in oil, not like our oil pump being mounted on the outside of the block with a long oil pickup The motor on the starter might revolve 300 to 500 RPM, running it is well above that so it will get oil pressure a lot sooner running than on the starter
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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I have been started our 73 440 Dart every 6 mths or so for the past 18 years and have never done anything special for start up. I do watch the mechanical oil pressure gauge, normally it shows pressure in 10 seconds or so. We run 15W40 oil and a WIX filter. Make sure the battery is up so it spins. We built the engine (from a 72 New Yorker) in 2000, just raised compression to respectable. AND add an electric fuel pump and a primmer switch so the carb starts out with the float bowl full of fuel BEFORE you attempt to start.
Also have an old International Neuss Diesel Utility Tractor, 30 WT and a WIX, that can go months without a start. It quickly starts up with a good battery and the OP builds instantly.
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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Only 6-12 months? Crank it and go. Ding ding ding I (do) believe we have a winna!
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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You'll do more good by priming the carb bowls than you will priming the oil pump in the timeframe you're talking about here... another winna
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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It can' hurt to prime it, never spin it on the starter to prime it, I agree with this since it may take hundreds of revolutions before the bearings get oil pressure. Some time way after that will be the rockers shafts, then rocker arms. Possibly valve tips next. The top of the pushrods may be never at cranking speed. Oil will eventually flood the head and roll down the valley are lube most of the lifters and hopefully most of the camshaft lobes. Some things like cylinder walls, pistons and rings, may be never. Set it up for a proper oil pump only prime. Slow rotate crankshaft 2 turns or until each rocker shaft pressurizes OR prepare for an instant fire up and let it run.
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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Living in WI
I don’t know about anybody else , but I don’t drive my car from about October thru , well this year it might bee July looking outside
Anyways , every spring I go thru the ritual of cranking over the engine , waiting for the carb to fill with fuel , then try to fire it up waiting for oil pressure
Just rebuilt my numbers motor with a Stroker Kit this past year
It’s been about 25 years since the last rebuild , long story short , all bearings , pistons , rings , block stayed at .030 over , looked pretty damn good according to my machine shop
So 25 years of letting it sit for six months or more every winter before cranking it over for an extended period of time every spring waiting for fuel then oil pressure
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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Has anybody thought about installing an oil accumulator? I think that is a good plan tho not sure how it would hold psi over time. I'm thinking it is very helpful on the stock car in the turns if the pickup gets uncovered (I need a wider pan). It would be an unsightful addition if that is a concern/bothersome.
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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Has anybody thought about installing an oil accumulator? I know it doesn't help in this situation, but why not for those that let it sit for months. Start the car, let this build pressure, the close the handle, then next time you go to start it, before cranking it over, open the handle and let it pre-lube, then start. Sounds like it should work pretty good. Am I off here? Exactly! That's exactly what I do in my race car.
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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Re: it's been a while... do i need to oil prime the engine?
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