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Re: Neutral safety switch [Re: 451Mopar] #2476640
04/03/18 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted By 451Mopar
Is the transmission switch clicking or the relay?
I don't have a '72 wiring diagram. Could the NSS be connected to part of the ignition key buzzer? or other saftey interlock circuit under the dash? You mentioned under the sound is under the dash, and the starter relay I think is in the engine compartment (and is should not click when key is not in the start position anyhow.)
If the switch in the transmission is making a noise, check that there is a gasket between the switch and transmission case. When I got my trans from Keisler the NSS was not working. Installed too deep into the trans because they forgot the washer and it smashed the end of the NSS. Had to replace the damaged switch and install with correct washer for spacing.


The clicking is coming when the relay contacts close everytime the shifter passes through neutral. The relay is mounted just under the lip if the dash next to the glove box. The relay always made the same noise with the automatic trannys that have been in there. As said before, very simple but effective circuit.


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Re: Neutral safety switch [Re: dfsmopars] #2476643
04/03/18 07:21 AM
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1) Try a different relay, maybe not so loud
2) Make an extension harness and move relay location, maybe even out into engine compartment?

Re: Neutral safety switch [Re: dfsmopars] #2476677
04/03/18 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted By dfsmopars
Originally Posted By 451Mopar
Is the transmission switch clicking or the relay?
I don't have a '72 wiring diagram. Could the NSS be connected to part of the ignition key buzzer? or other saftey interlock circuit under the dash? You mentioned under the sound is under the dash, and the starter relay I think is in the engine compartment (and is should not click when key is not in the start position anyhow.)
If the switch in the transmission is making a noise, check that there is a gasket between the switch and transmission case. When I got my trans from Keisler the NSS was not working. Installed too deep into the trans because they forgot the washer and it smashed the end of the NSS. Had to replace the damaged switch and install with correct washer for spacing.


The clicking is coming when the relay contacts close everytime the shifter passes through neutral. The relay is mounted just under the lip if the dash next to the glove box. The relay always made the same noise with the automatic trannys that have been in there. As said before, very simple but effective circuit.


ok THAT relay is for the seatbelt warning signal not for starting. Its only function is make to light up the dash seatbelt light at map light insert and make to buzz the buzzer as soon you put the tranny in gear and seatbelts are not fastened. Is deactivated when in P or N, just like the starter relay, hence the reason could be clicking when you pass through N. Never have known this relay could be really audible that loud


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Re: Neutral safety switch [Re: dfsmopars] #2476840
04/03/18 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By dfsmopars

The clicking is coming when the relay contacts close everytime the shifter passes through neutral.


Sounds like you're using BAT or IGN1 as a source for the pull-in coil in the relay, if you use IGN2 as the source it will only be energized when the switch is in Start. (Assuming the ign sw. is stock.)


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Re: Neutral safety switch [Re: John_Kunkel] #2476947
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Pictures below. First one clicks with the ignition switch. The second is the one that clicks with the shifter. They are side by side between the glove box and ash tray. All favtorycwiring. All that is plugged into the fuse box is and 8 track tape player in IGN1.

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Re: Neutral safety switch [Re: dfsmopars] #2476959
04/03/18 06:30 PM
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Use a regular ISO relay and use IGN2 or the yellow start wire to power the pull-in coil and you won't have the annoying click with every shift.


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