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Re: Trailer tires [Re: Bull1tt] #2474011
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Originally Posted By Bull1tt
If you have LT tires on a trailer in PA, it won’t pass inspection


Plus you will get ticketed if you are pulled over in PA and they see the LT tires, other states also.


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Re: Trailer tires [Re: GOLDMYN] #2474026
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That’s important information. I would have to think trailers are easy pickin’s for DOT. It’s not like a person pulling one is inconspicuous. Can they just pull you over and check the trailer equipment or does there have to be a reason first?
It is important we all pull safely for everybody’s sake.


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Re: Trailer tires [Re: dfsmopars] #2474041
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No reason needed...Only suspicion...And believe me if you do get pulled over you'll be getting more than a tire violation to make it worth their time...They always find something else...

Re: Trailer tires [Re: GOLDMYN] #2474049
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Truck tires are better than trailer tires. It seems stoopid that the law would bust you for having better tires on your trailer.


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Re: Trailer tires [Re: dfsmopars] #2474110
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Originally Posted By dfsmopars
That’s important information. I would have to think trailers are easy pickin’s for DOT. It’s not like a person pulling one is inconspicuous. Can they just pull you over and check the trailer equipment or does there have to be a reason first?
It is important we all pull safely for everybody’s sake.
YOU exist,thats reason enough.

Re: Trailer tires [Re: not_a_charger] #2474114
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Originally Posted By not_a_charger
It's totally incorrect information, but I wanted to offer an explanation as to why what he was specifically told, and by whom, was incorrect.


It was on a trailer forum many years back that one owner got in a accident caused by a blowout, which damaged trailer and tow vehicle and was using incorrect tires based on the tire label on the trailer. I can't recall if in the end they settled, but I know he was harassed by the insurance company for not having the tire spec listed by the manufacturer and I believe the DOT for the state he was in.

As I followed up with, I could be wrong on the above, as this was one of he many stories in the many heated threads they have on these forums about tires. Much like "which oil is best" on the car forums. The topic is covered regularly and opinions vary.

Re: Trailer tires [Re: GOLDMYN] #2474139
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Interesting & helpful thread. My open trailer's had Michelins on it forever, 14" to keep the trailer low, definitely not trailer tires but originally for small RVs. Been through several states and never a look-see from any authority.
They've been bulletproof, even carrying 4500 lbs.
I've been very lucky, as even though the trailer leads a very pampered life (heated garage, never out unless working), the tires are (gulp) from the late '90s. Two years ago I took it to NorCal & back on a banzai run.
I've cheated disaster long enough, so even though the tires still look mint, it's not going anywhere until it gets new rubber.

Re: Trailer tires [Re: topside] #2474193
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LT tires explained and they can be used on trailers IF used as designated below. Notice the size of the tire though.

LT = If a tire size begins with "LT," it signifies the tire is a "Light Truck-metric" size that was designed to be used on vehicles that are capable of carrying heavy cargo or towing large trailers. This includes medium and heavy-duty (typically 3/4- and 1-ton load capacity) pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles and full-size vans. Tires branded with the "LT" designation are the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.
7.50R16LT 112/107Q, 8.75R16.5LT 104/100Q or 31x10.50R15LT 109Q

LT = If a tire ends with "LT," it signifies the tire is either an earlier "Numeric", "Wide Base" or "Flotation" Light Truck size designed to be used on vehicles that are capable of carrying heavy cargo and towing trailers (Numeric sizes), use 16.5-inch diameter rims (Wide Base sizes) or are wider, over sized tires designed to help the vehicle drive on top of loose dirt or sandy surfaces (Flotation sizes). This includes light, medium and heavy duty (typically 1/2-, 3/4 and 1-ton load capacity) pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles. Tires branded with the "LT" at the end of their size designation are also the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.
195/70R15C 104/102R

Re: Trailer tires [Re: njmopar] #2474242
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Originally Posted By njmopar
Originally Posted By not_a_charger
It's totally incorrect information, but I wanted to offer an explanation as to why what he was specifically told, and by whom, was incorrect.


It was on a trailer forum many years back that one owner got in a accident caused by a blowout, which damaged trailer and tow vehicle and was using incorrect tires based on the tire label on the trailer. I can't recall if in the end they settled, but I know he was harassed by the insurance company for not having the tire spec listed by the manufacturer and I believe the DOT for the state he was in.

As I followed up with, I could be wrong on the above, as this was one of he many stories in the many heated threads they have on these forums about tires. Much like "which oil is best" on the car forums. The topic is covered regularly and opinions vary.


Thanks for the explanation. I'd be willing to bet that on that forum, much like on Moparts, 95% of what is posted regarding insurance is wrong, and what's worse, the incorrect info is usually posted as a statement of absolute fact. Your post was the rare exception.


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Re: Trailer tires [Re: GOLDMYN] #2474256
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I had many issues with Carlisle and Marathons, now I have the New Goodyear Endurance - no issues yet! KOW! I was told they are made in the states.

Re: Trailer tires [Re: Bull1tt] #2474302
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Originally Posted By Bull1tt
If you have LT tires on a trailer in PA, it won’t pass inspection


I just spent 20 minutes trying to find the exact PA law prohibiting LT tires on trailers. And I can't find one. This was the passage concerning trailers and there is no mention of trailer rating required. If you follow the references, there is no mention of trailer rating requirements either. shruggy

http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/DVSPub...SubchapterG.pdf


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Re: Trailer tires [Re: 4mopower] #2474307
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Originally Posted By 4mopower
I had many issues with Carlisle and Marathons, now I have the New Goodyear Endurance - no issues yet! KOW! I was told they are made in the states.
I have yet to hear anything bad about these tires, however they have not been out a real long time.

I am pretty sure if you get them from Discount Tire you can get the same optional warranty that is available on car and truck tires.

Re: Trailer tires [Re: 6PakBee] #2474345
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Originally Posted By 6PakBee
Originally Posted By Bull1tt
If you have LT tires on a trailer in PA, it won’t pass inspection


I just spent 20 minutes trying to find the exact PA law prohibiting LT tires on trailers. And I can't find one. This was the passage concerning trailers and there is no mention of trailer rating required. If you follow the references, there is no mention of trailer rating requirements either. shruggy

http://www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/DVSPub...SubchapterG.pdf


this is why, when there "may" be questions arising from an anticipated "stop", a copy of the exact "law in question", plus any applicable references, should be carried at all times. you may, however, be cited for other infractions "just because". [and there is ALWAYS something......] biggrin
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Re: Trailer tires [Re: 68Cbarge] #2474371
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Originally Posted By 68Cbarge
The Goodyear Marathon is going the same way as the do-do bird.
In its place is the Goodyear Endurance 20575R15 load range D (8 Ply)
Product # 724861519.
A new tread design help tire to remain cool while towing heavy loads.
A big improvement over the old Marathon with beefier sidewall construction.
Better inner liners minimizes air loss in trailer applications because of 100% halobutyl rubber.
Hope this helps


And made in USA


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Re: Trailer tires [Re: max_maniac] #2474377
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Originally Posted By max_maniac
LT tires explained and they can be used on trailers IF used as designated below. Notice the size of the tire though.

LT = If a tire size begins with "LT," it signifies the tire is a "Light Truck-metric" size that was designed to be used on vehicles that are capable of carrying heavy cargo or towing large trailers. This includes medium and heavy-duty (typically 3/4- and 1-ton load capacity) pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles and full-size vans. Tires branded with the "LT" designation are the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.
7.50R16LT 112/107Q, 8.75R16.5LT 104/100Q or 31x10.50R15LT 109Q

LT = If a tire ends with "LT," it signifies the tire is either an earlier "Numeric", "Wide Base" or "Flotation" Light Truck size designed to be used on vehicles that are capable of carrying heavy cargo and towing trailers (Numeric sizes), use 16.5-inch diameter rims (Wide Base sizes) or are wider, over sized tires designed to help the vehicle drive on top of loose dirt or sandy surfaces (Flotation sizes). This includes light, medium and heavy duty (typically 1/2-, 3/4 and 1-ton load capacity) pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles. Tires branded with the "LT" at the end of their size designation are also the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.
195/70R15C 104/102R


That says vehicles towing trailers, not trailers, BTW.


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Re: Trailer tires [Re: GOLDMYN] #2474381
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Anything without a UTQG, is a gamble on an enclosed trailer. (You'll be amazed how many LT and ST tires don't have ANY declared specifications). If they sit, bite the bullet, and replace every 3 years. I got this from a racer that tows ALOT. Load range G, and 17's are the ultimate $olution.

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Originally Posted By 300rag
Originally Posted By max_maniac
LT tires explained and they can be used on trailers IF used as designated below. Notice the size of the tire though.

LT = If a tire size begins with "LT," it signifies the tire is a "Light Truck-metric" size that was designed to be used on vehicles that are capable of carrying heavy cargo or towing large trailers. This includes medium and heavy-duty (typically 3/4- and 1-ton load capacity) pickup trucks, sport utility vehicles and full-size vans. Tires branded with the "LT" designation are the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.
7.50R16LT 112/107Q, 8.75R16.5LT 104/100Q or 31x10.50R15LT 109Q

LT = If a tire ends with "LT," it signifies the tire is either an earlier "Numeric", "Wide Base" or "Flotation" Light Truck size designed to be used on vehicles that are capable of carrying heavy cargo and towing trailers (Numeric sizes), use 16.5-inch diameter rims (Wide Base sizes) or are wider, over sized tires designed to help the vehicle drive on top of loose dirt or sandy surfaces (Flotation sizes). This includes light, medium and heavy duty (typically 1/2-, 3/4 and 1-ton load capacity) pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles. Tires branded with the "LT" at the end of their size designation are also the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.
195/70R15C 104/102R


That says vehicles towing trailers, not trailers, BTW.



and I read it this way - to include trailers like in tractor trailers so.

Tires branded with the "LT" at the end of their size designation are also the "little brothers" of 18-wheel tractor-trailer tires and are designed to provide substantial reserve capacity to accept the additional stresses of carrying heavy cargo.

Re: Trailer tires [Re: Silver70] #2474706
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Originally Posted By Silver70
Originally Posted By njmopar
Sounds liked you made your choice. Hopefully better the these made in USA Marathons. I bet the new models are made in China.
So glad it blew after I crossed the Rockies and not during.
Just under 5 years old and proper tire pressure since I use TPMS.


From my experiences, if you got near 5 years on trailer tires, you did good. I pretty much end up getting new ones every 3 years, if they last that long.


Agree, four years max on trailer tires no matter how good they look.

Re: Trailer tires [Re: Dabee] #2474870
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I agree with the tire change interval. I have had so many friends have trailer tire failures in recent years.
Not the proper way, but I change out one tire every year. Every 4 years they will have all been replaced. I haven't had a tire failure yet with my trailers in 15 years of doing this.
I have to mention this though. I had a 1976 holiday trailer in the early 2000's. The tires looked like they were original G78's, and they were pretty much bald. I took that trailer down many gravel roads. I even had an axle break at the leaf spring, where the tire was leaning into the frame for a few miles. NEVER had a tire failure.
Just a testament of the quality of tires these days or perhaps I was just lucky?

Re: Trailer tires [Re: GOLDMYN] #2475051
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Thanks for the question and answers. Gonna go get four Endurance’s before camping season.


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