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scotts67 - i really like the color, blue is my favorite color, nice work. nice job too stuff215, that looks killer. i did try a long time ago with one of those wagner spray guns, about 3 yrs ago and i went with the top of the line one, and i was'nt too thrilled with it, you still get the mess, smell and battle dust/dirt/hair. the one issue i had with that gun was keeping it consistent, i would spray globs after i'm done like painting 1/2 of the car, and then i'd have to stop, clean the gun, and continue, and leave that pannel to dry and fis the globs/runs that it left behind. when it did work it worked great, but it left more work to fix it when it started spitting. i exchanged it for another one, it did the same thing, then i returned it and continued with the roller. the one thing about using the roller, is that after you get the hang of it, and can apply smooth thin coats, it's a walk in the park. it is soo easy to do with the roller, no mess, no fuss, you can really accurately cut in the hood, have a break, to the fender, take another break, and continue on, and not have a gun to clean, all the over spray, tape up the whole car, ect....allthough i did notice spraying the paint with a hvlp gun did result in very little overspray when compared to the single stage auto paints i've sprayed, that basically gets paint on everything your own, and your picking snoot out of your nose for weeks colored in the paint you sprayed with!!! and that's even with a resperator!!. i'll stick with the roller, if you get the hang of the roller, you'll know what i mean, best is to practice on anything, old hood is the best, and prefect the tequnique, and thinning of the paint. but it's a skill, either you have it or you don't, it's like playing a insturment, to some people it comes naturally, some can't play anything no matter how hard they try.    
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Looks good there. Yes according to the tremclad page 27009 Medium Blue is definatly brighter than royal Blue 7727
It looks more like rustoleums' 7524 Safety Blue and mayber brighter.
Tho the blue is looking great on all the cars that chose it. It's reinforcing my decision to paint it blue. Royal Blue-
I will pick up a quart today and see for myself. I do hope it comes out the same color as scotts...
I will post pics very soon as I continue to sand my car down with 400. And the test peice... a set of JDM power folding mirrors for my Lucino conversion. (aka turning a sentra into it's japan counter part)
If this method works well for me I will be re-painting my fastback. =)
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That test piece sounds like you will get practice in polishing and sanding, but with something as small as mirrors, the technique to apply thin coats to a flat surface is not really going to be practiced (unless you are just seeing how the color looks?).
With something that small, try getting the roller nearly empty or the roller will hit one of the edges/contours and dump a lot of paint in that one spot.
Best piece is a large flat panel, either a hood or preferably something you can put so the surface is perpendicular to the ground (i.e., not laying flat) as the sides of a car are where runs occur if the technique isn't right.
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How much should I thin the paint? LIke how much to cut it down with? 50/50 mix or 90/10? And does each batch of thinning make a diff? should the thinning be measured so I can duplicate it each time?
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I see. Besides wanting to see how it would look as far as color I wanted to see how it would polish out. I do know that it would be easier to paint a non-daily driven car as yours when it comes to stripping and such. But I dont have that possibility.
I have to tackle it outside. For the mean time however should I take out the fender to paint first instead of the mirrors? Or perhaps even the front bumper?
thanks for your suggestions Exit. How's everything on your end?
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How much should I thin the paint? LIke how much to cut it down with? 50/50 mix or 90/10? And does each batch of thinning make a diff? should the thinning be measured so I can duplicate it each time?
You'll just want to mix it until it flows really easily, something like regular milk, maybe a tad thicker. After a few times you'll know what works right, what goes on smooth with minimal bubbles and does not run. Start with maybe 30 percent I would guess.. (?)
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More on the sanding and applying Clearcoat. I had a quick chance to do a test on the rear panel of my car today. (it was quick) but the results were nice. took and wetsanded what is the 6th coat and wiped down. I had on old can of Trem Clear and gave it 2 quick sprays. This is definatly they way I'm going to go after my last coat. Got to get some Clear in a 1L can. I could prob do the whole car with 4 spray cans of clear as well.
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here is the pic after second shot of clear. The stuff drys real fast as well little bugs had no time to get stuck as it dryed before they had time to find the sprayed spot.
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ok .. so heres the million dollar question.. i have a pontiac fiero and well as some of you guys may or may not know, the body is plastic. its really starting to become faded and i want to get it painted badly. i like the idea you guys have, the only problem i have with it... will it work on plastic... metal i would have no problem, but my car is all plastic, gotta love pontiac. pieces are super easy to take off.. all the body panels come off seperatly. which makes it so much easier for painting, but the problem i run into is i dont know if it will work on plastic.... anyone done it or tried it??? (below is a picture of what the car looks like roughly, not my car though.)(sorry for spelling errors)  i would liek to get a shiny look to it.. almost liek a candy... liek this.. 
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Well, I've started the prep work, but have one last question. People have said (after sanding, prep work I mean) that it feels like glass, is that the basic kind of feel I'm going for after doing the prep sanding?
Just to give a descriptive idea of what it actually looks like, his hatch was red, no fading on it, now when I sanded down the hood with 150 grit its pretty much a dusty white with some red, not much though and does feel really smooth like glass after wiping it down.
Thats what I should be aiming for correct?
And we are taking pictures of our project, so once we actually get to the painting, will post some pictures and any tips or errors we run into.
Thanks, Matt.
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Well, I've started the prep work, but have one last question. People have said (after sanding, prep work I mean) that it feels like glass, is that the basic kind of feel I'm going for after doing the prep sanding?
Just to give a descriptive idea of what it actually looks like, his hatch was red, no fading on it, now when I sanded down the hood with 150 grit its pretty much a dusty white with some red, not much though and does feel really smooth like glass after wiping it down.
Thats what I should be aiming for correct?
And we are taking pictures of our project, so once we actually get to the painting, will post some pictures and any tips or errors we run into.
Thanks, Matt.
wat they mean by "glass" is when u appl ur first coat of paint, it will be this glossy thin layer of paint that will be see through. when u prep the car make sure u wash the car down then dry it wiht lint free cloth then get some sort of wax/grease remover and go over the whole car or ur paint area then start the paint process.
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alright so you guys got me hooked.. i really wanna do this now.. so heres the del i got an extra door skin lying around so ill try it on tat and if all goes well ill do the car. approximately how long is it(its kinda my daily driver and my baby, jsut got the collector plates for it).. and if you could, can you do a step by step process. ive never painted a whole car, just a few simple parts. seeing as my panels are removable, i will prolly take them off and paint them seperatly. but if someon could do a step by step procces, tell me everythign i need, and were in the usa i can possibly get the supplies i will be all ready to go.. thanks matt  ps u guys rule
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alright so you guys got me hooked.. i really wanna do this now.. so heres the del i got an extra door skin lying around so ill try it on tat and if all goes well ill do the car. approximately how long is it(its kinda my daily driver and my baby, jsut got the collector plates for it).. and if you could, can you do a step by step process. ive never painted a whole car, just a few simple parts. seeing as my panels are removable, i will prolly take them off and paint them seperatly. but if someon could do a step by step procces, tell me everythign i need, and were in the usa i can possibly get the supplies i will be all ready to go..
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its all in the forums. i think the mods need to sticky a thread for the process or have an FAQ section LoL.
basically prep ur car, fix dings (if u konw how) and remove rust by sanding the car with a da 80grit. then go over with 120 then maybe something high like 400 range. so its a nice and smooth then tape off ur car, thin the paint until like water or some ppl are doing 30% mineral sprit and the rest paint, then paint it on using thin coats...verry thin, first few coats u'll be able to see through the paint. until about the 4th or 5th coat it'll start to hide and dont forget to wetsand between every 2 coats. once painted the desired amount of coats let the paint dry/cure for a day or 2 then u can either wax or let it dry for longer then spray on gloss clear coat then wax that.
im sure u konw wat supplies to use? if not i encourage u to read all 44 plus pages :P so u konw wat everyone did and wat u could do to make it work for u. u can spray it or roll it. process will take a few days to a week.
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alright so you guys got me hooked.. i really wanna do this now.. so heres the del i got an extra door skin lying around so ill try it on tat and if all goes well ill do the car. approximately how long is it(its kinda my daily driver and my baby, jsut got the collector plates for it).. and if you could, can you do a step by step process. ive never painted a whole car, just a few simple parts. seeing as my panels are removable, i will prolly take them off and paint them seperatly. but if someon could do a step by step procces, tell me everythign i need, and were in the usa i can possibly get the supplies i will be all ready to go..
thanks
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