Re: Engine oil
[Re: BradH]
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02/14/18 06:29 PM
02/14/18 06:29 PM
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"Little"John
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I think my message would be oil is not oil. Looks to me that some has more additives than others and pass testing with higher marks as well. My message is that the majority of oil discussions on here turn into big stinkin' piles of opinions without any empirical data to back them up. Oil, religion, politics... possibly The Big Three of things which can never be discussed objectively. I'll wait and see where this goes before I decide step back in here again. What the heck do you want for proof Brad. You know the guys that race and the guys that don’t.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/14/18 06:35 PM
02/14/18 06:35 PM
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Spaceman Spiff
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I think my message would be oil is not oil. Looks to me that some has more additives than others and pass testing with higher marks as well. My message is that the majority of oil discussions on here turn into big stinkin' piles of opinions without any empirical data to back them up. Oil, religion, politics... possibly The Big Three of things which can never be discussed objectively. I'll wait and see where this goes before I decide step back in here again. What the heck do you want for proof Brad. You know the guys that race and the guys that don’t. Some people swear by brad penn... I know of at least three people using it, where the cams went flat. What works great for some, will not work great for all.
526 cubes of angry wedge, pushbutton shifted, 9 passenger killer!
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/14/18 06:55 PM
02/14/18 06:55 PM
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BradH
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Taking time off to work on my car
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Val-haul-ass... eventually
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What the heck do you want for proof Brad. You know the guys that race and the guys that don’t. You should know as well as anyone that just because someone races doesn't mean they know squat about oil... or carb tuning... or engine maintenance... or ... well, you get my point. I'd be more interested in hearing from engine builders than engine abusers on a subject like this.
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: 62SAVOY]
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02/14/18 07:29 PM
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markz528
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I moved on to Driven (Joe Gibbs) oil. Lost 2 hydraulic flat tapped cams with Valvoline VR-1.
67 Coronet 500 9.610 @ 139.20 mph 67 Coronet 500 (street car) 14.82 @ 94 mph 69 GTX (clone) - build in progress......
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: 62SAVOY]
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02/14/18 08:31 PM
02/14/18 08:31 PM
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Jacob Pitt
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No offence to anyone but if you have to put a additive in your oil it's not the right oil.
2013 NHRA D4 Stock Champ #4 in the World IHRA Stock 2x IHRA Div.4 Stock Champ 14x Track Champ All using a Ultimate Converter Concepts converter. Call Lenny today 704-892-6837
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: WedgeFED]
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02/14/18 10:10 PM
02/14/18 10:10 PM
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DaveRS23
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Well, I was about to move to the 10w30 VR-1 until I read that. Guess I'll stay with the 20w50 that I have been running for years. Is this a case of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'?
Master, again and still
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: 62SAVOY]
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02/14/18 10:23 PM
02/14/18 10:23 PM
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lockjaw-express
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I have been using 20w-50 VR-1 and a small bottle of ZDDP+ that I buy on ebay on every oil change on my 440 solid flat trappet cam engine, and just VR1 20W-50 in my Hemi with a roller cam.
I guess I will continue to use that unless, someone tells me of something better?
Mark
Last edited by lockjaw-express; 02/15/18 12:49 AM.
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: Jacob Pitt]
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02/14/18 11:17 PM
02/14/18 11:17 PM
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No offence to anyone but if you have to put a additive in your oil it's not the right oil. I look at it this way. I build all my own engines and have for many many years. I have also been a Brad Penn (Kendal) user for those same 40 plus years. Oil as we know it has changed over the years and so has the quality of the metals used in our cams and lifters. Now throw into the mix I run alcohol and we all know the issues with that. (water moisture). Now with the 650 lift solid lifter cam and higher spring pressures that I run adding a bottle of additive and EDM lifters is cheap insurance. I have no issues running my engine for 3 years between engine freshen jobs. Wrong oil? I don't think so but what do I know. Hopefully when I freshen my small block next time I will grind my R3 block so I can run roller lifters and I will sleep even better at night.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: 62SAVOY]
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02/14/18 11:51 PM
02/14/18 11:51 PM
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NTOLERANCE
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What oil should i run?
Clean oil.
I used to care but....... things have changed
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: NTOLERANCE]
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02/15/18 12:18 AM
02/15/18 12:18 AM
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WHITEDART
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What oil should i run?
Clean oil.
by the looks of the car on your post I would say clean oil would not be necessary
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: Engine oil
[Re: '72CudaRacer]
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02/15/18 12:47 AM
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Cab_Burge
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Schaeffers make some excellent gear lube for transfer cases and drag race rear ends The only problem I know of with the drag race gear oil it is 250 Wt. Which means you need run the car on jack stands for 2 to 5 minutes to warm it up before pulling into the lanes to race My Son in Law use to work for a ski resort in SO CA maintaining all their track vehicles, they used Shaeffer brand lubes only in all of their vehicles from the general managers SUV to all the big snow cats, he was amazed that none of their lubes would not mix with the water(from condensation) in the snow cat transfer cases or engine oil, the water would drain out first and then the oil or lube would follow I wish I knew of a west coast distributor that I could buy their products from up here in central Oregon
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Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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