Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
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02/09/18 04:04 PM
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We are ordering a hellcat engine for the Charger in a couple weeks. Just getting other stuff lined up too.
Appears magnum force is pretty backup on there suspension parts. 8weeks from what I hear.
But my main question is the trans option. I am new to these conversions so what is our trans option.
Are people really paying $8K for a 6 speed trans!! I know this is not a cheap project but was hoping the trans option was going to be a little more reasonable.. Thanks for any help.
Last edited by mymcodebee; 02/09/18 04:05 PM.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: mymcodebee]
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T-56 is about the only thing that will hold up, the TKO 600 needs some help Liberty Gear magnum XL 6060 (t56 for some of the old timers) starts @ 3550 Rockland Gear T-56/Tranzilla Magnum , not sure what price they are now, the last one I bought was bought for 2016 Hellcat that burned down( fire sale I guess you could call it) paid $1600 for it.
as for 8k, for a trans, if that's what they'll pay then yeah, I know I won't pay that much , hit Ebay there's always a T-56 or Magnum in the 2-3k price range
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: WO23Coronet]
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02/10/18 02:20 AM
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Would the Passon 855 be an option? I think it has a pretty high rating Should work, there are 833s behind Gen3s out there. Just better not be in a hurry to get it...
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: mymcodebee]
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I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: Silver70]
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I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch. That works if you know where the trans came from. I didn’t want a used supercar transmission that could have had slicks and plenty of clutch dumping. I know what I’m working with by using a brand new trans.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
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I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch. That works if you know where the trans came from. I didn’t want a used supercar transmission that could have had slicks and plenty of clutch dumping. I know what I’m working with by using a brand new trans. With that logic, then why didn't you buy a new mopar built crate hemi? I can have this viper t56 built up and still have less into it than a new t56 magnum. Same way I go about engines... rather build my own and know what I have exactly.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: Silver70]
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02/11/18 10:12 PM
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I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch. That works if you know where the trans came from. I didn’t want a used supercar transmission that could have had slicks and plenty of clutch dumping. I know what I’m working with by using a brand new trans. With that logic, then why didn't you buy a new mopar built crate hemi? I can have this viper t56 built up and still have less into it than a new t56 magnum. Same way I go about engines... rather build my own and know what I have exactly. The reman 5.7L Hemi was free, it was merely disassembled for a time study. So no, I didn't buy a new crate to replace a reman engine with 0 miles on it, but I appreciate your concern.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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I picked up a viper t56 for project. Rated to 650trq, the new t56 magnums are rated to 700. But for what I paid, I could buy 3 new magnums. They are actually good for a lot more power as long as your not running slicks and dumping the clutch. That works if you know where the trans came from. I didn’t want a used supercar transmission that could have had slicks and plenty of clutch dumping. I know what I’m working with by using a brand new trans. With that logic, then why didn't you buy a new mopar built crate hemi? I can have this viper t56 built up and still have less into it than a new t56 magnum. Same way I go about engines... rather build my own and know what I have exactly. The reman 5.7L Hemi was free, it was merely disassembled for a time study. So no, I didn't buy a new crate to replace a reman engine with 0 miles on it, but I appreciate your concern. So you paid 3k plus for a trans that will handle twice the power your reman hemi makes? Guess if you get things for free then might as well blow $ on other things you don't really need. Some of us actual pay for our own parts.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: Silver70]
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02/12/18 04:57 AM
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So you'd rebuild the first one if it went out... Why not just buy another new one instead? Isn't that contradicting everything you just said? I did mention buying a second new trans. The T56 Magnum currently in my car was brand new and I put all of the miles on it so I know its exact history. Will rebuild it with all new parts as well when the time comes and keep it as a spare. Totally different from buying a used trans from someone else. Hell, I'll probably do the same thing with my engine, buy another brand new 426 aluminum crate and rebuild the current to keep around ready to go when needed.
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Re: Trans option for manual Hellcat conversion?
[Re: RylisPro]
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The T56 Magnum currently in my car was brand new and I put all of the miles on it so I know its exact history. Will rebuild it with all new parts as well when the time comes and keep it as a spare. Totally different from buying a used trans from someone else. Hell, I'll probably do the same thing with my engine, buy another brand new 426 aluminum crate and rebuild the current to keep around ready to go when needed. Whats the difference if you buy a used one and put all new parts in even if it was owned by someone else. What does the history have to do with it if your replacing everything... Used is used!
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