Re: New Rotisserie and Plymouth frame cut for Dakota sub-frame.
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05/09/18 11:27 AM
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I was having trouble with my vertical welds and asked Gene for advice which he kindly offered, not perfect (never is) but they are getting better, thanks Gene. Once I had the two pieces located I did not want to move them until securely attached which meant working at floor level. I have to say that it took a major toll on a 74 year old body that also can't see all that well, but a least I'm still doing it. Unfinished start of repair.
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Re: New Rotisserie and Plymouth frame cut for Dakota sub-frame.
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05/17/18 10:48 PM
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Dakota sub-frame to '56 plymouth frame splice with paint. Took much longer then expected (of course), welds not close to perfect but will do, rolling on the floor not easy for this old turd. Question: Do you think two coats of paint will make for a stronger join ? , Yes! Two coats of paint will keep the rust at bay better then one coat of paint (and it looks better too), and one coat of paint is much better then no paint (unless you paint like I do). Gene
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Re: New Rotisserie and Plymouth frame cut for Dakota sub-frame.
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06/18/18 08:43 PM
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Why run a steady bearing? Why not just a one piece driveshaft? How long is the overall length?
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Re: New Rotisserie and Plymouth frame cut for Dakota sub-frame.
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06/18/18 11:42 PM
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Do you mean that the internet is wrong (or maybe I read it wrong) Can I use what I got if it doesn't vibrate too much? (not much chance of that.) THANKS or all your input, I appreciate it, and just trying something new and different was kind of fun. Might just use the car as a tug around the yard, should be OK for that. PS: Gene, you never told me that the engine in a Dakota is offset from the factory to the pass side? Double PS: Please keep in mind that I live in "resume speed" Canada and parts are not readily available locally.
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Re: New Rotisserie and Plymouth frame cut for Dakota sub-frame.
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06/19/18 10:02 PM
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Yes, you can use the driveshaft you have.
Sorry, nearly all the modern era factory Mopar motors are offset to the right, as you are sitting in the car/truck, guess I never gave it any thought that others might not know that. Now someone is probably going to tell us the right had drive motors are offset to the left. The offset was originally for steering column clearance. Probably started when the V8 first showed up.
If you really look and start measuring, that Dakota crossmember under the motor is not centered between the frame rails either, it is also offset a couple inches towards the passenger side! It really becomes apparent when you try to center the front frame horns, one will be longer then the other, and at a different angle. The new frame horns and the Dakota's original frame and crossmember on my 39 pickup all looks pretty goofy hanging out where everyone might see them, good thing the grill shell and my hand made lower grill piece is hiding most of it. I'm trying to go fenderless with this pickup, fenders would have made things a lot easier, too bed the fenders I have are so rough. Gene
AH, what fun would it be if everything was easy? Yea, I know what your thinking, "It would be nice if at least some of the stuff was easy." I think "cheap", "easy", and "cars" are all mutually exclusive terms. They just don't fit together well. Gene
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Re: New Rotisserie and Plymouth frame cut for Dakota sub-frame.
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06/19/18 11:55 PM
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The offset was originally for steering column clearance. It still is, .......because I'm using the Dakota front frame and engine more or less in the original location I can see where the offset is required for clearance for the steering shaft to the rack. Thanks for your help and assistance.
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Re: New Rotisserie and Plymouth frame cut for Dakota sub-frame.
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So the plan was to use the gas tank out of the running Dakota donor but the tank was too wide to go in between the frame rails. A couple of days (or more) surfing the net looking for a tank that would take the Dakota fuel pump as it use a return line type of fuel injection (the limit of my knowledge). It use's a big dumb round nut to hold the pump in and I could never find a definitive answer just hints, that a Jeep Wrangler - YJ from 1987 to 1995 had the same nut. Both kind of Mopar-ish though and the dimensions were workable. Found a couple of used tanks on EBay but no one would ship to Canada, until a new listing said they would, ....by ......(WAIT FOR IT) ......United states postal service! Built brackets and mounted the tank (took a week) and removed the Dakota pump, it is too tall, so now what? The OEM Jeep pump (would have to buy) has no return line so major re-plumbing would be required, so I disassembled the Dakota pump, the two haves of the pump bracket slide up and down from the factory (wonder why?). So I re-drilled the screw holes and shortened the pump casing. Will it work, who knows, but it fits the tank now. All of this took a lot longer then I can begin to tell you, a week ago I couldn't even spell fuel injection and now I am taking the pump apart, nuts. The shortened pump and the jeep tank. ,
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Re: New Rotisserie and Plymouth frame cut for Dakota sub-frame.
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07/25/18 07:33 PM
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So, I wanted to use some wheels off a Mark 7 LSC on my plymouth wagon but the rear ones were in pretty bad shape. Couple of years ago I saw a ad on Kijiji for a guy doing powder coating so i sent him a email and some pictures and asked if he could fix them. He came back with, ………………………...quote: “Those are turds”. I knew that, and that was why I was asking him, ….so much for customer service. I got around to looking closer at them and it was the clear coat that was blistering. I sanded it off and used some paint remover, so what do you think of my turds now? Before and after. ,
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