Starter cable gage needed
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02/06/18 06:41 PM
02/06/18 06:41 PM
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mopar dave
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Im using CSR starter on my 511. Had trouble with it disengaging and engaging while rolling engine over. I want to replace the starter cable which runs from cut off switch to starter. Currently have 6 gage cable, want something larger. CSR says i need 00 gage. Do i really need that huge cable? Gonna change out the battery as well.
Last edited by mopar dave; 02/06/18 06:42 PM.
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Re: Starter cable gage needed
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02/06/18 07:23 PM
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I use 2ga on everything for the main cable. Master switch to a junction in the firewall area. Distributed from there to starter relay, switch panel, etc. Good 2ga, fine strand welding cable. Big motors, high compression, whatever. Lighter, easier to work with. Never a problem. Never an issue st the track. All the chassis guys - Bickel, RJ - sell the same thing for their stuff. Don't use a junk starter.
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Re: Starter cable gage needed
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02/06/18 09:44 PM
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Your cable is most definitely too small. I used 00 welding cable when I mounting the battery in the trunk.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Starter cable gage needed
[Re: mopar dave]
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02/06/18 10:01 PM
02/06/18 10:01 PM
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It might be 4gage. Bought 20yrs ago from summit in a battery relocate kit. Does look vety big. I have 2gage on ground side to engine block. Some of those kits had aluminum wire in them. Also, the strands were fairly big. IIRC there were only 6-8 strands of wire in the cable. I had something similar and fought starting issues. The 00 welding cable solved that.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Starter cable gage needed
[Re: mopar dave]
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02/06/18 10:16 PM
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Are you saying the csr starters are no good? I used same starter on my small and never an issue. It only disengages while starting hot, never cold. I don't know. Never used one. I was just making a general statement - starters are not all the same and they wear out. If it's acting like your OP description, I would suspect something is wrong with it.
Last edited by CMcAllister; 02/06/18 10:18 PM.
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Re: Starter cable gage needed
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02/07/18 12:28 PM
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I have a suggestion, why don't you gather some data and determine what is wrong before you start replacing things? you can do a simple (and I mean simple!) voltage drop test and know which components need to be fixed. I helped a guy out that had changed his battery, cables and starter. After changing it all out his car still started poorly. took me about 3 mins to find he was dropping 2.2 volts thur his main battery cutoff and another .5 volt from his ground. If you don't know where your voltage loss is occurring you are guessing. try it! you will be surprised how easy it is. (see my sig) https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...tml#Post2342153Joe
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Re: Starter cable gage needed
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02/07/18 05:34 PM
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What is the rating of the master switch? Does it have copper or silver contacts? How old is it? What is the voltage drop across the contacts under a high load? I have fixed multiple electrical issues by changing out old or cheap switches.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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