Re: United Nostalgia Stock Superstock
[Re: Dads426]
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I think we're talking 2 different deals here. N/SS and bracket racing with pre 1975 cars. There is a unified set of rules. Not everyone chooses to use them. N/SS has been around since the early 90's with very few rule changes. Yes there are restrictions. This is the same for any class. Some say update the rules. Sure it could be done. Look at Pro-Stock and NASCAR. I personally don't want to see N/SS go this route. Yes I chose to find a 50 year old car, repair rust, fabricate vintage appearing seats, spend $$$ to build a dinosaur motor, hone my skills on a foot brake, and learn to run index with no electronics. I have no problem seeing vintage drag racing. But trans brake 1975 Nova's, Fox body Mustangs, 1975 Newport's back halved running any size rear slick using trans brakes, swapping dial's every round isn't what this class is about. I hope this series does well. I just don't see it as N/SS. My 2 cents. Doug
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Re: United Nostalgia Stock Superstock
[Re: dvw]
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02/05/18 02:49 AM
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whole idea of NSS racing was to preserve the cars that raced in the 60's the orginal intent was full sized cars, 2 four barrels, 10.5 tires, stock frame rails, foot brake, it is bracket racing in the fact that you pick an index, but you pick one for the event, and it is quarter or half seconds, no dials between rounds. I am sorry but gen III hemis, are not nostalgia super stock racing. Nothing against any car or anybody who races, but changing the NSS rules makes it just another bracket race, that no spectators come to watch. Most of the guys who got together to start the NSS class, were tired of racing brackets with hundreds of cars. If you have raced with the orginal groups, smaller events, decent payouts, lots of close racing, and a better bunch of guys you could not ask for. Plus we eat and drink at a competitive level as well.
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Re: United Nostalgia Stock Superstock
[Re: jwb123]
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02/05/18 03:34 AM
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I think we're talking 2 different deals here. N/SS and bracket racing with pre 1975 cars. There is a unified set of rules. Not everyone chooses to use them. N/SS has been around since the early 90's with very few rule changes. Yes there are restrictions. This is the same for any class. Some say update the rules. Sure it could be done. Look at Pro-Stock and NASCAR. I personally don't want to see N/SS go this route. Yes I chose to find a 50 year old car, repair rust, fabricate vintage appearing seats, spend $$$ to build a dinosaur motor, hone my skills on a foot brake, and learn to run index with no electronics. I have no problem seeing vintage drag racing. But trans brake 1975 Nova's, Fox body Mustangs, 1975 Newport's back halved running any size rear slick using trans brakes, swapping dial's every round isn't what this class is about. I hope this series does well. I just don't see it as N/SS. My 2 cents. Doug
Nostalgia is just that Nostalgia. What qualifies as Nostalgia will change and evolve with the times and Generations. I'm 49 years old, I have been blessed to have taken over my fathers 65 Hemi Dodge. I hope I'm blessed enough to have a class to race it in for another 15 to 20 years. But as of right now, Gen III Hemi's and LS are not Nostalgia, even it it's in a 50 year old car.. .That would be Resto-Mod Super Stock.
whole idea of NSS racing was to preserve the cars that raced in the 60's the orginal intent was full sized cars, 2 four barrels, 10.5 tires, stock frame rails, foot brake, it is bracket racing in the fact that you pick an index, but you pick one for the event, and it is quarter or half seconds, no dials between rounds. I am sorry but gen III hemis, are not nostalgia super stock racing. Nothing against any car or anybody who races, but changing the NSS rules makes it just another bracket race, that no spectators come to watch. Most of the guys who got together to start the NSS class, were tired of racing brackets with hundreds of cars. If you have raced with the orginal groups, smaller events, decent payouts, lots of close racing, and a better bunch of guys you could not ask for. Plus we eat and drink at a competitive level as well
All of the above is correct for a TRUE NSS Class. The NMCA rules are probably the best out there to follow. All you have to do is look at what NSS means and that does not include all cars, makes, engine combinations or you do just turn it into a bracket race for any year car???
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Re: United Nostalgia Stock Superstock
[Re: Dads426]
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02/05/18 05:00 AM
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calrobb2000
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hi gen 3 powered fine if they are put in a modified production class !
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Re: United Nostalgia Stock Superstock
[Re: B G Racing]
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02/05/18 12:50 PM
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The major problem with most all of the nostalgia ss/races is that there are too many different organizations with too many different rules.This limits the car count at any event and for these events to servive there has to be increased car counts. My opinion is that if it looks period correct let it in after all its nothing more than a bracket race.The more cars the larger the events and more interest.If you insist that it be period correct then what is the definition of the period that you are trying to capture,1959/1965,1966/1975,then define it as such.In those periods we saw the changes from factory built cars with Atlas Plycron 7" tires to modified factory cars with 14" Goodyears and so on.So event promopters need to put aside all the BS and let anything that looks nostalgia compete.When two cars make a pass what does anyone know whats under the hood,2 fours,single 4 or TB injection and who cares.Seeing a 65 hemi or 63 409 Chevy or 427 Ford or any of the aforementioned brands with small blocks blast down the track is what your mind formulates as a nostalgia race.If it walks like a duck and looks like a duck then its a duck.That the duck had a good meal of grain or a hard snort of cocaine and puts on a exciting and graphic display of performance is what counts and the more ducks performing and the more people watching these displays of performances will help a dying sport possibably servive. This is what my mind thinking too now. I agree.
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Re: United Nostalgia Stock Superstock
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02/05/18 02:30 PM
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Dan did make the rule that the engine needs to match the make of the car (ford must be ford powered ect...) We'll be there hopefully for most of the races. So, a Plymouth can’t have a Gen 3 hemi, since it’s a dodge engine?
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