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Re: Paint code 99 [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2438127 01/20/18 08:41 PM 01/20/18 08:41 PM
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A990 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,806 541 slobovia	That's no help at all. Thanks for those photos! I really like dark green for some reason. A few years back I saw a new Ford pickup at the local dealer that was a gorgeous super dark green.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2438412 01/21/18 01:36 PM 01/21/18 01:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,774 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,774 A collage of whims	FWIW, my old code "99" '63 Savoy wagon was Air Force Blue, per their order. Somehow, the paint dept had to know what color a 99 car was to be, and that paint supplied in time, so there must be SOME way to determine what went on the car; but it'll take some detective work to figure that out now, assuming such records were kept.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2439410 01/23/18 03:42 AM 01/23/18 03:42 AM
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fuelishnsilly OP enthusiast F Joined: Apr 2016 Posts: 357 Greenwood Lake, NY	My friend ended up deciding to go with a blue from a chevy line up. It is more of a brighter blue than what he had on there originally. Its his car so I'm not going to tell him how to paint it. If it were me, I would have tried to match it back to that original color as close as I could have. inherited a 69 roadrunner from my grand pop.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2440422 01/25/18 05:27 AM 01/25/18 05:27 AM
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FuryRoad member F Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 25 Northern California	I have seen in person a plum crazy 1970 nova SS 396 4 speed that had the original sticker with a special order paint code from GM. The oddest original mopar color combo I have seen was a 383 4 speed sublime challenger with a top banana trunk stripe. I went to the dodge dealer the other day and was looking at new 3500 diesels and I asked if I could get a dually diesel with a R/T hood with sublime paint and he just laughed at me. So I left.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: FuryRoad] #2440427 01/25/18 06:16 AM 01/25/18 06:16 AM
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Re: Paint code 99 [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2440444 01/25/18 08:27 AM 01/25/18 08:27 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Medina, Ohio HEMICUDA top fuel
HEMICUDA top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Medina, Ohio	Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA 99 paint is special order for a reason. ANY paint commercially available at the time from any other car make / model, tractor, etc. could be specified. Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA 99 paint is special order for a reason. ANY paint commercially available at the time from any other car make / model, tractor, etc. could be specified. When you say "ANY", what exactly does that mean? To me, that means "without exception" and "ALL". So, if any commercial paint manufacturer offers any color, you could special order it? Do you have any documentation to prove this? You must have a dealer bulletin or some documentation to back up this outrages statement? If it's a "WAG", how about one that at least makes sense.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2440445 01/25/18 08:40 AM 01/25/18 08:40 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA	See the note on special order paint at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/FleetBook/1970/70_Fleet_Colors_tops0004.jpg I was also able to talk to one of the guys that worked at Hamtramck. I asked him about this & he said each of their major paint suppliers had a rep. present that could "mix any special paint color needed as needed on site". "WAGs" are useless to me.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2440881 01/26/18 04:42 AM 01/26/18 04:42 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Medina, Ohio HEMICUDA top fuel
HEMICUDA top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Medina, Ohio	Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA See the note on special order paint at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/FleetBook/1970/70_Fleet_Colors_tops0004.jpg I was also able to talk to one of the guys that worked at Hamtramck. I asked him about this & he said each of their major paint suppliers had a rep. present that could "mix any special paint color needed as needed on site". "WAGs" are useless to me. Yep, "WAGs" are useless to me also. Every plant may have had a fulltime paint rep and you might be correct they could mix any color they offer. That is a far cry from "ANY", “ALL” or “without exception” I don't get. So, the way I would take your “guys” comment is that he can mix any paint “they” offer or is an already established “fleet or leased” color. How you’re getting to where you are with his comment? is beyond me. Show just one documented 999 paint code car that wasn't either a past/present Chrysler or a fleet/lease color.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2440899 01/26/18 08:51 AM 01/26/18 08:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA	That is not all I know on the subject. I have done my own research on it for decades because I think it is an awesome part of the history of these cars. I would never say to just 'trust me, I am right'. Do some research on your own & see where it leads to. Look into the paint codes like 15A also, doing your own research is fun. I encourage everyone else do their own research as well.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2440984 01/26/18 01:01 PM 01/26/18 01:01 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Medina, Ohio HEMICUDA top fuel
HEMICUDA top fuel Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Medina, Ohio	Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA That is not all I know on the subject. I have done my own research on it for decades because I think it is an awesome part of the history of these cars. I would never say to just 'trust me, I am right'. Do some research on your own & see where it leads to. Look into the paint codes like 15A also, doing your own research is fun. I encourage everyone else do their own research as well. Why don't you post the complete tag so we can have an intelligent conversation, I am familiar with those.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: HEMICUDA] #2440991 01/26/18 01:15 PM 01/26/18 01:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Originally Posted By HEMICUDA Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA See the note on special order paint at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/FleetBook/1970/70_Fleet_Colors_tops0004.jpg I was also able to talk to one of the guys that worked at Hamtramck. I asked him about this & he said each of their major paint suppliers had a rep. present that could "mix any special paint color needed as needed on site". "WAGs" are useless to me. Yep, "WAGs" are useless to me also. Every plant may have had a fulltime paint rep and you might be correct they could mix any color they offer. That is a far cry from "ANY", “ALL” or “without exception” I don't get. So, the way I would take your “guys” comment is that he can mix any paint “they” offer or is an already established “fleet or leased” color. How you’re getting to where you are with his comment? is beyond me. Show just one documented 999 paint code car that wasn't either a past/present Chrysler or a fleet/lease color. To the best of my knowledge Porsche still has a Paint To Match program where, for a fee, you can have any car painted any known color. Just provide the paint code. So it's easy more me to see Mopar doing this for fleet vehicles. Barry - you could have thrown out a bigger bone for all of us to chew on.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: HEMICUDA] #2441058 01/26/18 03:31 PM 01/26/18 03:31 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Originally Posted By HEMICUDA Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA See the note on special order paint at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/FleetBook/1970/70_Fleet_Colors_tops0004.jpg I was also able to talk to one of the guys that worked at Hamtramck. I asked him about this & he said each of their major paint suppliers had a rep. present that could "mix any special paint color needed as needed on site". "WAGs" are useless to me. Show just one documented 999 paint code car that wasn't either a past/present Chrysler or a fleet/lease color. Just askin..... If all you have to go on is the 999 code how would you know what actual color the car was to make that comparison? Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: HEMICUDA] #2441059 01/26/18 03:33 PM 01/26/18 03:33 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	Originally Posted By HEMICUDA Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA That is not all I know on the subject. I have done my own research on it for decades because I think it is an awesome part of the history of these cars. I would never say to just 'trust me, I am right'. Do some research on your own & see where it leads to. Look into the paint codes like 15A also, doing your own research is fun. I encourage everyone else do their own research as well. Why don't you post the complete tag so we can have an intelligent conversation, I am familiar with those. Again, just askin........ What on the tag, other than the VON, should we be looking for in order to determine the color? Interior trim? Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: HEMICUDA] #2441222 01/26/18 09:16 PM 01/26/18 09:16 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA M Morty426 master
Morty426 master M Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 9,550 Sacramento CA	Originally Posted By HEMICUDA Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA See the note on special order paint at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/FleetBook/1970/70_Fleet_Colors_tops0004.jpg I was also able to talk to one of the guys that worked at Hamtramck. I asked him about this & he said each of their major paint suppliers had a rep. present that could "mix any special paint color needed as needed on site". "WAGs" are useless to me. Yep, "WAGs" are useless to me also. Every plant may have had a fulltime paint rep and you might be correct they could mix any color they offer. That is a far cry from "ANY", “ALL” or “without exception” I don't get. So, the way I would take your “guys” comment is that he can mix any paint “they” offer or is an already established “fleet or leased” color. How you’re getting to where you are with his comment? is beyond me. Show just one documented 999 paint code car that wasn't either a past/present Chrysler or a fleet/lease color. Isn't Omaha Orange a non Chrysler Color?

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2444662 02/01/18 01:53 PM 02/01/18 01:53 PM
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SuperRob member S Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 178 Hamburg - Germany	Anybody remember the 69 Super Bee that was a topic here? The car was obviously pink from the factory, there was some rumor about being a FM3 test mule, which couldn't be proved. Wouldn't that have been a non Chrysler color too in 69? Last edited by SuperRob; 02/01/18 01:54 PM.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: SuperRob] #2444719 02/01/18 03:17 PM 02/01/18 03:17 PM
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Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,902 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Originally Posted By SuperRob Anybody remember the 69 Super Bee that was a topic here? The car was obviously pink from the factory, there was some rumor about being a FM3 test mule, which couldn't be proved. Wouldn't that have been a non Chrysler color too in 69? I'm not an archeologist like some others here, but it doesn't make sense to test a color for production the following year. Could the car be pink? Sure. But FM3? I'm not convinced other than someone seems to want others to think they're sitting on a gold mine. Nonetheless, I know the car's gone to a new owner who likely will do the proper research.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: FuryRoad] #2444724 02/01/18 03:20 PM 02/01/18 03:20 PM
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Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,902 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Originally Posted By FuryRoad The oddest original mopar color combo I have seen was a 383 4 speed sublime challenger with a top banana trunk stripe. I wouldn't call it odd.....

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2444727 02/01/18 03:38 PM 02/01/18 03:38 PM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA	The '69 car did look a lot like FM3. They also did 'test spray out' colors for the next years models to evaluate them in person. (Like the A15 mentioned above) The earliest known 1970 car in what appears to be FM3 is the auto show 1970 Challenger R/T convertible & the paint code on it is 999. Did it stir up enough interest to add the color to the lineup? Could be, but we may never know for sure.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: Morty426] #2444741 02/01/18 04:09 PM 02/01/18 04:09 PM
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Mastershake340 master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 8,343 Crook County, ILL	Originally Posted By Morty426 Originally Posted By HEMICUDA Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA See the note on special order paint at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/FleetBook/1970/70_Fleet_Colors_tops0004.jpg I was also able to talk to one of the guys that worked at Hamtramck. I asked him about this & he said each of their major paint suppliers had a rep. present that could "mix any special paint color needed as needed on site". "WAGs" are useless to me. Yep, "WAGs" are useless to me also. Every plant may have had a fulltime paint rep and you might be correct they could mix any color they offer. That is a far cry from "ANY", “ALL” or “without exception” I don't get. So, the way I would take your “guys” comment is that he can mix any paint “they” offer or is an already established “fleet or leased” color. How you’re getting to where you are with his comment? is beyond me. Show just one documented 999 paint code car that wasn't either a past/present Chrysler or a fleet/lease color. Isn't Omaha Orange a non Chrysler Color? Petty blue wasn't a factory color yet in '68 either, yet there was a group of '68 Petty blue Roadrunners built for some sort of tie in with the '68 Daytona 500.

Re: Paint code 99 [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2444745 02/01/18 04:18 PM 02/01/18 04:18 PM
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Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,902 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA The earliest known 1970 car in what appears to be FM3 is the auto show 1970 Challenger R/T convertible & the paint code on it is 999. Did it stir up enough interest to add the color to the lineup? Could be, but we may never know for sure. The Challenger show car likely was a promotional introduction for a color that was going to be in the books midyear. Not sure what the 15A thing is you talk about....I saw a tag with the code, but I don't know what color it references nor do I know what car it was.

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