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I think it's put up or shut up really, and I cant put up...lol.

I also think Ryan wasnt trying to attack anyone, that was taken care of by the upstanding membership . It does make for some fun reading tho..

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Attack anyone? I just thought it would make for interesting conversation. I should have known when you start talking about HP #'s ego's get highly involved, and it got WAY off topic. One thing I will say for sure, this thread is like a train wreck, take a look at the hit counter, it certainly spawned more interest than alot of posts recently. This board would be downright boring without a good argument every once in a while.

Anyhow, I'm off to Michigan for the weekend to pickup my car. StrokedW7 and couple others have moroso calculators so they can keep running the #'s if anyone else comes up with more 59* combos.

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Im curious as to what the Moroso calculator says my car makes. I did'nt put my motor on an engine dyno, but I did put it on a rear wheel dyno (Dynojet) after I put the motor in the car. It's a 12 to 1 408 with ported Indy 360-1 heads, solid flat tappet cam(278/288 @ .050 with 640/619 lift on 112 lobe separation), Indy intake, 975 CFM race deomon carb. Car made 480 RWHP and is about 3250 lbs with me in it. Its run a best of 6.53 @ 104.7 with a 1.42 60'in the 1/8th.

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6.53 1/8 = 10.20 1/4 =555hp at 3250 pounds

for the moroso speed calculater

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That would equate to about about 13.5% drivetrain loss...

Steve

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steve ...how do you do it ?

my car :

10.80-123 mph at 3470 pound car = 500 hp

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Im curious as to what the Moroso calculator says my car makes. I did'nt put my motor on an engine dyno, but I did put it on a rear wheel dyno (Dynojet) after I put the motor in the car. It's a 12 to 1 408 with ported Indy 360-1 heads, solid flat tappet cam(278/288 @ .050 with 640/619 lift on 112 lobe separation), Indy intake, 975 CFM race deomon carb. Car made 480 RWHP and is about 3250 lbs with me in it. Its run a best of 6.53 @ 104.7 with a 1.42 60'in the 1/8th.

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6.53 1/8 = 10.20 1/4 =555hp at 3250 pounds

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That would equate to about about 13.5% drivetrain loss...

Steve

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steve ...how do you do it ?

my car :

10.80-123 mph at 3470 pound car = 500 hp

( rear wheel )

Based on the calculator your making about 492. So the rear wheel dyno your using pretty much correlates with the Moroso Speed calculator.

Steve





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My engine made 649HP on the dyno and made 580 HP at the wheels on a chassis dyno and it has gone 9.77 at 138MPH at 3100lbs.So where does that put my junk at?My car is a shoe box with wheels,no areodynamics.

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I have seen Jesse's car run and IMO it is one of the more impressive cars on this site. I would also bet he rarely sees DA's below 2500' where he runs. And just FYI the DA has a HUGE affect on MPH on a normally aspirated car.

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I'll second that. Jesse's Dart is a nice package, and really nothing too fancy, just a well planned out and assembled car.

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The cam is a very simple "base roller" design picked by Lazerri at ICH, it's a 279/279 .680"/.680" on a 108 LSA installed at 108. That cam is 197 @ .200", so it's fast but not ultra fast.

It has a INDY 360-3 intake that has been port matched and some plenum work.

Carb is a 1000 Race Demon.

Heads are INDY 360-2 Oval Ports Started life as their 230 CC CNC version. Went to a SB Ford head specialist in Michigan, he put 2.15/1.625 Ferrea's in them, did a VJ, opened up the intake throat for the bigger valve, and sand rolled the ports and chambers.

Using the INDY 440-1 Cast rockers (1.6's), off shelf 3/8" pushrods, no trick double tapers etc. The springs are actually K motions and checked out at anywhere between 220-245 on the seat, 630-660 open. They have two seasons on them.

And a set of 2" Heddman Hustlers....

That's it.... very basic shortblock, basic cam design, and a set of basically off the shelf heads and intake.

Car weighs between 3050-3060 with driver and fuel.

Best of high 5.80's 114 in the 1/8, 9.40's 142 1/4 mile.

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Ryan, What does the calculator say about my old Dakota pickup?

[Email]9.77@137 or 138 2925[/Email] lbs. 363 cid 59degree W2 heads on alky.

If I had a 3 speed in it, and coulda fooled with it, it woulda hauled.....

I know for what it was it made good power but I never got to run it faster then 10.00 due to no cert.........

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also i know your out of town..
what do those the main caps surface look like
just wondering,,since its apart.
cheapst.

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Im curious as to what the Moroso calculator says my car makes. I did'nt put my motor on an engine dyno, but I did put it on a rear wheel dyno (Dynojet) after I put the motor in the car. Car made 480 RWHP and is about 3250 lbs with me in it. Its run a best of 6.53 @ 104.7 with a 1.42 60'in the 1/8th.

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6.53 1/8 = 10.20 1/4 =555hp at 3250 pounds

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So clearly the Moroso in this case is revealing a very accurate FWHP

The Moparts Tech calculator is also WRONG where it says RWHP...its the same table as drawn from the Mopar SB book....but someone has typed in RWHP where in fact its FWHP.

Perhaps the Mods could alter this.....???

I get the feeling some may be disappointed with this..but "thems the facts"

See Ryans response here also....

RWHP vs FWHP

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Car weighs between 3050-3060 with driver and fuel.

Best of high 5.80's 114 in the 1/8, 9.40's 142 1/4 mile.

Based on the Moroso speed calculator it's making around 670 HP at the flywheel.

Anyhow.... Don't see 5.80 114 MPH 59 degree SB engine combos every day.

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The car is HOOKING for sure running 5.80's in the 1/8th with 660 on tap at that weight.

Our car runs 5.80's @ 118 and put 660 HP to the tires on a chassis dyno with a SBF, motor made @ 725HP on an engine dyno. It has been 9.001 @ 150 1/4. We came in @ 2800LBS in our car.


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71challenger, WOW!
and no one has called you a liar or said you used a "happy" dyno??
I bet you'd make at least 600hp on ryder's dyno!lol

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