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Mega a dart take a CHILL PILL if you dont like what other people have to say hang out at a chevy board

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hey scottb, did you dethrone B3 as the new president of the Moparts A$$ kissing club?
Don't like what I said?, go hang somewhere else. FYI, I still own Mopar so will do as I please but will tell you this, most chevy guys I've met recently are way nicer then folks here. You can KMA

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What does a .99 60' time in a BB Chevy powered RED

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my old junk is STILL the quickest/fastest W5 on moparts.

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Whoptee [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] do.

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I think those calculators are close for cars that are well sorted out. when my motor let go I was just starting to tune the chassis and feel it would've gone 1.22 60', 8.90 @ 152 but that is JMO. If I had a 3 speed probably would've seen 8's long ago as it was a soft leaver w/1.76 low. Needed more SLR



remember the race is to the finish line, my old junk is STILL the quickest/fastest W5 on moparts.

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Yep. I don't think anyone ever claimed to have a faster or quicker W5 car than yours, at least on this board. I have seen a very light Sundance tube chassis run in the 8's with 5's NA. And looking at the MPH and weight in the calculator your old 422 W5 was the most powerfull one I have seen on this board as well. I don't think anyone ever disputed that, and I don't know why you are so defensive about it. Maybe someone said something to you about it in the past that I don't know about... Dunno. It certainly should have made power, it's big inch, big head, sheetmetal intake, dry sump and injected methanol. I'd be disapointed if it did'nt make power. I'm just stating that based on weight and MPH it probably is'nt the most powerfull 59* motor out there, it's pretty darn close but.. I'm looking for the best, not the closest. So hopefully you feel better now that you've heard me say that it is probably the most powerfull W5 motor I've seen to date. I guess that is what you wanted to hear

Rt66Jim pretty much summed up the intent of the post, much better than I could have.

So back to our regularly shceduled post..... any takers Weight/MPH with Quick 59* motors?

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that's why the calculator uses MPH, not ET. chassis setup shouldn't affect MPH too much. they'll kill your launch, which affects etc. try it next time you're at a test & tune by varying your launch. go for a hard launch, then a light launch...you're ET might vary widely, but your MPH will probably be very close.

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Ryan- I'd assume then that the moroso calculator is actually calculating power to the pavement, not flywheel HP? or does it have some algorithm in it to accomodate drivetrain loss, at which case, then it looses accuracy, as a manual trans probably has a good 15-20HP efficiency gain over a 904, which has a good 15-20hp efficiency gain over a 727....

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All I know is Dwayne Porter's dyno also seems to be fairly consistent with the Moroso calculator, whereas another dyno I used previously probably showed an easy 10% above what the Moroso calculator comes up with.

3700#s and 122.5 MPH = ??? HP... somewhere around 520, maybe? Would have probably made around 540 HP on Dwayne's dyno (no accessories and open exhaust, vs. run in the car w/ full exhaust system, etc.), yet made 590+ HP on the other dyno.

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soooo you're claiming a .99 60' from a car that ran 1.7xs ? Not to mention it is as light as a go-kart

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cbk, who said anything about 1.7xs???
go carts weigh 500lbs, the tbucket was 1800.
Have you even made a pass in your car yet?? I know, I know, your still getting used to it right

Ryan, you knew where this thread would go.
I am a bracket racer, in fact I would race my lawnmower if my neighbor called me out...
Your title is/was a challenge to me anyone with a fast 59* motor. I'm proud of this one because I owned it and practically resurrected it from the grave. It was the [Edited by Moparts - Keep it clean] stepchild that no one wanted, full of cement and all. I gambled and it paid off.
I hope the peanut gallery is good at something cause they are terrible bench racers

I completely forgot some important data I gathered 3 years ago. When I was trying to dial in the fuel injection I put the car on a chassis dyno. Unfortunately I lost that stuff in the move but will have the info from the pulls early next week.

So what % should we use for drivetrain loss?
IIRC, this should get interesting...

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that is what the W5 pulled in a 23 tbucket 3 times before it melted the head...

I think those calculators are close for cars that are well sorted out. when my motor let go I was just starting to tune the chassis and feel it would've gone 1.22 60', 8.90 @ 152 but that is JMO. If I had a 3 speed probably would've seen 8's long ago as it was a soft leaver w/1.76 low. Needed more SLR

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But I see now you meant your dart, please be clear next time.

1800lbs is a go-kart compared to real cars...

Why does everyone bring The Haze into everything I post? Seems the only insult anyone has is that i'm afraid to bring it to the track or some ridiculous theory they pulled out of you know where. For the million time it's in pieces right now. Some of us go to college and don't have tons of time and money.

I think what Ryan's attempting is a noble cause. From a technical standpoint the car hobby in general is a mix of theoretically backed data with sloppy practices. It's a joke that Dyno's even vary by the amount they do. If industrial data was tested so sloppily we wouldn't be able to build anything without failure .

If moroso's #'s represent theoretical values backed up with empirical testing then why shouldn't we go by their chart rather than Joe backwoods's fish-scale-accurate Dyno?

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please be clear next time.

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Mega-man....some of us may not know who you are but I am pretty sure most of don't care anyway....The things you blurt out make no sense to any of us on here...the topic was high powered 59 deg sbm....then you bash talking about an 1800 lb go-cart or something of that matter....now as the topic was power I would bet my years salary that my edelbrock headed 59 degree sbm could twist the guts out of your W-whatever sbm......

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Sounds good to me, lets see the both of you as they say, Put up or shut up!! And I have no dog in this fight.

Ted

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FWIW, my old 422ci RIP made 741hp 635tq when first built.

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Why does everyone bring The Haze into everything I post?

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Probably because you've gotten a lot cockier in your posts since you bought it.

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Ryan have you seen where the Moroso calculator is accurate through out the scale or does it have a window of accuracy?

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--------- This is the red Duster I referred to earlier. SB412Duster, doesn't your car run mid 8s ? How much does it weigh ? Very nice car