Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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Yes, Bondo Bob makes them as far as I know. He advertises on here.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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I modified an A body drag link to fit a friends oil pan with a pass through in the pan. We raised that one, but you could drop one the same way within reason. I just welded in a piece of round bar in on top of the original bar, then torched away the old portion of the link. Clean it up with a grinder, done. We moved that one about 1 1/4 inch up.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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We can make a drag link dropped to whatever number you need Okay, I'll give you guys a call.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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I had a buddy straighten the drag link on the white Duster i used to have so it would pass through the square hole in the super stock pan Cost 60 bucks. He is an outstanding welder, took him an hour he said to set it up and make it straight like i wanted it
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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Just make sure that not only is the tube seam welded all around the circumference, but that you give it a few extra butt welds for extra measure of safety. I used solid rod. I would never use tube for a deal like that. It took a lot of welding to build it back up, but looks great 20 years later.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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Any chance someone has some pictures of a SS/AA car engine bay without the engine? I'd like to see what sort of steering linkage setup they are using on those cars these days.
I looked on-line at some SS/AA cars for sale but none of them had good pictures of the front suspension. Mostly just exterior pictures and pictures of the cage or rear suspension. Andy most of our cars have lowered links with a tube welded in for lightness. I can take a picture of mine soon and post it. Most are lowered because the motors are lowered so you have to drop the link to clear the block skirt.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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WRT "put my bar on the grinder" That makes me nervous, reducing the diameter in the middle reduces stiffness in compression a lot (no effect on tension - the other direction). It may bend and allow the wheels to toe without you knowing it.
The difference in stiffness (resists bending in compression) of a solid bar vs. a heavy-walled tube is pretty small, but I suspect that a one-wheel impact (curb?) may fold a tube (buckling load) but not a bar of the same OD. I don't have real numbers but a 1" solid bar is only about 7% stiffer than a 1" tube with 1/4" wall, and a 1-1/8" tube with 1/8" wall is stiffer than both.
IIRC back in the day the original link bent under load, and the cure was a piece of angle iron welded in the center - doesn't need to be full length, my guess is a 12" piece would do the trick.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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Any chance someone has some pictures of a SS/AA car engine bay without the engine? I'd like to see what sort of steering linkage setup they are using on those cars these days.
I looked on-line at some SS/AA cars for sale but none of them had good pictures of the front suspension. Mostly just exterior pictures and pictures of the cage or rear suspension. Andy most of our cars have lowered links with a tube welded in for lightness. I can take a picture of mine soon and post it. Most are lowered because the motors are lowered so you have to drop the link to clear the block skirt. That is what I was thinking. It doesn't seem like it would be too hard to cut the ends off and use them to fabricate a 3 piece bar with the center made from tubing. If a guy wanted to get fancy the ends could be made from billet steel with a spud on them and then a tube welded in between for the center section.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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Back in the 70's I think in the big Direct Connection book it might have said to heat the pitman arm and the idler to lower the drag link. Anyway, that's what I did to clear the pan at that time . Bent them both down to the same measurement from the ground and had a re-allighnement done. never had any steering problems at 130MPH. Now have a tubbed pan with the same steering modification.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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Back n the early 70's Roy Johnson had a 71 Challenger that he ran in IHRA and NHRA SS. He took the stock tie rod drag link, cut/sectioned it about 2 inches in from the inside hole. He then welded on 2 plates made from 1/4 inch steel. One on top and one on bottom. He then welded the cut piece of the tube and gained about 5 inches to the rear. This moved the center section of the tie rod to the rear of the oil pan, back close to the trans bell housing. He avoided the tie rod tube thru the oil pan with this set up. I always thought it looked unsafe. But he ran that car for many years with that same drag link on it. Hope this helps.
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Re: A body drag link - dropped?
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I always thought it looked unsafe
If there's enough metal, and someone with good intuitive grasp of the forces involved it will work.
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