Re: Anyone familiar with the Holley 4150G (governed) carburetor?
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I don't see any reason you couldn't put a regular carb and distributor on it. I would ditch that other stuff.
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Re: Anyone familiar with the Holley 4150G (governed) carburetor?
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Gene, thank you for chiming in. This is the type of info I am seeking. I have been driving a 361-2bbl 1967 D600 loaded way past the GVWR and so far so good. With all of that weight I can stand on the gas and the engine won't rev quickly. It might be different with a 440 and 4-barrel. We did get it started up on the 4150G and drove it around the yard a bit. Runs good, revs quick!
I assume your 361 is the Holley 2300G? Or did they use something else in the 60's models. We had a 361+governed 2bbl in a 75 grain truck growing up, thank goodness for the split axle. I love your dump truck, I've been trying to find one like that to swap a cummins into for towing my mud trucks around. Most the ones around here are the cast spoke dayton wheels and D600's.
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Re: Anyone familiar with the Holley 4150G (governed) carburetor?
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Yes it sure does! They even through in the top end from when the truck top end was transferred over. The trucks all ended up with industrial 413's. I don't ever recall seeing a 2.5 ton truck with an industrial 440. Only in an RV come to think of it. Wonder why?
So far in our stable we have the following 2.5 ton Dodge trucks:
1962 W500 Cab and Chassis, ex-ODOT plow rig 1967 D600 Tilt Bed 1967 D500 Fire Truck 1973 D600 w/ HOPTO Digger powered by a AC G-262 1977 D800 Dump Truck
The last thing on the list is a water truck. We might put a tank on the W500 but it only has a 20 GVWR IIRC. Looks like you need to find a C600 and an L600....then start venturing into the bigger trucks.
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Re: Anyone familiar with the Holley 4150G (governed) carburetor?
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Looks like you need to find a C600 and an L600....then start venturing into the bigger trucks.
Agreed! I missed out on a CNTT900 with a 8v71 this spring. Maybe nex time?
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Re: Anyone familiar with the Holley 4150G (governed) carburetor?
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Been a long time since I drove one of those. I started out in a swing fender 67 C800 with a 413 in it.
The governor prevents the engine from being over revved. IIRC the 413 was pinned at about 3800. There is a vacuum pump in the distributor and it would draw the throttle blades closed when it hit 3800.
If you disconnected that hose it would rev to the moon with a similar increase in MPH.
Kevin
I was thinking of putting a 4500 chip in the 6AL. Part of me wants to keep it oroginal. The impractical side that is.
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Re: Anyone familiar with the Holley 4150G (governed) carburetor?
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Dodge and Chrysler built industrial stuff and heavy duty stuff to last. As a result, the HD and industrial engines had limited horsepower.
413 or 440, each has a 3.75 stroke and pistons that weigh about the same. So, each is capable of the same redline, assuming valvesprings and ignition keep up.
The carb wasn't very big, so it needed small jets. You can bet the engines were set up to run rich for self protection. So, increasing jet size is probably a step in the wrong direction.
I wouldn't be surprised if that carb would work just fine with a regular carb baseplate.
R. -Weight has nothing to do with the redline of this engine. --This engine is not original nor is the camshaft. -The smallest jet I have EVER seen in a factory holley 4-barrel is 64. Why you think 59 would be lean in a big block is unfounded. -Rich tends to kill rings and foul oil. I'm going to make the engine run correctly by installing a 750 holley and MSD 6AL with a 4500ish chip. -This carb will not work fine with a regular baseplate. The air bleeds are calibrated for having no idle circuit on the primaries, etc. Unfortunately philosophy and tall talk are not going to remedy this situation.
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Re: Anyone familiar with the Holley 4150G (governed) carburetor?
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Even though you're going to ditch the governor stuff, I'm going to throw out a website called Bindeplanet.
It's a site for IH trucks and there are quite a few that dabble in med and hd trucks. And IH did use the same carb.
BTW, what do you plan to do with the old carb?
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