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Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239324
03/01/09 12:38 AM 03/01/09 12:38 AM
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i think i just didnt clearance the intake side of the pushrod holes for the 1.6 ratio. but that doesnt explain why the exhaust with a stock 1.5 ratio broke and bent the pushrod.

i think its time for over 500" of fun. ya its a lot of money but eventually im gonna do it anyways.

nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.
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03/01/09 12:39 AM 03/01/09 12:39 AM
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of course that's only a guess.



An Edumacated Guess...

Re: what happened???? [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #239326
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and i agree that the motor needs to come out.

nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.
Re: what happened???? #239327
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could have been sticky valve guides too, or any number of other things.

Thats what I was thinking.......

Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239328
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Did you check the valve train clearances when the motor was on the stand? Pushrod to head, pushrod cup to rocker adjuster, valve scrub on the rocker tip, coil bind, retainer to guide, rocker to retainer, etc?
Small block or big block won't matter. All these things should be checked...
Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239329
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i adjusted the valves with the intake and valley pan off the car, making 100% sure that the lifter was on the base circle before adjusting them to .022 intake and exhaust. and the pushrods are beeeeeeeeennnnnnnt just on cyl 5 though. i would think that if i adjusted the valves wrong. i would have done them all wrong and im not a weekend warior mechanic i am ase certified and have been doing nothing but working on engines for the last 7 years.



I hate to say this, but a good engine builder doesn't take short cuts of any kind.

Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239330
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i am noticing small marks on all of the pushrods in the intake side 1.6 ratio. i think i may need to clearance the pushrod holes in the heads even more.

Yea, that sounds like the problem. Putting 1.6 ratio rockers on can cause clearance issues. Sometimes the rub occurs at max lift rather than zero lift.

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Re: what happened???? [Re: 440Jim] #239331
03/01/09 01:47 PM 03/01/09 01:47 PM
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Metal in the oil? did you check the cam lobes for #5 cylinder. If there wiped that explain alot

Jack

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Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239332
03/01/09 01:56 PM 03/01/09 01:56 PM
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Something else I was thinking about was wheather or not you broke the cam in w/lower pressure springs or not. I lost a cam on Pettis`s dyno by using my running springs instead of brake in springs......just a thaught and I hope it comes together for ya. By the way, we completely tore the motor down and re-honed,re-ringed,new oil pump bearings etc.

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Re: what happened???? [Re: Thumperdart] #239333
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time for a 511 with B1 heads

Re: what happened???? [Re: Defbob] #239334
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i am pulling the motor today. if the crank got scorred or dammaged in any way i will be putting a stroker kit in it. if the crank is good i will re-ring and bearing the block allong with probably a little higher compression billet main caps studs and new forged rods. as well as clearancing the heads and ordering a little shorter pushrods for the intake 1.6 ratio side
everyone makes mistakes and i am the first to admit it when i do and this time it looks like i just didnt clearance the heads enough for the 1.6 ratio rockers

nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.
Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239335
03/01/09 05:27 PM 03/01/09 05:27 PM
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Good luck man and s#$T happens to all of us. If you can stroke that puppy and build more power then go for it.

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Re: what happened???? [Re: Thumperdart] #239336
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dom i was told not to "waste my time" breaking in the cam with just the outer springs. the motor is about to go on the stand and get pulled appart. if the crank is good then its stayin 440 jus w better parts. but if the crank needs work its goin 511 or bigger

nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.
Re: what happened???? [Re: RemCharger] #239337
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could have been sticky valve guides too, or any number of other things.

Thats what I was thinking.......



Same here.

Damn! I dropped my change.............
Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239338
03/01/09 08:04 PM 03/01/09 08:04 PM
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I told you about my experience but, maybe others get away with it. I didn`t and a few I know havn`t eighter. Eighter way, get a roller cam and b done with it.

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Re: what happened???? [Re: Thumperdart] #239339
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now your just talkin crazy. im trying to get this thing back togather not cheap but why throw out a cam that has less than 2 miles on it?

the crank needs to be turned the rods and trw forged pistons look good though. i just did the cost analays and its gonna be a difference of about 600$ to stroke it versus new pistons and rods.

what do you guys think? for 600$ i should go for it huh

nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.
Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239340
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Do it..........

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Re: what happened???? [Re: Thumperdart] #239341
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thats what i'm sayin. but the poll says fix it there is another member selling a 499" i just sent him a pm to see if he would ship it. i also sent a different member a message on a 500" kit and bcr mains w/ girdle i just want it running again. i hate not bieng able to drive my little cuda

nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.
Re: what happened???? [Re: cmcgee123] #239342
03/02/09 12:21 AM 03/02/09 12:21 AM
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I understand.........driving my car is therapy for me and it`s only down about every 4 or 5 years for a freshen/change. Good luck in whatever you do so we can race again.

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Re: what happened???? [Re: Thumperdart] #239343
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even if i have to sell my girlfriend it WILL be done within a month.

nitrous is like a really hot chick with an std you want to hit it but youre affraid of the outcome.
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