Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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Over 40 years of fooling with carbs, I've never seen that. Plenty of damage from moisture, corrosion, fuel additives and contamination, abuse, but not cracked to pieces like that.
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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Complete six pack setup bought brand new as a kit through Mopar back in 2006 or 2007 I've seen this discussed before; evidently during that time Holley was in financial trouble and I believe the flaking and peeling you're seeing is the result of Holley's offshore casting supplier having different standards regarding the metallurgical composition of Zamac #3 casting alloy. The substandard alloy, incorrect temperature/pressure used in the production of thousands of Holley main bodies, metering blocks, and float bowls is the root cause of the problem. Any moisture present in the fuel or during storage exacerbates the problem.
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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It's one of their special "HP" metering blocks...... As in "high porosity".
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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It's one of their special "HP" metering blocks...... As in "high porosity". Ok that's funny right there!!!! And probably true.
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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I've seen some carbs that was bought in US having problems here in Brazil. Mainly because we've 30% of ethanol in our gasoline and our ethanol is very different then US ethanol. No issues with my Demon carbs so far, but with edelbrock and old holleys we had some problems with corrosion.
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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I have had similar issues with 1 carb here in Australia 3(?) years ago there abouts . Severe delamination/breakup up of the fuel bowls . Only 1 carb of a new pair used on a blown chev . This was a street motor running pump gas . There was no ethanol in the fuel here at that time . Swapped on a old pair of spare bowls and away we went no further issues
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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I did a search on the bad Holley casting situation. Pretty interesting info about how that all happened.
I'm pretty sure that any zinc Holley parts I have were bought before that whole offshore casting situation was happening.
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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I'm going to have to google zinc pest. Never heard of it.
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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I looked up zinc pest and pretty much all the images I see of that look just like my metering block. Interesting, thanks for the info yall!
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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Since it sounds like Holley is willing to do something about for Chip, it will be interesting to see if they do a metering block or the whole carb.
What I'm taking away from this thread, and the stuff I found relating to it is.... I'm going to stay away from Holley carbs made during that 2006-2009 era.
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Re: Holley carb disintegrating...ever seen this?
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Holley had some issues around that time causing the carbs to flake apart, IIRC it was porosity. One of my friends had bought a new carb around 2006, I never saw it and don't think it was anywhere near as bad as what you have, but he had it apart about a year later, saw the issue, called Holley and the rep at Holley told him they had been having issues and Holley sent him a new one. His was a 770 Street Avenger.
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