Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
[Re: SportF]
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10/10/17 08:45 PM
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MrT2U is right, its a tale.
AMC went out of business, ran out of money, but there is a law that says they have to keep making parts????
Its not true, belongs in the auto falsehood column. you are wrong there has to be a law in place for this reason... there would be nothing stopping a company from building a new car then not making parts for it. so it is obsolete as soon as it needs a part and then you have to buy another to replace it. this is a quote from a consumer protection lawyer on this very subject.. i was just wrong on the length,its 10 years "the manufacturer is obligated to have parts for 10 years after they discontinue a model, and then after that if it was not a popular model they are not required. If you feel they should still have the part, based on the age and popularity of the vehicle, you can report the dealer to the state dealership licensing agency to see if they are violating state law or to the Fed. Dept of Trans. to see if they are violating the federal law in connection to this particular car and part."
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Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
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10/10/17 10:44 PM
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flypaper, when Yugo went away do you think they continued to make parts? If a company is out of business and money, how are they going to make parts?
When the creditors confiscate machinery in lew of money owed, how can a company make parts. This is just an impossible situation.
IF this was true, why only cars? Why not legislation for my old microwave, TV, computer ect.
I'm old, I heard this stuff 55 years ago. I didn't believe then either.
If you can show me actual law, well then.......but I wouldn't look for it, it is just not possible.
A lot of car makers went out in the fifties. Aftermarket manufactures kept parts flowing only as long as they made money. After that, it was done. Buyer beware.
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Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
[Re: SportF]
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10/10/17 11:29 PM
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flypaper, when Yugo went away do you think they continued to make parts? If a company is out of business and money, how are they going to make parts?
When the creditors confiscate machinery in lew of money owed, how can a company make parts. This is just an impossible situation.
IF this was true, why only cars? Why not legislation for my old microwave, TV, computer ect.
I'm old, I heard this stuff 55 years ago. I didn't believe then either.
If you can show me actual law, well then.......but I wouldn't look for it, it is just not possible.
A lot of car makers went out in the fifties. Aftermarket manufactures kept parts flowing only as long as they made money. After that, it was done. Buyer beware.
just answer me this what is out there to stop what i just mentioned from happening????? i'm not scouring the internet its just logical that this law exists. if that law did not exist, there would be no replacement parts ever made from a car manufacturer period. they would have no motivation or reason to. would they rather sell a lousy part or another new car? they make parts because they have to by law... you think they make parts from the kindness in their hearts? yikes i'm sure when a manufacturer goes bankrupt then the laws change for them in court.
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Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
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10/11/17 02:37 AM
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flypaper, when Yugo went away do you think they continued to make parts? If a company is out of business and money, how are they going to make parts?
When the creditors confiscate machinery in lew of money owed, how can a company make parts. This is just an impossible situation.
IF this was true, why only cars? Why not legislation for my old microwave, TV, computer ect.
I'm old, I heard this stuff 55 years ago. I didn't believe then either.
If you can show me actual law, well then.......but I wouldn't look for it, it is just not possible.
A lot of car makers went out in the fifties. Aftermarket manufactures kept parts flowing only as long as they made money. After that, it was done. Buyer beware.
just answer me this what is out there to stop what i just mentioned from happening????? i'm not scouring the internet its just logical that this law exists if that law did not exist, there would be no replacement parts ever made from a car manufacturer period. they would have no motivation or reason to. would they rather sell a lousy part or another new car? they make parts because they have to by law... you think they make parts from the kindness in their hearts? yikes i'm sure when a manufacturer goes bankrupt then the laws change for them in court. Less emotion more facts required here. Many reasons service parts are made by OEM manufacturers. Mostly for $$$$ though. Service parts sell for 100-300% more than OE price.
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Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
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10/11/17 10:48 AM
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This is my opinion: The manufacturers must make the parts for the warranty period. If not, they would either, be in violation of the warranty contract, or would be wasting money buying aftermarket parts. To my knowledge, the longest part of the warranty would be the emissions portion. I found this: is there a federal law concerning oem parts availability on automobile lines that have been discontinued. If so what is the statute Share this conversation
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Expert: Law Educator, Esq. replied 5 years ago.
I am afraid the current federal law only requires that parts be produced and made available for the full warranty period of the vehicle. Thus, once the warranty year expires on the last year the car was produced, the manufacturer is no longer bound to continue making parts for that vehicle. Thus, I am afraid there is no statute requiring them to keep making parts after the warranty would expire on their last product sold, even though most manufacturers continue for 2-3 years after the warranty period. See: Discontinued Cars.This was the website: https://www.justanswer.com/employment-la...-lines-bee.htmlAll of this makes me wonder: What about the lifetime warrantees on some vehicles? The late model Challenger comes to mind?
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Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
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10/11/17 04:35 PM
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Was able to purchase a left and right NOS Challenger fenders in 1981 for my 70 Challenger. Dealer stickers are still on the back. Fenders were 624 and 625 (part number coded for a Trans Am car) but they have the 71 notch in front-hood pin area. Dealer had them laying around and just wanted to get rid of them.
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Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
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10/13/17 12:25 AM
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Yeah they stamped them years after the cars were new. I've had lots of NOS sheetmetal stenciled with dates up to 10 years after the car was built. So much for that theory. Obviously if there was some rule the govt. or insurance companies wanted imposed it wouldn't apply to a manufacturer when it went bankrupt.
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Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
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10/14/17 12:16 AM
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I doubt is in effect now. I would really guess there is a money trail and the insurance companies were behind it so they didn't have to total off cars that were lightly damaged when near new.
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Re: NOS Sheet Metal?
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11/10/17 12:57 AM
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I worked for a Dodge dealer in the mid to late 80's. We had NOS front fenders and rear 1/4's for two door '77-78 Aspens still in stock. After a couple years working there, the manager sent them all back to the Parts Depot during a cycle return. Around 1985, I went to a local C/P dealer looking for an NOS front valance panel, for my 1969 300 vert. They found a dealer in New York City, that had the very last valance panel left in the country(thru the dealer network)! Think I paid around $45 or so with shipping!
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