Re: Ladder bar suspension
[Re: Magnum]
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10/08/17 02:47 PM
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A few things to consider. If this is for the street I vote for 4 link or leafs due to the one fact. Ladders do not allow for any articulation. This is very hard on the car.
As for 3 inch exhaust out to the bumper. It's a challenge with all 3 set ups. Inboard leafs have 3 inch less room to the gas tank, than original and the bar set up needs a panhard bar. I run with 3" exhaust to the bumber in my 69 Dart with mini tubs and a 11 x 29" slick, Caltraks and mono leafs. I would suggest you look a cars you like and barrow ideas from them. I used TTI tailpipes and modified them a little
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Re: Ladder bar suspension
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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10/08/17 03:15 PM
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What are you looking to do? Big tire, biggest tire? You can only get a certain size tire under the wheel well with the spring into the frame , a mini tub will help some. Are you up to a back half? If so , 4 link is the way to go.
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Re: Ladder bar suspension
[Re: DrCharles]
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10/08/17 03:50 PM
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How did it handle on the street compared to the SS springs? I prefer the ladder bars to the SS springs for driving around. I think having good shocks/dampers had the most to do with it and not the ladder bars. Like a lot of bracket guys I had given hardly any thought to shocks On my street car I run a split mono spring moved inboard. If you want a good street/strip car with full exhaust Calverts set up is what you should do. It will be the easiest for exhaust routing and is capable of handling lots of power, plenty of guys go fast on them.
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Re: Ladder bar suspension
[Re: Saskabusa]
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10/08/17 04:53 PM
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How did it handle on the street compared to the SS springs? I prefer the ladder bars to the SS springs for driving around. I think having good shocks/dampers had the most to do with it and not the ladder bars. Like a lot of bracket guys I had given hardly any thought to shocks On my street car I run a split mono spring moved inboard. If you want a good street/strip car with full exhaust Calverts set up is what you should do. It will be the easiest for exhaust routing and is capable of handling lots of power, plenty of guys go fast on them. Yes plenty of guys do go fast on CalTracs...until the track starts going away. Ask me how I know. My 4 link will hook in a car wash, can't say the same for the CalTracs
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Re: Ladder bar suspension
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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10/08/17 10:59 PM
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I went with ladder bars on my Rampage.. the race car has a 4 link.. they both hook very well... the 4 link can hook in mud.. I wanted the Rampage LOW so I went with the ladder bars.. if you go with the ladder bars and drive it on the street you should add a bracket on the rear so you dont crack off the bar at the rear.. if you need a pic I can show you what I mean If you have some pics of how you braced ladder bars for the street, i would love to see them.
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Re: Ladder bar suspension
[Re: nasty68]
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10/08/17 11:58 PM
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The big thing is the lower bracket on the housing... the brace on the axle keeps the lower bracket from flexing.. its on the right hand side..sort of hard to see since its all black
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Re: Ladder bar suspension
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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10/09/17 11:10 PM
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So the diagonal link is the best way to go then? I have seen some cars "Watts link" but it looks like another whole day of fabrication and another $200 in rod ends and material. Gus
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Re: Ladder bar suspension
[Re: fourgearsavoy]
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10/10/17 12:20 PM
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Superfreak
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I made my diagonal link from thicker dom material because I had heard and read that some people were having flexing issues and the bar bending. Then I thought Hey! why not make it into an x-brace. Unfortunately the car is not ready to drive yet.
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