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Need 440 Fuel Pump #237817
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Who sells the correct fuel pump for a 1969 440 375hp engine? The OE Chrysler part number was 3004107.

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: GeeTeeX] #237818
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Anybody? What's being used for restorations?

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: GeeTeeX] #237819
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Go to your local auto parts store.

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: 70challrtse] #237820
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I've tried. They show the 383 but not the 440 with the correct threaded fitting for the metal fuel line.

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: GeeTeeX] #237821
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Others, far more knowledgeable than myself should chime in here, but I went to O'Reillys.

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: GeeTeeX] #237822
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See if you can find a Carter #M4845. It has a 3/8" inlet with the correct angle between the inlet and outlet for your stock fuel line to the vapor separator.

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #237823
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If your looking for a "real" one,try ebay #400031828989,although I thought Carter reproduced one that is very close to this original design

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: 44D6PAKCUDA] #237824
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You can also bolt on a Hemi filter. That's what I had on mine until I knew better.

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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #237825
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Thanks! The picture looks like the pump I'm trying to find.

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: 70challrtse] #237826
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You can also bolt on a Hemi filter. That's what I had on mine until I knew better.




What do you mean until you knew better???


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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: Prodart440] #237827
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You can also bolt on a Hemi filter. That's what I had on mine until I knew better.




What do you mean until you knew better???




I don't know what HE meant, but I also bought the Hemi pump and was about to use it until several knowledgable people told me it'd have way too much pressure for my 6 Pack. It was a carter that came from Chrysler and was rated at 8.7 PSI; I was told that anything over 5-6PSI was too much.

I ended up using the M4845 pictured above.

Dave

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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: DPelletier] #237828
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Would that be too much for a Holley??


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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: Prodart440] #237829
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You can also bolt on a Hemi filter. That's what I had on mine until I knew better.




What do you mean until you knew better???




Someone told me it was wrong. It worked fine on my U code, but obviouly not was not aesthetically correct.

Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: Prodart440] #237830
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Would that be too much for a Holley??




I would imagine so (after all the 6 pack centre carb is basically half a 4150), but I have no relevant direct experience.

Dave


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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: DPelletier] #237831
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I run the Hemi 120gph pump 8.5 psi max with no regulator on a six pack and it works great. Pulls hard through all the gears. At the worst you would need to add a regulator, if i did that I would set it at 7.5 psi, as far as the 120 gph the engine won't use more fuel than it needs but it certainly will run bad if it doesn't get enough.

I used some of the other Carter pumps and my engine layed over in 3rd and 4th gear and ran like crap, didn't pull the way it should have. The other pumps discussed are prob fine for stock rebuilds, any modifications and I would use the Hemi pump. Just my


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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: DPelletier] #237832
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I use a Hemi type pump on mine but it has a max of 7.5 psi pressure. Carter has several. The #4589 pump has a 3/8" inlet. I use the 3/8" Hemi fuel line from the tank and am planning to switch over to the 6.5 psi #4845 from my current 7.5 psi Hemi type pump. You can get whatever you want from Summit. It's not a bad deal except for the mandatory $9.00 handling charge...or is it more now? Check out the available Carter pumps on the link below. Click on the part number for the specs.
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch....&rsview=sku

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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #237833
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The 6.5 flows 80gph the 8.5 psi flows 120gph. My car wanted the extra volume.


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The 6.5 flows 80gph the 8.5 psi flows 120gph. My car wanted the extra volume.




The 4845 has a 120gph max 6.5 psi rating. Bob K (Mr. Sixpack) told me that anything over 7 psi would blow past the needles and seats on the 440-6's. If you are not worried about concours judging, I would get the 4845 if you have a 5/16" fuel line because you can get the fittings for either 3/8" or 5/16" inlet. The OE type #4589 also has a 120gph max 6.5 psi rating but it has a 3/8" inlet. You could slip a 5/16" fuel line over it with a little lubrication if you have a 5/16 fuel line. You may have to get a fresh hose for ease of installation.

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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: RoadRunnerJD] #237835
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I have no issues with the 8.5 psi pump the part number is 4862 you might be right on the flow for the part you mentioned there is another version that only flows 80gph. Check it at Mancini. I have no issues with the 8.5 psi not blowing past the seat 6 pack runs strong with no issues. Real world...if there was an issue all you need is a reg after the pump set it to 7.5 psi. A good six pack will run out of steam with the lower psi IMO.


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Re: Need 440 Fuel Pump [Re: hemisurfer] #237836
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I have no issues with the 8.5 working on your sixpack. I wish mine was running strong right now. However, it seems like GEETEEX is looking for a stock appearing replacement because he mentioned the p/n? It's a 4 bbl and probably not a race car. Do you really think he needs to try a high pressure non-OE pump when the 6.5 at 120 gph will work fine and looks like the one he's trying to find? I'm just trying to answer his question about where to find a correct appearing pump. I do not believe it's a matter of maximum performance...but I did suggest the 3/8" line from the tank. By the way, I had the Carter 5903 7.5 psi on this car. No problems at 120mph in the 1/4.

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