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Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: Crizila] #2376660
09/25/17 07:10 PM
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We tried the E3s on back-to-back pulls on a 600HP small block. The dyno said we gained 1 HP. What is that, 00.1667% gain? Whoop-tee-damn-do! A few degrees more in oil temperature could net us that.

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Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: LaRoy Engines] #2376745
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[quote=LaRoy Whoop-tee-damn-do! A few degrees more in oil temperature could net us that. [/quote]
Only if your using thick oil whistling tsk grin


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Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: Cab_Burge] #2376800
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I've seen top fuel plugs and they only had
1 ground strap but they say they run then
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Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: Crizila] #2376843
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There was an episode of Horsepower TV where they did some fairly extensive tests on the E3's with regards to economy and emissions.
I think if they have any real advantage over a std plug...... that's probably where it is.

What I liked about the NGK T plug was the way the ground straps are oriented it wouldn't trap the spark/kernel under the ground strap.



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Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: fast68plymouth] #2376876
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
There was an episode of Horsepower TV where they did some fairly extensive tests on the E3's with regards to economy and emissions.
I think if they have any real advantage over a std plug...... that's probably where it is.

What I liked about the NGK T plug was the way the ground straps are oriented it wouldn't trap the spark/kernel under the ground strap.




I run the 2 strap one

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Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #2376895
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Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted By BigBlockMopar
Originally Posted By crlush
... The only bigger scam in my book is a cold air intake/filter on a stock car.


You mean like every carmaker is doing these days?c


Yep, cold air is not a scam.
The problem is every one I've seen has a crap cone filter and sucks hot underhood air, I've seen them butted up against the radiator rolleyes . Watch and learn Cold Air Intakes Mythbusted NOT by "The Mythbusters". twocents

Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: Skeptic] #2376906
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Originally Posted By Skeptic
Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted By BigBlockMopar
Originally Posted By crlush
... The only bigger scam in my book is a cold air intake/filter on a stock car.


You mean like every carmaker is doing these days?c


Yep, cold air is not a scam.
The problem is every one I've seen has a crap cone filter and sucks hot underhood air, I've seen them butted up against the radiator rolleyes . Watch and learn Cold Air Intakes Mythbusted NOT by "The Mythbusters". twocents


A lot of factory installations get true cold air. Hell, even my 77 Volare had a true functioning cold air intake.
Now the ricer junk with their K&N cones under the hood are another matter.

Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: Crizila] #2376920
09/26/17 01:10 AM
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Top Fuel Dragster Info

I can't verify this information, but it all sounds very realistic when you think about it.
Either way its a good read


1. One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.

2. Under full throttle, a dragster engine consumes 1-1/2 gallons of nitromethane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.

3. A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster supercharger.

4. With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.

5. At the stoichiometric (stoichiometry: methodology and technology by which quantities of reactants and products in chemical reactions are determined) 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

6. Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

7. Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

8. Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After ½ way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.

9. If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.

10. In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

11. Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.

12. Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!

13. Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.

14. The redline is actually quite high at 9500rpm.

15. The Bottom Line; Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second.

16. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher).

17. The top speed record is 333.00 mph. (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).


Putting all of this into perspective:

You are driving the average $140,000 Lingenfelter "twin-turbo" powered Corvette Z06.
Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass.
You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the 'Vette hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph.
The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment.
The dragster launches and starts after you.
You keep your foot down hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you.
He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.
Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.

That is awesome acceleration !!!

Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: Crizila] #2376968
09/26/17 08:28 AM
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With such strict emission standards, as well as MPG requirements, I would think that if these plugs performed that well, the OE's would be using them, or a version there of.
Does anyone know if any manufacturer is using a plug like this?
I'd suspect you'd get more from basic ignition and carburetor tuning.


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Re: E3 spark plugs [Re: Crizila] #2377040
09/26/17 11:41 AM
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I have run NGK plugs for years. I switched over to E3 for the contingency payout in NMCA. $150 to win $75 to runner up for each event.
I expected the plug to be the same as the NGK and thats exactly what you get.
I know several of the NMCA NSS folks run them for the same reason. None of us have had any issues with them.

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