Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Glad to see this one not going of topic Sorry bout that I'd like to hear about specific known 440-6 cars past the rarity of the production reports. The next steps in rarity beyond those reports. Pointless. The year and model of the six pack car is far more important in defining rarity. The OP's question has been answered. The 71 Cuda vert and the 70 Coronet verts are single digit production--extremely rare, and each one is likely 1 of 1 anyway. Now if you want to ask something like "What's the rarest muscle era Mopar sunroof car" or some other option then have at it. The fact that MILLIONS of sunroof cars are on the road right now kinda ruins that option for me.
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Glad to see this one not going of topic Sorry bout that I'd like to hear about specific known 440-6 cars past the rarity of the production reports. The next steps in rarity beyond those reports. Pointless. The year and model of the six pack car is far more important in defining rarity. The OP's question has been answered. The 71 Cuda vert and the 70 Coronet verts are single digit production--extremely rare, and each one is likely 1 of 1 anyway. Ok, which one of those those 71 Cuda's and 70 Coronets is the rarest and most desirable optioned? Now if you want to ask something like "What's the rarest muscle era Mopar sunroof car" or some other option then have at it.
The fact that MILLIONS of sunroof cars are on the road right now kinda ruins that option for me. There are millions of convertibles too. JS29 is a separate model with the fastback designation, but it's just a window plug. In 71 they offered it, but didn't even make is a separate model. I know I was getting hung up on sunroofs, but there are other very desirable, odd, rare options like N96, painted bumper, floral top, louvers, super track pack, headlight washers, etc for 69-71 cars that make certain cars very unique.
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car? Re-thinking this question, to me it would have to be the cheapest base price Plymouth/Dodge with NO options at all except for the 6BBL/SIX PACK engine option. No other options, zero, nada, zip, zilch, NOT even a transmission or differential choice. NOTHING BUT THE CARBURETOR/ENGINE option. Now that to me would be the rarest and it would end the one of one because of any other option(s). As for color if it just so happened to be in a very popular color (check Dave Watt's A12 color chart of registered A12's and R4 red seems to be the norm or most registered.) but it really doesn't matter. The rarest to me 6BBL/SIX PACK in the least or no optioned car IMO. Deleted items like a heater, striping, etc., would surely put it over the top. Now that being said I'm sure there will still be ![argue argue](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/argue.gif) and ![catfight catfight](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/catfight.gif) going forward ![laugh2 laugh2](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/laugh2.gif) MikeR
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Lets answer the original question
1969 B body RM21M D21 - 388 RM21M D32 - 227
RM23M D21 - 422 RM23M D32 - 375
WM21M D21 - 267 WM21M D32 - 153
WM23M D21 - 826 WM23M D32 - 661
1970 B Body RM21V D21 - 429 RM21V D32 - 222
RM23V D21 - 697 RM23V D32 - 433
RM27V D21 - 20 RM27V D32 - 14
RS23V D21 - 350 RS23V D32 - 328
WM21V D21 - 109 WM21V D32 - 87
WM23V D21 - 599 WM23V D32 - 473
WS23V D21 - 97 WS23V D32 - 97
WS27V D21 - 7 WS27V D32 - 9
XS29V D21 - 347 XS29V D32 - 337
1970 E Body JS23V D21 - 847 JS23V D32 - 793
JS27V D21 - 61 JS27V D32 - 38
JS29V D21 - 135 JS29V D32 - 161
BS23V D21 - 902 BS23V D32 - 853
BS27V D21 - 17 BS27V D32 - 12
1971 B Body RM23V D21 - 137 RM23V D32 - 109
RS23V D21 - 62 RS23V D32 - 73
WM23V D21 - 30 WM23V D32 - 69
WS23V D21 - 80 WS23V D32 - 98
1971 E Body JS23V D21 - 127 JS23V D32 - 119
BS23V D21 - 108 BS23V D32 - 129
BS27V D21 - 5 BS27V D32 - 12
SO IT LOOKS LIKE 1. 1971 'cuda440+6 convertible 4 speed - 5 2. 1970 Coronet R/T convertible 4 speed - 7 3. 1970 Coronet R/T convertible Automatic - 9 Morty426 which one on this list has the lowest base price? I'm thinking it would be the 1969 RM21 with the standard 4-speed?
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Don't know what relevance late model cars with a sunroof has to do with these 'vintage' cars with a sunroof... There is(was)allegedly ONE '71 Hemi RR w/sunroof... There is allegedly ONE '71 Hemi GTX 4-speed w/sunroof... In the '71 GTX world, 1.3% of production came in with a sunroof... Good case for rare(and expensive)...
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Lets answer the original question
1969 B body RM21M D21 - 388 RM21M D32 - 227
RM23M D21 - 422 RM23M D32 - 375
WM21M D21 - 267 WM21M D32 - 153
WM23M D21 - 826 WM23M D32 - 661
1970 B Body RM21V D21 - 429 RM21V D32 - 222
RM23V D21 - 697 RM23V D32 - 433
RM27V D21 - 20 RM27V D32 - 14
RS23V D21 - 350 RS23V D32 - 328
WM21V D21 - 109 WM21V D32 - 87
WM23V D21 - 599 WM23V D32 - 473
WS23V D21 - 97 WS23V D32 - 97
WS27V D21 - 7 WS27V D32 - 9
XS29V D21 - 347 XS29V D32 - 337
1970 E Body JS23V D21 - 847 JS23V D32 - 793
JS27V D21 - 61 JS27V D32 - 38
JS29V D21 - 135 JS29V D32 - 161
BS23V D21 - 902 BS23V D32 - 853
BS27V D21 - 17 BS27V D32 - 12
1971 B Body RM23V D21 - 137 RM23V D32 - 109
RS23V D21 - 62 RS23V D32 - 73
WM23V D21 - 30 WM23V D32 - 69
WS23V D21 - 80 WS23V D32 - 98
1971 E Body JS23V D21 - 127 JS23V D32 - 119
BS23V D21 - 108 BS23V D32 - 129
BS27V D21 - 5 BS27V D32 - 12
SO IT LOOKS LIKE 1. 1971 'cuda440+6 convertible 4 speed - 5 2. 1970 Coronet R/T convertible 4 speed - 7 3. 1970 Coronet R/T convertible Automatic - 9 Morty426 which one on this list has the lowest base price? I'm thinking it would be the 1969 RM21 with the standard 4-speed? I bet mine is pretty close to that!
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Lets answer the original question
1969 B body RM21M D21 - 388 RM21M D32 - 227
RM23M D21 - 422 RM23M D32 - 375
WM21M D21 - 267 WM21M D32 - 153
WM23M D21 - 826 WM23M D32 - 661
1970 B Body RM21V D21 - 429 RM21V D32 - 222
RM23V D21 - 697 RM23V D32 - 433
RM27V D21 - 20 RM27V D32 - 14
RS23V D21 - 350 RS23V D32 - 328
WM21V D21 - 109 WM21V D32 - 87
WM23V D21 - 599 WM23V D32 - 473
WS23V D21 - 97 WS23V D32 - 97
WS27V D21 - 7 WS27V D32 - 9
XS29V D21 - 347 XS29V D32 - 337
1970 E Body JS23V D21 - 847 JS23V D32 - 793
JS27V D21 - 61 JS27V D32 - 38
JS29V D21 - 135 JS29V D32 - 161
BS23V D21 - 902 BS23V D32 - 853
BS27V D21 - 17 BS27V D32 - 12
1971 B Body RM23V D21 - 137 RM23V D32 - 109
RS23V D21 - 62 RS23V D32 - 73
WM23V D21 - 30 WM23V D32 - 69
WS23V D21 - 80 WS23V D32 - 98
1971 E Body JS23V D21 - 127 JS23V D32 - 119
BS23V D21 - 108 BS23V D32 - 129
BS27V D21 - 5 BS27V D32 - 12
SO IT LOOKS LIKE 1. 1971 'cuda440+6 convertible 4 speed - 5 2. 1970 Coronet R/T convertible 4 speed - 7 3. 1970 Coronet R/T convertible Automatic - 9 Morty426 which one on this list has the lowest base price? I'm thinking it would be the 1969 RM21 with the standard 4-speed? I bet mine is pretty close to that! WINNER!!!!!!!!!!............wait T5 was that an extra cost option? ![laugh2 laugh2](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/laugh2.gif) (there were no extra cost color options back then right??) Does it have an AM radio?
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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So,.....the 1971 Sport Fury GT 6BBL with a sunroof, but no other options; complete "stripper" GT that has a 7/70 SPD, that will eventually surface will be the rarest!!!
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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So,.....the 1971 Sport Fury GT 6BBL with a sunroof, but no other options; complete "stripper" GT that has a 7/70 SPD, that will eventually surface will be the rarest!!! BTW this IS the rarest of the rare a 1 of none! Making this thread done. OMG is this Daniel from Fantomworks justifying this 383 6BBL? ![laugh2 laugh2](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/laugh2.gif) (had to say it ![grin grin](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/grin.gif) ) oops it doesn't have a sunroof......yet
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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So,.....the 1971 Sport Fury GT 6BBL with a sunroof, but no other options; complete "stripper" GT that has a 7/70 SPD, that will eventually surface will be the rarest!!! BTW this IS the rarest of the rare a 1 of none! Making this thread done. OMG is this Daniel from Fantomworks justifying this 383 6BBL? ![laugh2 laugh2](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/laugh2.gif) (had to say it ![grin grin](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/grin.gif) ) oops it doesn't have a sunroof......yet Exactly! Cut a hole in the roof and you have the holy grail of Mopars!!! ![laugh2 laugh2](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/laugh2.gif)
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car? Re-thinking this question, to me it would have to be the cheapest base price Plymouth/Dodge with NO options at all except for the 6BBL/SIX PACK engine option. No other options, zero, nada, zip, zilch, NOT even a transmission or differential choice. NOTHING BUT THE CARBURETOR/ENGINE option. Now that to me would be the rarest and it would end the one of one because of any other option(s). As for color if it just so happened to be in a very popular color (check Dave Watt's A12 color chart of registered A12's and R4 red seems to be the norm or most registered.) but it really doesn't matter. The rarest to me 6BBL/SIX PACK in the least or no optioned car IMO. Deleted items like a heater, striping, etc., would surely put it over the top. Now that being said I'm sure there will still be ![argue argue](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/argue.gif) and ![catfight catfight](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/catfight.gif) going forward ![laugh2 laugh2](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/laugh2.gif) MikeR Mike, Let see how close I come: 1970 Superbee Hardtop - $3074.00 E87 440 Sixpack - $249.55 D21 4 speed - $197.25 A34 Super Track Pack - $235.65 S81 Woodgrain Wheel - $26.75 EV2 High Impact Paint - $14.05 W21 Rallye Wheels - $43.10 U84 F60-15 Tires - $63.25 Total $3903.60 BTW this is a HEATER DELETE car
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Morty426 which one on this list has the lowest base price? I'm thinking it would be the 1969 RM21 with the standard 4-speed?
69 Road Runner Coupe - $????? - the book I have lists the base price at $2599 and I think that's wrong. Anyone have a better number? A12 is listed at $462.80 - does anyone know if that includes the rear end cost?
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Morty426 which one on this list has the lowest base price? I'm thinking it would be the 1969 RM21 with the standard 4-speed?
69 Road Runner Coupe - $????? - the book I have lists the base price at $2599 and I think that's wrong. Anyone have a better number? A12 is listed at $462.80 - does anyone know if that includes the rear end cost? Here is some excerpts from over on the A12 page. These are what the minimun optioned A12 RR and SB look like. The RR is cut and pasted for illustration, the SB is a real car. An A12 RM21 with the M2 interior is the least expensive 69 six pack car built. DD
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Re: What's the rarest 6BBL/6-PACK car?
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Morty426 which one on this list has the lowest base price? I'm thinking it would be the 1969 RM21 with the standard 4-speed?
69 Road Runner Coupe - $????? - the book I have lists the base price at $2599 and I think that's wrong. Anyone have a better number? A12 is listed at $462.80 - does anyone know if that includes the rear end cost? Here is some excerpts from over on the A12 page. These are what the minimun optioned A12 RR and SB look like. The RR is cut and pasted for illustration, the SB is a real car. An A12 RM21 with the M2 interior is the least expensive 69 six pack car built. DD Wow It appears the A12 package was the best $462.80 ever spent
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