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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: slantzilla] #2373165
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Look at the attendance to the Yellow Bullet Nats.Over 500 cars racing 'till midnight.This and the events like lights out and such PACK them in.


True,but start having one every other weekend and see what happens.


Make the payout big enough, and it'll continue to draw.


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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: pittsburghracer] #2373308
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I was again quite surprised at how few people were in the stands at Charlotte....... For all the pro catagories.

It won't survive long like that.


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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: slantzilla] #2373320
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
Originally Posted By hemi-itis
Look at the attendance to the Yellow Bullet Nats.Over 500 cars racing 'till midnight.This and the events like lights out and such PACK them in.


True,but start having one every other weekend and see what happens.




There is a big money street/heads up race just about every other week it seems. Hard to keep track of them all.

Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: pittsburghracer] #2373480
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I for one would love to see Super Stock and Stock cars running in a race together, no classes just dial it in and not be worried about going to fast for a HP hit. 1990 and earlier cars, run what you brung. Stockers still run on 9 inch tires. No bracket cars, no rails. All done in one day with a big payout. Do this once or twice a month and they might say to hell with NHRA.

Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: cudaman1969] #2373491
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
I for one would love to see Super Stock and Stock cars running in a race together, no classes just dial it in and not be worried about going to fast for a HP hit. 1990 and earlier cars, run what you brung. Stockers still run on 9 inch tires. No bracket cars, no rails. All done in one day with a big payout. Do this once or twice a month and they might say to hell with NHRA.




So it's a bracket race again except both classes run together. If so that would be very boring to most


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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: cudaman1969] #2373504
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
I for one would love to see Super Stock and Stock cars running in a race together, no classes just dial it in and not be worried about going to fast for a HP hit. 1990 and earlier cars, run what you brung. Stockers still run on 9 inch tires. No bracket cars, no rails. All done in one day with a big payout. Do this once or twice a month and they might say to hell with NHRA.

wasnt that what Michael Beard , Loose Rocker Promotions , tried a year or so ago ? Didn't pan out if I recall .

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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: pittsburghracer] #2373614
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It depends on what you're there for, just to see a win light or two nice cars going down the track. Hate to breake the news but NHRA is bracket racing with an occasional class race where the biggest wallet wins.

Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: pittsburghracer] #2373623
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How many true heads-up classes aren't dominated by the biggest wallet?


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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: slantzilla] #2373865
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Originally Posted By slantzilla
How many true heads-up classes aren't dominated by the biggest wallet?

All of them, top to bottom. And a little help from the HP factor

Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: AndyF] #2373878
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I think Pro Stock is boring now. I understand how it got there but I think the end result is boring. I know that those cars have a boat load of cash and technology and R&D time in them. I understand how much work it takes to build those cars and to run them. I get it - but the end result is BORING.

I loved the class back in the days before computer controlled air shocks and all of that turned the races into a slot car contest. I know that is what they have to do to get down the track clean and fast and safe but it is to dull to watch so I just ignore it.

Sad, but true... It's like watching paint dry at 200+ MPH.

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Pro stock cars look like the same banana with decals for identification. I like hearing the engines scream, but to the average guy, they want races that are unpredictable.
It doesn't matter the class, some guys will just try to outspend their competitors, like we've seen in Pro Stock with Ken Black.
That said, some guys just work harder and smarter, like the Bruder Brothers.


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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: pittsburghracer] #2375464
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Watched Pro Stock qualifying from the finish line yesterday. Enjoyed it. I'm not ready to stick a fork in it just yet.


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Compared to how the stands have looked recently....... There seemed to be a pretty good crowd for Friday qualifying at the Grove.


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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: fast68plymouth] #2375471
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Compared to how the stands have looked recently....... There seemed to be a pretty good crowd for Friday qualifying at the Grove.



PA and ohio usually have a pretty good turn-out.


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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: fast68plymouth] #2375531
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
Compared to how the stands have looked recently....... There seemed to be a pretty good crowd for Friday qualifying at the Grove.


BIG crowd for Friday. I got there before 8 and they were rolling in. Stands were full, 4 and 5 deep on the fence for the second fuel session. Better than I've seen in many years. Maple Grove and a great weather forecast on the same weekend doesn't happen very often.


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Re: THE DEBATE OF NHRA PRO STOCK'S FUTURE CONTINUES [Re: pittsburghracer] #2375723
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Once again Pro Stock has more entries than Top Fuel and Funny Car. Everybody seems to be focused on the low car counts in Pro Stock, but fuel cars are hurting also. Just not enough incentive for any independents to race outside there region. In Chicagoland we have three funny cars and two top fuel teams that only race at 2-5 events a year. Zizzo shows up and qualifies in the top half of the field and only races three times per year.

Nhra needs to give the Pro classes an increase in purse and more teams will show up more often. I raced two National events this year and can tell you us Sportsman racers pay a big chunk of the events. Heck I had to pay $100 just for insurance at each race to nhra.

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