Re: how old is too old?
[Re: Porter67]
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09/12/17 04:47 PM
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The Radial TAs on my 68 are...old... now you have me worried...
If I drove it I would be really worried....
68 Charger 383/ AT Green/Green VT 70 Roadrunner 383/4sp Purple/Black VT
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: mickm]
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09/12/17 05:36 PM
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1987 ford 350 box van, one original rear tire blew in 2000, the set now are 17 years old but I'm afraid of them so I'll get some new ones. Might have 4000 miles in them. My 2006 3500 Dodge truck came with Michlens, replaced those in 2016 because I got a good deal on take offs from a 2016 3500. They had... 96,000 miles on them, you could see the air in them they where so wore out and they where cracked up bad. Each one might have had five patches in it. They where 8 or 10 ply tires. I've always said the "rubber" of today is not as good as 40 years ago, almost designed to go bad so more tires are bought. If you have an old car and quarters are hard to find, tires are cheaper, don't take a chance. Besides, the old ones are easy to sell.
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: mickm]
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09/12/17 05:37 PM
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I use to jack up my Stocker and put it on jack stands so the tires didn't sit on the cement floor in the back shop out of the sunlight, that help keep the slicks biting longer than when I use to let another drag car sit outside in the sun on the asphalt driveway between races I can't tell you many tires on the car hauler trucks and trailers I've lost going to the races Way to many Sitting still for long periods of time is not good for anything or anybody Buy new ones now
Last edited by Cab_Burge; 09/12/17 05:38 PM.
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: mickm]
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09/12/17 05:40 PM
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i paid the price once i got a flat and the spare only made it a mile down the road... tires are a lot cheaper then a fender
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: nomore65BelvJim]
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09/12/17 05:47 PM
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isn't there usually some indication before it goes? Sometimes... just enough time to think...."what the hell is that...." I've had older tires blow out just sitting in the driveway. One of the rears on my F250 did that...sounded like a shotgun. Didnt see any cracks/splits in the tire before it went boom. The tire must have been dreaming about running over a curb or speed bump.
Tom
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: mickm]
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09/12/17 10:11 PM
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Alright, I get it! You guys are right, new tires it is! Come on, Micky.... I put a set of Nitto 555 tires on my Charger in 2003. I heard many of these same horror stories and went ahead and replaced them with a set of Nitto NT 01 tires in a softer compound than the 555s. The old tires looked great outside and inside because like you, my car is safely tucked away out of sunlight other than a few times a year. These softer tires do grip better and this time, I may "age out" right about the time I wear them out.
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: mickm]
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09/13/17 12:47 AM
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And just think the tires on my AIRPLANE are from 1998 and are weather checked but as long as I don't see any cord, they are legal to fly with...
1941 Taylorcraft 1968 Charger 1994 Wrangler 1998 Wrangler 2008 Kia Rio 2017 Jetta
I didn't do 4 years and 9 months of Graduate School to be called Mister!
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: nomore65BelvJim]
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09/13/17 03:00 AM
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yes but....are they legal to land with? Legal doesn't prevent harm, especially in airplanes My airplane sat in a hangar in Novato for several years before I got it, I have no idea how old the mains and front tires where when I got it, it wasn't enter in the logs by the decease previous owner I ended up flat spotting both mains shortly after buying and flying it do to not being a good pilot and knowing how to land that airplane properly and safely I replaced them with some cheap, legal mains and ended up replacing the front tire around a year later. Those cheap mains lasted less than 4 years before they started weather checking from sitting outside tied down for those four years in Hesperia, CA before I was able to buy a hanger on the field for it. That was a Comanche 250 that I learned to land at 85 MPH indicated with or without flaps, those long tapered wings love to float above 90 MPH I ended up putting a set of the best Goodyears available on the mains and they where still on it when it got total by a hail storm in Bend in the spring of 2006 What risk are you willing to gamble on? I have a pile of destroyed trailer tires that had the caps come off going or coming back from the races at 55 to 65 MPH, I hate having tire troubles on the road I carry three spares for the race trailer now
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: mickm]
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09/13/17 12:29 PM
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Just change them, not worth taking a chance on your life or car. I'm working on my A66 Challenger convertible that was in storage since 1984. At the time I put new TA radials on the car. Out of storage, they still held air, and had most of their thread. Good for moving the car around the driveway, NO way highway. Be safe and change them.
1970 A-66 340 Challenger convertible
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Re: how old is too old?
[Re: DaytonaTurbo]
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09/13/17 12:37 PM
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I would just run them. The tires on my daily driver are about that old. I had them in storage for 7 or 8 years while I ran down the set that came with my car. I did 80mph with them on the way in to work today.
The considerably newer tires on the back of my wife's car started to separate tread from the casing. One wore through and just went flat on the highway one day, no catastrophic failure. The other one developed a super nasty wobble and I noticed the same tread separation when changing the tire.
Not exactly apples to apples but on our highway tractor/trailers we recently pulled a worn retread tire off a customer's trailer. The tread was worn but an inspection of the casing showed it was 17 years old and had been recapped 6 times and it was still in good shape. We have a trailer on our yard we use for putting around off-road only and the date on the casings is either 1990 or 1980 can't tell which. Saturday I had a job at Bandag, they recap tires for a living, google them. In the process we discussed recaps and I was told pass car and light truck casings are too light duty anymore to recap. So they don't as they cannot be guaranteed. I wouldn't run old pass car or light truck tires for anything more than getting it to the tire store for a new set and then only at city street speeds. If the are not so old as to be the old HD ones that could be recapped then they are a poor gamble and if they are so old as to fall into the HD category, they are too old for the rubber to have held up safely. But if you want to gamble with your life go ahead play polish roulette but don't gamble with mine or anyone elses.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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