Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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I have a set of the wagon wheels on my 72 D200, in 16". No one makes 16.5" tires anymore, so you'd have to pick a different size for sure.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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8 bolt pattern? I think you can pretty much get any wheel you can imagine for that pattern, even late model 16 or 17 inch wheels from the JY. Disc brake front end?
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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8 bolt pattern? I think you can pretty much get any wheel you can imagine for that pattern, even late model 16 or 17 inch wheels from the JY. Disc brake front end? Converted it to GM disk brakes long ago with locking hubs
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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8 bolt pattern? I think you can pretty much get any wheel you can imagine for that pattern, even late model 16 or 17 inch wheels from the JY. Disc brake front end? Yes it is 8 lug but when I try use any rim application software it says no dice on the truck. Dont know if it is the floating axle size in the rear end or what
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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Another think to watch out for on the axle swap is, at least on the half tons with which I am more familiar. The 72 W200 should have a divorced 205 transfer case with lockout hubs and the 75 trailduster should have a married fulltime 203 transfer case with solid front hubs and an issue you will most likely run into is the 72 W200 front axle has a different pinion angle to mate up with its divorced transfercase so you will end up with a funky pinion angle and possibly some drive shaft issues if you put the the W200 axle with the 203 fulltime transfer case in the trailduster.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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Another think to watch out for on the axle swap is, at least on the half tons with which I am more familiar. The 72 W200 should have a divorced 205 transfer case with lockout hubs and the 75 trailduster should have a married fulltime 203 transfer case with solid front hubs and an issue you will most likely run into is the 72 W200 front axle has a different pinion angle to mate up with its divorced transfercase so you will end up with a funky pinion angle and possibly some drive shaft issues if you put the the W200 axle with the 203 fulltime transfer case in the trailduster. The 75 Trailduster has been fully converted to a 1993 Ramcharger 360 MPI engine with a 518 4 speed automatic and the non full time transfer case. I want to swap over my 72 axles as they are part time drive and the transfer case now supports this. I can't install my front driveshaft until I do this.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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Another think to watch out for on the axle swap is, at least on the half tons with which I am more familiar. The 72 W200 should have a divorced 205 transfer case with lockout hubs and the 75 trailduster should have a married fulltime 203 transfer case with solid front hubs and an issue you will most likely run into is the 72 W200 front axle has a different pinion angle to mate up with its divorced transfercase so you will end up with a funky pinion angle and possibly some drive shaft issues if you put the the W200 axle with the 203 fulltime transfer case in the trailduster. The 75 Trailduster has been fully converted to a 1993 Ramcharger 360 MPI engine with a 518 4 speed automatic and the non full time transfer case. I want to swap over my 72 axles as they are part time drive and the transfer case now supports this. I can't install my front driveshaft until I do this. I agree on the pinion angle. Better to swap the 8 lug w200 knuckles/hubs/stub shafts on the full-time axle. The 72 W200 has 8x6.5 bolt pattern. Very common pattern. Stock gm wheels will not clear the rear axle hub. Factory ford wheels will clear the hub.(ford changed the 8 lug pattern in the late 90s and the newer ones won't work.) Could also swap to 5x5.5 bolt pattern with 80-93 ramcharger/w150 knuckles/hubs/stub shafts.(Probably the best option if you want locking hubs unless running tires bigger then 35s. Mile-marker made a hub kit for the 5x4.5 bolt pattern but it keeps the weak design of the 75-79 full-time dana 44 bearings. Or balance the front shaft and put it on with the full-time front axle.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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Another think to watch out for on the axle swap is, at least on the half tons with which I am more familiar. The 72 W200 should have a divorced 205 transfer case with lockout hubs and the 75 trailduster should have a married fulltime 203 transfer case with solid front hubs and an issue you will most likely run into is the 72 W200 front axle has a different pinion angle to mate up with its divorced transfercase so you will end up with a funky pinion angle and possibly some drive shaft issues if you put the the W200 axle with the 203 fulltime transfer case in the trailduster. The 75 Trailduster has been fully converted to a 1993 Ramcharger 360 MPI engine with a 518 4 speed automatic and the non full time transfer case. I want to swap over my 72 axles as they are part time drive and the transfer case now supports this. I can't install my front driveshaft until I do this. I agree on the pinion angle. Better to swap the 8 lug w200 knuckles/hubs/stub shafts on the full-time axle. The 72 W200 has 8x6.5 bolt pattern. Very common pattern. Stock gm wheels will not clear the rear axle hub. Factory ford wheels will clear the hub.(ford changed the 8 lug pattern in the late 90s and the newer ones won't work.) Could also swap to 5x5.5 bolt pattern with 80-93 ramcharger/w150 knuckles/hubs/stub shafts.(Probably the best option if you want locking hubs unless running tires bigger then 35s. Mile-marker made a hub kit for the 5x4.5 bolt pattern but it keeps the weak design of the 75-79 full-time dana 44 bearings. Or balance the front shaft and put it on with the full-time front axle. I already have locking hubs in my 1972 W200 axles. I converted the front to GM disk brakes with hubs. I rather stay with my W200 axles as they are Dana 44/60 with 4:10 gears. I don't want to run the 9 1/4 that 75 came with nor front end that came in the 93 The problem is finding a decent rim / mag in the 8 x 6.5 pattern - that is what I am looking for
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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I bought my wheels from Summit. 16X7 for the front and 17X8 for the rears. I have a D200 2 wheeler and am going with the big N little set-up. There is an abundance of wheels that will fit the 8 bolt pattern. from 15X10, to the more common wagon wheel, up to the big modern rims. The problem I have is finding lug nuts for them. Also looking for the spacers to get a hub-centric mount.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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I already have locking hubs in my 1972 W200 axles. I converted the front to GM disk brakes with hubs.
I rather stay with my W200 axles as they are Dana 44/60 with 4:10 gears.
I don't want to run the 9 1/4 that 75 came with nor front end that came in the 93
The problem is finding a decent rim / mag in the 8 x 6.5 pattern - that is what I am looking for
You may want to check the pinion angle before swapping that early front axle in a truck with a married t-case. Are you running a lift on the ramcharger? http://www.homedepot.com/p/Empire-Polyca...etic+protractorNot sure why you are having trouble finding rims. Maybe use 1992 W250 instead of 1972 W200.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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There are getting to be fewer and fewer trucks running 16s any more. Look for the variety of tires available to shrink. I'd personally pick 17s, they have a "normal" look to them. Going larger to 18s or 20s is also an option.
What I'd suggest is PICK YOUR TIRE OUT FIRST. Then when you know what size wheel you need, you pick out the wheels. I've had it happen where a wheel I really liked was in a size that didn't have my width or an aspect ratio that I wanted. Luckily I didn't buy those wheels, but it brought up the problem.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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There are getting to be fewer and fewer trucks running 16s any more. Look for the variety of tires available to shrink. I'd personally pick 17s, they have a "normal" look to them. Going larger to 18s or 20s is also an option.
What I'd suggest is PICK YOUR TIRE OUT FIRST. Then when you know what size wheel you need, you pick out the wheels. I've had it happen where a wheel I really liked was in a size that didn't have my width or an aspect ratio that I wanted. Luckily I didn't buy those wheels, but it brought up the problem.
R. Yes I get that. The problem is most sites only want to show you stuff by vehicle application and then show you the stock wheel size in different styles. I want to search all wheels with a 8x6.5 bolt pattern but have not found it yet.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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I want to search all wheels with a 8x6.5 bolt pattern but have not found it yet.
This is exactly how the Summit site works. You enter your parameters and the site shows what you are looking for. I started with the 8X6.5 then entered 17" rim with 8" width and 4" back space. My Wheels arrived yesterday. Tires will be mounted by the time I get back to town next Tue. No more 16.5"s for me.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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I want to search all wheels with a 8x6.5 bolt pattern but have not found it yet.
This is exactly how the Summit site works. You enter your parameters and the site shows what you are looking for. I started with the 8X6.5 then entered 17" rim with 8" width and 4" back space. My Wheels arrived yesterday. Tires will be mounted by the time I get back to town next Tue. No more 16.5"s for me. Very helpful. Thanks
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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Update. The wheels had the wrong bolt pattern. They were 6 lug. I had them sent to the Firestone dealer. They didn't realize the issue. I contacted Summit. New wheels on the way. Summit is making it right. No charge to me, Even though the tires were mounted. Just waiting another week for new rims to get the tires mounted again. Tires are LT all terrain, 247-70-17. 30"sX8"s.
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Re: Wheel Options for a 72 W200
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I put a set of Cragar Soft 8's on a '80 W200 I had not long ago they looked and worked great. They were 16"
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