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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: fast68plymouth] #2365485
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
The Fel-Pro 1612's work excellent for rpm heads and mp cast valve covers.

The big down side with them for me has been.......after they have been installed a while, when you remove the v/c, it usually tears the gasket, and you need to replace them.

I've had good results with the moroso gaskets on Indy heads using Indy v/c's, with studs and nylock nuts.
I squish them down a little and call it good.

I'm jealous of how clean that engine bay is!!!



Next engine you do an engine with Indy covers try a set of the Cometic rubber coated steel gaskets. The Cometic gaskets are a step or two better than the Moroso gaskets. I've thrown all my Moroso gaskets away and switched all of my engines over to the Cometic gaskets. Zero leaks even after having the covers on and off a bunch. And the Cometic gaskets will hold a bunch of pan vacuum.

Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: Sxrxrnr] #2365487
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Originally Posted By Sxrxrnr
Originally Posted By Azzkikrcuda
Try these Moroso gaskets. Been using my set for 10 years, removing them once or twice a year, still no leaks. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-9...ASABEgIECvD_BwE


Unfortunately my bad luck, exactly the one's I have recently used on my BB Edy aluminum head, MOPAR performance aluminum valve covers.

Both sides at rear bottom bolt seep no manner how tightly I cinch them and how often. It does seem that I can always get another half turn of the bolts as it appears this gasket has infinite crush capabilities.

Had switched from cork for re-usuability which had only leaked a very modest amount on right rear cover,,,which was corrected with a dab of silicone black at that point.

Moroso's, I have never removed but about to give them the silicone treatment,,,,but am uncertain if will do any good as they are now oil soaked.

If this fails, back to cork I go. Yes I suspect that valve cover machining may be questionable too and in that is where my Moroso problems lie. Particularly as others are having success.


With a nice clean engine compartment like that you should consider tossing the MP valve covers and getting some nice billet covers. Not sheet metal covers, billet ones. Like these:

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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: mopar dave] #2365531
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Dave......you do have some breathers on the motor, right?

Andy.....what's interesting on the mp cast covers is.......they seem to work just fine on stock heads with the normal Fel-Pro cork gaskets.
I just silicone the gasket to the v/c, and I have been able to R&R the v/c's numerous times.....no leaks at all.


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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: fast68plymouth] #2365576
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Yes. Using breathers

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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: AndyF] #2365620
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Originally Posted By AndyF
Originally Posted By Sxrxrnr
Originally Posted By Azzkikrcuda
Try these Moroso gaskets. Been using my set for 10 years, removing them once or twice a year, still no leaks. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-9...ASABEgIECvD_BwE


Unfortunately my bad luck, exactly the one's I have recently used on my BB Edy aluminum head, MOPAR performance aluminum valve covers.

Both sides at rear bottom bolt seep no manner how tightly I cinch them and how often. It does seem that I can always get another half turn of the bolts as it appears this gasket has infinite crush capabilities.

Had switched from cork for re-usuability which had only leaked a very modest amount on right rear cover,,,which was corrected with a dab of silicone black at that point.

Moroso's, I have never removed but about to give them the silicone treatment,,,,but am uncertain if will do any good as they are now oil soaked.

If this fails, back to cork I go. Yes I suspect that valve cover machining may be questionable too and in that is where my Moroso problems lie. Particularly as others are having success.


With a nice clean engine compartment like that you should consider tossing the MP valve covers and getting some nice billet covers. Not sheet metal covers, billet ones. Like these:


Very high tech and what's more,,,very pretty. My wife might even let me set this in the living room.

Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: mopar dave] #2365695
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You need to check the valve cover with a straight edge,if they ain't flat and you can't make them flat,then you need the 1/2 inch thick gaskets so you have room to crush,,,,,,don't ask how I know violin


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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: mopar dave] #2365838
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Boy has this thread gone off the rails.....

MoparDave has a tech question about one of my products and I come on here to assist him in resolving the issue and diverts to Mopar Performance valve covers, this brand gasket, that brand gasket, pimping billet valve covers, etc..

When someone purchases from Superformance Products they get real, honest and cohesive tech support direct from the manufacturer. Take advantage of that benefit.

Posting an issue on a web forum muddies the water with expert "opinions" and can take hours or even days with back and forth questions and answers when a 5 minute phone call can get someone on track. I simply can not sit here and monitor moparts for everything that goes on or every question that may arise, it's just a side benefit that I'm a member who enjoys the hobby and willing to help where and when I can.

Dave, call me @ 866-925-78 five five and lets get the answers to your questions handled!

Thanks for your support

Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: mopar dave] #2365859
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I myself who too has experienced leaks of uncertain origin have learned points from this thread which may prove of value in the determination of the cause of my own valve cover sealing issue.

If Dave had merely called your firm instead of using this forum for advice, which all agree is a valuable tool, I and others would not have benefited from the shared wisdom of fellow members.

Would you not all agree that this would be a a primary purpose for the existence of this forum?

Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: mopar dave] #2365895
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Boy has this thread gone off the rails.....


Just the nature of the beast Greg.


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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: fast68plymouth] #2365984
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Same red gaskets on my Mopar Peformance covers on RPM heads for about 7+ years and no leaks.............. thumbs


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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: roadhazard] #2366002
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Sorry Greg . not knocking your product just curious to if any one else with the issue as i thought it might be common with the gasket as stiff as it is. Using your gaskets in the rest of the build as well. Great product. Thanks to your rear main seal and Monty Smith advising me to clock that seal 12 and 6 oklock. No leaks there or any where else. Havent measured everything yet but will in a few. I just think a soft gasket might seal these covers. if i could afford $600 covers i would of bought them.

Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: mopar dave] #2366043
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Personally, I don't think this thread got off the rails. Although, that does happen a lot around here. The OP asked a question of the members and the answers have been relatively on target.

I like and use Superformance gaskets.....in certain places. They are the ONLY thing that I have found that can stop my intake from sucking oil. But their valve cover gaskets leaked on my Hemi. Fel Pros stopped the leaks. I think because they were softer. Plus they are a lot cheaper.

I do have to torque them occasionally. And I change them when I adjust the valves. Works out to about $15 a year. But the oil stays in the engine now.

Just my twocents.


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No reason to be sorry and I know you are not knocking anything, just need a little bit of help and I'm more than willing to give it. Just give me a call.

It's just much easier and more productive to have a conversation over the phone than go through every little technical detail that may or may not be pertinent to you while pecking away at a keyboard while others take the conversation off into la la land.

For those injecting the greatness of the 1612 (made of pulp fiber aka paper) I'd guess have never seen or used our Carbon-X that have been out for 4 years this month and have become very very popular.
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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: roadhazard] #2366068
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Getting the covers off now. Let me get a hard look at the flanges and ill call.

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Carbon-X is what I used on mine with the Indy no logo covers and dry as a bone. up


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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: mopar dave] #2366088
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Originally Posted By mopar dave
Getting the covers off now. Let me get a hard look at the flanges and ill call.


Once you tighten em up a couple of times, you'll notice they will need to go back on into the same impregnation they made to seal and you can feel it when it's right........


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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: Thumperdart] #2366186
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Finally got around to putting a straight edge on the flanges of my covers. sure enough they are low in the center of the cover, high on the ends. looks like about 1/16" difference. Gonna have to use some black RTV and glue them to the covers. That should fix the leak. I would have thought tightening them up would flatten them out to seal. guess not.

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I always silicone em to the covers no matter what material and that cut's you chance of a leak by 50%............ apimp laugh2


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Re: superperformance valve cover gaskets [Re: mopar dave] #2366220
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Glue the Superformance to it. They will seal to the head just fine!

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These are too oily at this point. I ordered some inexpensive mr.gasket 1/4" off ebay. should of been here before holiday, but just got them. look like cork painted black. thought they were rubber. Gonna see if these will work. I glue'd them on covers last night. Will call Greg later today to see what my other options are. Thanks

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