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Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: OUTLAWD] #2354982
08/16/17 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By OUTLAWD
Originally Posted By Dbl"00"Joe
Here's mine,
1970 Cuda weighs 3490
446 ci RB 10.5 compression Pump Gas
Stock 440 steel crank Icon pistons and Scat Rods
Victor Intake and old style 950hp (small venturi)
260ish solid flat tappet cam ootb 240"s with Smith bros push rods and Harland Sharp 1.5 Rockers
2" Hooker super comp headers and 3" exhaust with Magnaflow Mufflers
8" ATI converter
Its ran a best of 10.42 @ 127 @ US 131


Lift? or its top secret?


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Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2355535
08/17/17 03:30 PM
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What timing is everyone running, right now I'm at 34 deg

Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2355751
08/17/17 09:49 PM
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Sorry to go off topic but is trick flow thinking about sound a small block head as well?

Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: Dart451] #2355753
08/17/17 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Dart451
What timing is everyone running, right now I'm at 34 deg
I am at 34 deg myself.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2355766
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I'm at 36 deg. Never tried anything else though.

Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: DblOJoe] #2355779
08/17/17 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Dbl"00"Joe
I'm at 36 deg. Never tried anything else though.
I started out conservative with 32* then bumped up to 34*, seemed to help a little but it was hotter and more humid when I bumped up than it was at lower temp and humidity, I am going to try 36 after I do some other tunin'.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: relax383] #2356277
08/18/17 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted By relax383
Sorry to go off topic but is trick flow thinking about sound a small block head as well?
I personally have not heard any talk of it.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2356310
08/18/17 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted By dartman366
Originally Posted By relax383
Sorry to go off topic but is trick flow thinking about sound a small block head as well?
I personally have not heard any talk of it.


Second hand information that I have says TF tried to do a small block Mopar head and gave up on it. I don't know any specific information but I did talk to a guy who said he knew about the head and that it the project got cancelled for some reason. Not sure if it was a technical reason or a marketing decision.

Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: AndyF] #2357848
08/21/17 09:38 PM
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bumpI know there has to be more than 5 guys that are running these heads. shruggy


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2357861
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Originally Posted By dartman366
bumpI know there has to be more than 5 guys that are running these heads. shruggy




When I talked to the Trick Flow guys at Norwalk 4-5 years ago I told them that the big block Mopar market was pretty flooded and there was more need for a GOOD small block head. He asked if his Friends could join the conversation and 5 of us sat there for 30 minutes BSing. Several of the employees thought the same thing but it was to far along to do anything about it. They will sell some heads but there are only so many big block Mopar guys.


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.38@138.67


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Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2357951
08/22/17 12:32 AM
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68 448 RB Squared and Zero decked with CR @ 10.7:1
Custom Lightweight Race Tec Pistons, factory turned steel crank, factory LY rods with ARP rod bolts, Comp XR 286 HR Cam, Trick Flow Roller Lifters, TF 240 Heads, Mancini 1.6 Roller Rockers, Smith Bros Push Rods, Holley Street Dominator, TTI 1 7/8 Ceramic Coated Headers, 6 quart Hemi pan, 391 gears. Have not made my mind up on a Carb yet. T-56 Magnum 6-speed from SST with Hydraulic Clutch.

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Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2357968
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I started the project, and funds dried up.
I got all the top end, Lunati Voodoo Solid Roller cam #40230732LK. 273/279 adv. 243/249 @ 0.050" Duration, 0.578"/585" lift @ 1.5:1 ratio,
110 LSA, 106 ICL. 0.61653"/0.624" @ 1.6:1 rocker ratio. 0.016" lash.

Trick Flow TFS-6161T784-C00 Heads. Had the heads checked out and flowed and they were good to bolt on out of the box and flowed almost exactly as advertised. Using the TF recommended HS 1.6:1 rocker arms.

This will be on a 505" stroked 440, with the 27cc dished pistons (around 10:1 compression.)

I figure this should be close to 600 HP?
Using the Holley Street Dominator for hood clearance, so it might cost some power? and also using the FI Tech Go EFI 8 Power Adder Plus 1200 Fuel Injection.

I don't think the 215 wide BFG street tires will last too long smile

Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: 451Mopar] #2358018
08/22/17 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted By 451Mopar
I started the project, and funds dried up.
I got all the top end, Lunati Voodoo Solid Roller cam #40230732LK. 273/279 adv. 243/249 @ 0.050" Duration, 0.578"/585" lift @ 1.5:1 ratio,
110 LSA, 106 ICL. 0.61653"/0.624" @ 1.6:1 rocker ratio. 0.016" lash.

Trick Flow TFS-6161T784-C00 Heads. Had the heads checked out and flowed and they were good to bolt on out of the box and flowed almost exactly as advertised. Using the TF recommended HS 1.6:1 rocker arms.

This will be on a 505" stroked 440, with the 27cc dished pistons (around 10:1 compression.)

I figure this should be close to 600 HP?
Using the Holley Street Dominator for hood clearance, so it might cost some power? and also using the FI Tech Go EFI 8 Power Adder Plus 1200 Fuel Injection.

I don't think the 215 wide BFG street tires will last too long smile


Even 275 drag radials have problems with this type of combo on the street. Brutal torque!


'63 Dodge 330

11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.

9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.

Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: carter] #2361156
08/28/17 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By carter
512ci sitting in a bone stock E-body, 3860 with driver. This is my weekend cruiser that see a track once or twice a year. Beting on it for two summers since I built it, old school and simpel.

4.25 x 4.375. B-block
TF 240 OOTB. 802-COO
10.4:1
Holley 850 DP (4781)
Holley SD intake with 1" open spacer
MP .528 with 1.6 rockers
6 Quarter "Hemi pan"
MP Dist 18°/36°
Carter mech fuel pump with 3/8" original fuel line
TTI 1 7/8 headers with full 3" exhaust

T/A 10" converter flash 4400 rpm

Rear 3.91 and 9x28 slicks

Engine has plenty of vacuum for my factory PDB and sound "stock". Best ET so far is 7.29 x 94 MPH.
I hope for one more day at the track so I can do some more adjustments before I change camshaft.


I had the opportunity to take my car to the track this saturday. Last time I was at the track I remember to check out my A/F gauge the last pass and It was lean on WOT.
Now I made tree passes and every time I put in bigger jets and it responded with higher Mph.
New best is 7.19@95.61

Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2361517
08/29/17 12:40 AM
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They seem to be okay. The owner has never even driven the car yet, but, .030" over 440, 3.75 stock stroke. 9.9:1 compression, six pack, 590 HP and 574 lb-ft all before 6,000 rpm. 574 lb-ft @ 3,500 rpm and 502 lb-ft @ 6,100 rpm. I think it will move the Road Runner if he ever starts and goes someplace with it. Busy making it pretty.

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Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2361523
08/29/17 12:58 AM
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It would be interesting to see a set of 240's used on a high cr stock stroke race type build with a high rpm intake manifold to see where the peaks occur.


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Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: fast68plymouth] #2361686
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
It would be interesting to see a set of 240's used on a high cr stock stroke race type build with a high rpm intake manifold to see where the peaks occur.

Based on the TF 240 CSA measurements that were posted HERE, I'd say it's going to be RPM-limited comparable to a non-MW Stage VI port.

Where did you see the peaks for the bracket Stage VI combos you built in the past? I know my "less serious" stock-stroke build was 6300-6400 for HP and 5000-5200 for torque.

Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: fast68plymouth] #2361689
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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
It would be interesting to see a set of 240's used on a high cr stock stroke race type build with a high rpm intake manifold to see where the peaks occur.


On the dyno my 470 was still pulling and making power at 7000 w/the standard port window RPM's w/around 228 cc intakes and I too am curious about where they would peak w/a fairly stout solid roller........... thumbs


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Re: Trick Flow 240 users [Re: dartman366] #2361698
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I built a 13:1 rb451 with 300cfm rpm heads that made peak tq at 5800, peak hp at 7000...... Be curious to see how similarly built motor using the 240's would turn out.


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