Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
[Re: RylisPro]
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04/16/17 01:25 PM
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Sidewall flex is only way a tire hits a leaf spring. It would take a ton of it to flex that far from the ground. The spring itself is incapable of moving towards the tire, with those ubolts holding it to the axle and stuff.
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
[Re: 72Swinger]
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04/16/17 03:21 PM
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I would agree in this application, and I would do the same as the OP, but in a drag application, tire shake I would bet, would allow contact, to what harm I have little idea.
I'm with Helmuth Hübener, and no soup is being served today.
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
[Re: RylisPro]
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04/17/17 06:55 PM
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Rylispro-- T/Anks for sharing your pics, etc... 315 square is awesome and what's needed in these latest years top be equal to many other similar classed pony cars... old or late years.
Your leafs are relocated inboard ~1"?
Also, now your front insides of the tires will hit the frame rail a bit more quickly.. correct?
I think you're gonna have to tuck/slightly pull your lips. Also, maybe time to step up to bigger TBs... 1.22 readily avlbl from FF, or request 1.24 from FF. (I run 1.24 TBs)
My 275-45-16s on 10" wide rims will resort to Hoosier A/R 7s.... and that places me in certain allowable classes (E/SP for SCCA Solo II, and some HSAX classes locally).
Mopar Mitch
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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04/18/17 05:02 AM
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Hey Mitch! I agree and just wanted to show that our cars can be just as competitive as the Chevys and Fords. There should be more Mopars on the road course and hopefully this will inspire more owners to mount wide ass tires & actually drive their cars at their local track days, not just show off at a boring car show. Yes my leafs are relocated inboard but at 1.5". Dr. Diff has a kit. My front inside tires never hit at all as there is tons of room available. This is the driver front with the steering at full lock to the right. The rear inside tire is another story as that always rubbed but only during U turns. There is very minimal damage. Here is driver side Here is passenger side. As you can see it basically just took off the paint from the frame and thats it. Here is the inside of my old front tires. Light horizontal scratches on the shoulder of the tire but no major damage anywhere. I have more camber wear than anything else and these 295's are about 4 years old with lots of miles and a bunch of track days on them. I'm thinking the 315's will just take off more paint and maybe get some extra wear on the shoulder so not a big deal. The front fender lips are already folded over and I may just need a little more neg camber for it to clear. The rears are untouched and I will fold them up if needed.
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
[Re: RylisPro]
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04/18/17 08:09 PM
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AlexP what wheels are you running. Also what size width and offset. I'm looking at 285 or 295 square on 18" diameter wheel on my 68 GTX.
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
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04/30/17 12:09 AM
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AlexP what wheels are you running. Also what size width and offset. I'm looking at 285 or 295 square on 18" diameter wheel on my 68 GTX. http://www.americanmuscle.com/charcoal-amr-18x9-0512.htmlThese at 6.18 BS with a 1" spacer all around. I bought them on sale for $69 each and used a high quality bolt on adapter to space them out. I want to try to end up where Ariel is....
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
[Re: RylisPro]
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04/30/17 05:52 PM
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If anyone needs assistance on getting wide tire widths under their cars, please let me know! I am here to help! I want 315's on all 4 corners of my Dart. Make it happen!
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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I'm sure it could be done. When there is a will there is a way. Wasn't there a purple dart that autocrossed that was running 305/30-19s? Not sure if in front though? If you take a tape measure and find the distance from the frame to the edge of a front inner fender that shows how much room you have to work with. An E-body should be about 19 inches. I don't know for a A or B body but maybe someone can chime in? The rears should be easy as drag racers stuff wide slicks in back of A-bodies all the time. A 315 tire is physically about 13 wide so that gives about 3 inches per side of the tire to rotate left and right in an E-body. They key is a wheel that centers the tire exactly in the middle of the inner frame and inner fender edge. If anyone is gonna make a 315 square setup A-body its gonna be you Samy!
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
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04/30/17 06:27 PM
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I'm sure it could be done. When there is a will there is a way. Wasn't there a purple dart that autocrossed that was running 305/30-19s? Not sure if in front though? If you take a tape measure and find the distance from the frame to the edge of a front inner fender that shows how much room you have to work with. An E-body should be about 19 inches. I don't know for a A or B body but maybe someone can chime in? The rears should be easy as drag racers stuff wide slicks in back of A-bodies all the time. A 315 tire is physically about 13 wide so that gives about 3 inches per side of the tire to rotate left and right in an E-body. They key is a wheel that centers the tire exactly in the middle of the inner frame and inner fender edge. If anyone is gonna make a 315 square setup A-body its gonna be you Samy! That's Tom's old Valiant you're referring to. I've seen it run. He had fender flares that pushed his fender out about 2-3". I believe his leaf springs were in the stock location. It can be done, springs would probably have to come in and fenders would have to go out. I just don't have time right now. Lol.
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
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08/10/17 05:32 PM
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I'm unable to view any of your posted pics. Can you recap your plan with hard numbers, BS, Dia, Tire size aspect/dia/brand/model, You are looking for a group buy on a single size wheel offering? I just wore out a square set 295/35/18 on my DD Tacoma. I liked them a lot, and am toying around upgrading some of the rest of my fleet(? ), the $1500/wheel though if true, is not a path I'd like to take, but would entertain its consideration, maybe.
I'm with Helmuth Hübener, and no soup is being served today.
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
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08/10/17 05:59 PM
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Hey jcc, Photobucket wants to charge $400 a year for their 3rd party hosting and I'm too lazy to move my pics haha sorry. Since each Forgeline wheel order would be specific to the customers needs it will be each an individual order. I just need to place a order of 5 sets to get a big discount off the website pricing. Any monoblock/competition wheel style, any size/width, any offset, any standard finish. http://www.forgeline.com/main-products/competition-series/
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Re: 315 Square setup E-body `Cuda
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08/10/17 09:38 PM
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jcc
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I hear you on the $400 nonsense, you are not alone it seems, do mind sharing what you are thinking about getting?
I'm with Helmuth Hübener, and no soup is being served today.
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