Re: 440 source heads
[Re: Wedgeman]
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fast68plymouth
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The calculated flow for the curtain area of a 2.14 valve, .100 lift @ 100% c/d(like flowing a straight tube)is right about 100cfm.
Typical c/d at low lifts is 60-80%.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: 440 source heads
[Re: fast68plymouth]
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08/04/17 04:33 PM
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krautrock
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The calculated flow for the curtain area of a 2.14 valve, .100 lift @ 100% c/d(like flowing a straight tube)is right about 100cfm.
Typical c/d at low lifts is 60-80%. that said, it seems the flow #'s from the facebook pic grab could start at .200" lift... or bench could need calibration, really no telling without more info..
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Re: 440 source heads
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08/04/17 05:00 PM
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BradH
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that said, it seems the flow #'s from the facebook pic grab could start at .200" lift...
or bench could need calibration, really no telling without more info.. Here are the full curve comparisons... Larry Smith's posted #s assuming the lowest #s are .100": .100" - 120 .200" - 177 .300" - 239 .400" - 282 .500" - 312 .600" - 324 Or, assuming the lowest #s are .200" (which I don't believe to be the situation): .200" - 120 .300" - 177 .400" - 239 .500" - 282 .600" - 312 .700" - 324 MCH's CNC Stealth program advertised #: .100" - 75.0 .200" - 156.7 .300" - 219.8 .400" - 266.2 .500" - 298.8 .600" - 314.9 .700" - 320.7 I can't add anything more to this topic, and still question the bench calibration or some other condition that's resulting in unrealistic low-lift #s. Regardless, carry on with your bad self!
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Re: 440 source heads
[Re: Wedgeman]
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fast68plymouth
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My total guess is...... There's a leak, causing the big low lift numbers.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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Re: 440 source heads
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This is what I got out of my Super Stealths on my bench OOTB .200 140 .300 202 .400 242 .500 256 .600 267 .700 267 after .200 157 .300 217 .400 264 .500 290 .600 314 .700 335 .800 345
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI 512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim 2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: 440 source heads
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08/04/17 09:44 PM
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therocks
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Mine have been on since they came out.They get beat on pretty good.I did change springs,retainers, and keepers because i run a 588 solid cam and 4 speed.My machinist did some clean up and like the look.He was a perfectionist.Happy with them and i needed straight plugs for my dome pistons.Rocky
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Re: 440 source heads
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08/05/17 11:48 AM
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fast68plymouth
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I know flow bench #s can't be compared DIRECTLY, but when they're using a common calibration standard you can expect they're going to be REASONABLY close. Case in point....... I flowed one of the MCH CNC ported stealths about 5 years ago..... .100---72 .200--159 .300--220 .400--266 .500--293 .600--309 .700--313 The thing that's almost never mentioned, and would have more of an impact on the higher lift flow, especially as the flow numbers get bigger......is the shape of the radius for the air inlet. This can result in a 1-3% difference in flow(or more if its a particularly bad one) on the same head, on the same bench.
68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads
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