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Re: Cam selection questions [Re: ahy] #2357893
08/21/17 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted By ahy
I think anything over 235 or so degrees at .050" will be plenty "lumpy". What will be nice to drive? Also not beat up the valvetrain too much for street driving?

I think the Lunati at 243 degrees duration fits the bill. Would probably do OK with stock Eddy springs also.

FWIW, I run an "MM lobe" 243 @ .050" duration and .55 lift on a 496 and like it. It works OK with power brakes also... much more cam would not.


I ran a "MM Lobe" 259 @ .050 and .585 lift in my 470 and I liked it a lot. I did add a vacuum canister for the power brakes though. I'm probably going to put that cam back in the 496 when it's done.


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Re: Cam selection questions [Re: Sledge_57] #2358040
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I won't be running power brakes so that is not a concern.

Re: Cam selection questions [Re: 440mopar] #2358261
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I think something 255-260 with 110lsa would be perfect.

Re: Cam selection questions [Re: Sledge_57] #2358316
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Originally Posted By Sledge_57
Originally Posted By ahy
I think anything over 235 or so degrees at .050" will be plenty "lumpy". What will be nice to drive? Also not beat up the valvetrain too much for street driving?

I think the Lunati at 243 degrees duration fits the bill. Would probably do OK with stock Eddy springs also.

FWIW, I run an "MM lobe" 243 @ .050" duration and .55 lift on a 496 and like it. It works OK with power brakes also... much more cam would not.


I ran a "MM Lobe" 259 @ .050 and .585 lift in my 470 and I liked it a lot. I did add a vacuum canister for the power brakes though. I'm probably going to put that cam back in the 496 when it's done.
were both of these speced by muscle motors? and are they on a 112 lsa? the 259@.050 cam looks like the cam in my 470 from muscle motors. i am happly with it, but i think i would have rather called up dwayne and got what he sugested

Re: Cam selection questions [Re: Runner] #2358339
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If anyone else has an opinion on the three cams I listed above I would appreciate it. My engine guy is at the point of the build where he needs to install the cam next and I need to get one ordered by tomorrow morning. Thanks in advance.

Re: Cam selection questions [Re: 440mopar] #2358350
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I can say it enough call dwayne porter at porter racing heads and order up what ever he thinks. You will not be disappointed. The thing i like most about dwayne is he listens to what you want, how you want the car to act and he is honest about expectations.

Re: Cam selection questions [Re: Runner] #2358452
08/23/17 03:58 AM
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were both of these speced by muscle motors? and are they on a 112 lsa? the 259@.050 cam looks like the cam in my 470 from muscle motors. i am happly with it, but i think i would have rather called up dwayne and got what he suggested


Yes the 259@.050 was, my 470 was also built by MM and I think that was their cam of choice for a lot of those 470's

A shame Mike's closing shop, I wanted them to build my new engine...


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Re: Cam selection questions [Re: 440mopar] #2358540
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for a motor like this, and i think i will do the same for a 451 i'm going to build.
i would be thinking about a solid cam around 245*@.050 on a 112 lsa, using the ford lobes from howards.
if hydro, i'd do more like 240*@.050 and that would put lift in the .550 range with the howards ford lobes.

but i would call Dwayne for his input and probably order it from him...

Re: Cam selection questions [Re: 440mopar] #2359483
08/25/17 05:15 AM
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I would have responded sooner but my computer has had issues from last Saturday until this evening whiney
I don't like wide LSA angles on BB Mopars with stock type heads or a motor that will not be RPM above 7000 RPM regularly down
On your deal for maximum power and idle sound I would choose either the next to largest at .050 or the largest one you listed and have it ground on either a 108 or 106 LSA and install it 3 to 6 degrees advanced on the intake lobes up twocents
The only time I look at using anything wider than 110 LSA on a BB Mopar V8 is on a power brake car up
My next pump gas stroker motor will have a solid roller lifter cam ground on a 105 LSA installed from 99 to 101 ATDC on the intake lobes with 260 @ .050 or a tiny bit larger duration at .050 devil grin


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