Re: RHS INDY 360X heads!!
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It's pretty funny to see the negative report from Hughes on these heads. On my 2000, I broke a valve spring so instead of spending $500 on stock heads (valve job, resurface, new valve, new springs, seals, etc), I opted for the new Indy heads. I got the 2.02 version. I didn't notice much difference but the top end does pull harder. However, my motor has the stock cam, exh manifolds, so it is begging for a cam! Basically, when it comes rebuild time, I will have all the head I need.
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Re: RHS INDY 360X heads!!
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07/17/09 03:45 PM
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just got the stock roller cam in my roller 318 reground by bullet cams, 259 adv dur, 208 at .050, 127 at .2, .316" lift on both the intake and exhaust. it's in a 9:1 engine with ported by me magnum heads, 1 5/8" headers, eddie 600, and eddie RPM air gap intake. I'll let you know how it runs once I get it together and fired up...
was $125 to regrind, and had I been more patient, it woulda been about $30 round trip shipping.
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Re: RHS INDY 360X heads!!
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07/18/09 02:14 PM
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i did from their catalog. they wanted to spec something 10+ degrees bigger, and this is going into a heavy car, and I want my powerband to be from idle-5500
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Re: RHS INDY 360X heads!!
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07/20/09 10:26 AM
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Quote:
"However, if we can't install a taller spring they are pretty much useless."
So you can't use a longer valve?
Thats what everyone is asking, why not a .100 or so longer valve?
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Re: RHS INDY 360X heads!!
[Re: mrsmallblock]
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07/20/09 12:15 PM
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"Because at some point...it really starts to mess up valve train geometry." Too bad nobody's figured out how to address that... With a little work in terms of valve job, valves, and springs/hardware, from what I saw, these heads should be able to reach the level of a stage 2 ported RPM for $500-700 less. There's a ton of potential there and it's too bad you are being negative about them. Saying otherwise makes Hughes look.. well.. stupid for lack of a better term. I had a good look at them in Carlisle on Thursday with Sam.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: RHS INDY 360X heads!!
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07/20/09 12:49 PM
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Ah. I don't think I misread. I read it as "the head as it sits is useless". I tedn to disagree with that initially. And, I'd think if you were really interested in marketing them, you guys might be instrumental in helping addres the design. As "for instance", replacing the valves with long Chevy valves w/ 11/32 stems and spacing up the pedestals on the MA-X or using shaft support block and doing something similar on the LA-Xs. I'm not positive those would both work, but it seems less pessemistic to say "we're helping work on it" than to say "They're usless and we'll wait for Indy/RHS to try and fix it." If it was my perception I apologize.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: RHS INDY 360X heads!!
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Ah. I don't think I misread. I read it as "the head as it sits is useless". I tedn to disagree with that initially. And, I'd think if you were really interested in marketing them, you guys might be instrumental in helping addres the design. As "for instance", replacing the valves with long Chevy valves w/ 11/32 stems and spacing up the pedestals on the MA-X or using shaft support block and doing something similar on the LA-Xs. I'm not positive those would both work, but it seems less pessemistic to say "we're helping work on it" than to say "They're usless and we'll wait for Indy/RHS to try and fix it." If it was my perception I apologize.
yeah, I guess to me it seems pretty easy, especially on the magnum side, why can't you just space the rocker pedestals up a like amount as the added valve length? or 90% of aftermarket magnum rockers dump the pedestals for studs anyway.....
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Re: RHS INDY 360X heads!!
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Hughes, so these heads are better then the iron ram 2.02 heads?
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