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Re: Front End Issues Continue to Haunt Me [Re: Sport440] #232248
02/25/09 09:18 AM
02/25/09 09:18 AM
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south central,Pa
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I didnt mean to single you out, Just trying to pass a little info along from what ive learned with my car.

Ive been working and honing issues on my R/P car since 96. Im finally starting to figure things out. mike




Hey Mike,
No problem. Been messing with mine for a few years too. When you get it straightened out, you will love how it drives. Good luck.

Re: Front End Issues Continue to Haunt Me [Re: mopar_to_ya] #232249
02/25/09 10:23 AM
02/25/09 10:23 AM
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Romeo MI
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I can see part of your problem in your pic. First is
the distance from the centerline of the ball joint to
the centerline of the tire.... we will say thats 3"
and as you apply the brakes it wants to torque back
and now it has a 3" moment arm. We all use wheels that
tend to hang past the ball joint centerline. Now look
at the distance from the steering arm to the centerline
of the outer tie rod end with that spacer in there....
with the bolt. I know that bolt isnt a press fit
into both parts. As the brakes apply the tire tries
to move rearward torquing on the steering arm and
finding the slop in the bolt to the sreering and
heim plus the distance between the 2 parts

Re: Front End Issues Continue to Haunt Me [Re: Sport440] #232250
02/25/09 10:32 AM
02/25/09 10:32 AM
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Colorado,U.S.A
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Mopar to ya, Just from your pics, your tie rod angle is wrong in relationship to the lower control arm.

It either needs to be raised at the inner pivot point or dropped at the outer pivot point, or a combination of both. Just my opinion from the pics. A full view of both the inner and outer pivot points would be better for me to judge.

But no doubt, you have bump steer issues or issues as you already know. mike




Mine is a little different(new style ?). Mine is a 70 , 10 inch drum spindle. I wouldn't mind trying a different strut rod that's more solid, and a 2.25 offset wheel.

Re: Front End Issues Continue to Haunt Me [Re: 4404dart] #232251
02/25/09 11:36 AM
02/25/09 11:36 AM
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New Lenox IL
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I agree with mopar to ya that lil demon's problem starts with the DARE K frame that he put LRT's steering arms on!
I had the shutdown shimmy in the past.
We found that I had the wrong strut bushings. Put the right bushings in and at the same time put the new design arms. (they are also shorter=better steer radius)
I wanted the newer and lighter Weld 2.0 wheels so I got 2.25 backspace instead of 1.75 I had!
This was done in the winter so I didn't test if any 1 change solved the shimmy problem.
Later this year I may be able to put the 1.75 BS wheels on and see if that makes a difference.
I have NO BRAKE SHIMMY NOW!! I can't say which change other than the bushings did it. Don

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