Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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A commonly available 16" size is 255-50-16 from various tire brands.... BFG G-Force T/As are what I run on for my street/hwy/HSAX/HPDE events... decent performance... but 340 tread wear rating... your mileage may vary.... I have vintage mini-light rims 16x8 ("Performance" brand, from Australia).
For my serious pylon AX or road course HSAX competition events, I've run Hoosier A6 275-45-16 tires (DOT) on my lt-wt Centerline 16x10 rims front/rear... will eventually get a new set A7 or R7. Hoosiers stick like glue... only issue is classifications allowed, as well as limited lifetime wear (roughly 60 minutes, 120-180 minutes at best max time on tracks).
BUT, perhaps somewhere in my future will be set of 18x10-11s to run the popular 200 tread wear rated tires... at least 275- or else go for 315- front and rear (squared).... $$$$ overall!!!
Mopar Mitch
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Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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Pretty easy to source on Summit. Give it a search. Road wheels will be a bit heavy. I'm a big fan of AERO wheels as they make a lightweight steel wheel; however they only go to 15. I seem to remember one of the circle track wheel companies making a lightweight 16" race wheel, but I can't remember which one.
So i'm NOT the only one!? Was there a disco'd class that ran 16"? Anyways, i'm NOT out to use 16" specifically... I just found a sick deal on some like-new 16" 295's. These are H-rated too. I like that size. Until i can afford some 18's i want 295/15's on my car. Just figured the tires are cheap enough that maybe with the extra cost ov some cheap rims i still might be ahead. Otherwise i need to find another pair ov 295/50/15 BFG's to match my only pair, to go on my existing 15x8" rims. If there are no cheap/easily found 16x8-9" rims around, this is pointless.
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Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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Summit Racing has plenty of wheels all around $100 each. Yup... and anything that is not a stock car rim (and 15") is a truck/4x4 rim... and they START at 28lbs. Some are over 30. Cannot do it. Conquest rims would work, but they're not exactly easy to find, and the ones i've seen are priced too high. I have a friend with one, and he's obsessed with them. He said dont bother. Plus, they'd not look right on an old car. I'd not be averse to swapping bolt patterns, but honestly, theres more out there for a Mustang than a Camaro/Vette, and cheaper. Plus, the GM stuff has even worse offsets for old cars. Thought maybe there might be a cheap 16" rim on American Muscle, but their stuff starts at 17". But at the end ov the day, building a car around ONE random set ov 295/50/16's i found on CL is a stupid idea. If there was a cheap, readily available rim (that didn't weigh 30lbs) then fine, but thats as far as this idea goes. Back to the 295/50-15 junk i go... Anyone local got a decent pair ov BFG's they wanna part with?
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Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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The trifecta of cheap, light, and wide aren't going to come together for this one deal in a short time frame.
Before pursuing it any further, I'd see what normal retail of the wide 16" tires is, as the rim size will lock you into it's use for the future. If the tires can be picked up at a reasonable price at normal retail, then it might be worth the expense of rims.
Cheap - used Crown Vic, Jeep, or Mustang but too narrow for a 295. Light - Competition rims, but not necessarily not cheap if shipped. Wide - Aftermarket, but necessarily cheap nor light.
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Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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Summit Racing has plenty of wheels all around $100 each. Yup... and anything that is not a stock car rim (and 15") is a truck/4x4 rim... and they START at 28lbs. Some are over 30. Cannot do it. Conquest rims would work, but they're not exactly easy to find, and the ones i've seen are priced too high. I have a friend with one, and he's obsessed with them. He said dont bother. Plus, they'd not look right on an old car. I'd not be averse to swapping bolt patterns, but honestly, theres more out there for a Mustang than a Camaro/Vette, and cheaper. Plus, the GM stuff has even worse offsets for old cars. Thought maybe there might be a cheap 16" rim on American Muscle, but their stuff starts at 17". But at the end ov the day, building a car around ONE random set ov 295/50/16's i found on CL is a stupid idea. If there was a cheap, readily available rim (that didn't weigh 30lbs) then fine, but thats as far as this idea goes. Back to the 295/50-15 junk i go... Anyone local got a decent pair ov BFG's they wanna part with? https://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/are-vn2156867/overview/
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Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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Hmmm... How'd i miss that? I'm GUESSING that its gonna be a heavy wheel. DOT is going to add weight. Regardless, i've already found some 295 50 15's for my existing rims. I thought finding some cheap light 16" rims might be a quick fix, but it seems everything but. Sticking with 15's, and sh!te tires until i can grab something in 18". I REALLY wish you could get a performance tire in 15".
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Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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Be SURE you get the correct backspacing! FWD and later RWD cars have front hub bearings assemblies rather than the front wheel bearings of prior RWD car. This affects backspacing and resulting fitment , even with the correct bolt pattern. The wheel pictured above appears to be a FWD wheel. Many racing wheels might not have enough reserve "guts" for street use, other than on smooth pavement with no potholes or such. A friend had a set of lite-weight wheels on a Mustang LX 5.0L coupe he had. He ventured into a ritzy part of town one night and found a pothole (??!!) that bent the wheel. His dad was a city councilman for a neighboring city and a new wheel was paid for by the "pothole" city. You're worried about wheel weight, understandably as that can affect ride quality, but also consider the complete wheel/tire assembly weight too. There are some 17" tire sizes which have similar revs/mile as some 15" sizes. I've been looking at that myself as I seek to find something lighter than the heavy 15x7 factory wheels on a non-Mopar car I have, and the P225.70R-15 Radial T/As on it. There are several 17" sizes which closely-approximate the revs/mile spec of the current tires. The revs/mile specs can be found in the respective tire charts at www.tirerack.com, usually. Might need to check different tire brands, but they are usually there. If "rotational weight" is an issue, an aluminum or composite drive shaft might be an alternative. CBODY67
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Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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You might look for some used dura-lite rims. They were 3 piece and not very expensive back in the '80s, many Solo2 and road racers ran them. A common size was 16"x10" I used a set of 16x10 stock car style wheels for years on my time trial car, they are very heavy if it matters! Try Circle, or Diamond, they may still make 'em. But yeah, if you can't find any cheap 16s, 18s are the way to go! And almost anything will work better than those T/As!
Sorry you didn't notice my post from 4/20 about Diamond wheels!
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Re: ANY clever ideas on a cheap, light (???) 16" rim...???
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You might look for some used dura-lite rims. They were 3 piece and not very expensive back in the '80s, many Solo2 and road racers ran them. A common size was 16"x10" I used a set of 16x10 stock car style wheels for years on my time trial car, they are very heavy if it matters! Try Circle, or Diamond, they may still make 'em. But yeah, if you can't find any cheap 16s, 18s are the way to go! And almost anything will work better than those T/As!
Sorry you didn't notice my post from 4/20 about Diamond wheels! Oh i saw it, but you lost me at "very heavy". The 15's i have in mind are 19lbs. I just thought a similar rim in 16" might be just a hair over 20... but nope. I have zero interest in a 25lb rim (further, the 16's i found on Ebay were over 30!!!). I just sold my last set ov Ramcharger 15x8" steelies (that i could have used my redline caps on), because they were too heavy. I'm going 18" as soon as i find that big bag o money i've been looking for on the side ov the road. Until then... its 15x8", lightweight steel and sh!t 295 50 15 BFG radial TA's. Unfortunately.
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