Re: Space saver date code help needed
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04/21/17 03:01 PM
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That's what it boils down to, you are restoring a car to what the judges will be looking for. And unless there is a published judging standards guide, you won't know for sure what the judge is looking for until your car gets judged and you get to review what you got dinged for on the judging sheet. Saddest part is that the judges aren't always right, and even a judging guide, if published, may not be 100% correct, so you may have to do something incorrectly in order to "win"!
Check out my car show and cruise photo albums here: Show PicsSeeking info on a Mr Norms sold T/A VIN JH23J0B308737. Does it still exist?
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Re: Space saver date code help needed
[Re: Convertcuda]
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04/21/17 06:40 PM
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Morty426 is so correct. Worked in Automotive manufacturing all my working life. I worked in the Rim and Tire room for about 7 years in a row. We had about 1/4 of a skid of spare rims sit on a lift to be picked for three years with none being used. It was to far down the line for the workers and no one moved it to the easier spot that the rims should be. After three years of walking by these spare tire rims I got it moved to were the worker could pick the rims and put them on the line to have tires mount. In 35 years when someone wants to restore these vehicles they will say that their build date is three years after the dates on the rims and will be shaking their head trying to figure it out. The longer a plant uses the same material the longer extra parts lay around and sometimes they get found and put on the line months and years later.
I also bought a spare rim with tire not to long ago. It is an Orange rim and the owner that I bought it from said if was original from his 1971 Challenger trunk. I really only wanted the tire to change over to Black Chrysler spare rim. After I bought this I talked to another person that said he had the same thing with his 1971 Challenger Convetible an orange spare rim. I always thought these rims were for a AMC but maybe there was a time in 1971 that Rims got screwed up and Chrysler got these rims and used them. I still do not believe that the orange rims were in the trunk of a 1971 Challenger Convertible but who knows.
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Re: Space saver date code help needed
[Re: Convertcuda]
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04/21/17 11:03 PM
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The date on the orange rim would be interesting to know...
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Re: Space saver date code help needed
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04/23/17 12:22 PM
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I will have to go out and see if I still have the Orange Rim. I know I still have a Ford Spare Rim with a bad tire laying around and will look at that rim also.
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Re: Space saver date code help needed
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04/25/17 08:40 PM
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Orange Rim
Beside the valve stem has two opening one with a white cap on the one with an outer thread. Rim has 11 on the left and 5.0 on the right, 5.0 likely the rim width. Can not see any other stamps around the valve stem. The rim looks like the kind that has the raised spots around the wheel stud holes much like a 66-69 rims have. There is no flat area around the wheel stud holes. The rim is Orange only on the outside of the rim and black on the backside. There also is BF Goodrich stick on the rim telling you how to put it on and inflate it. On those Raise parts of the rim between the wheel stud holes there are stampings SH and M and 11 and the other could be K1 or K2 or K3 with a 4 under it. The number after the K might mean the year. I believe the tires size that was on the rim was F78-14 and under this number it said replaces 7.75-14. I do not think it is a Chrysler rim but weird things happen and who know if they just shipped AMC rim to Chrysler by mistake or some other reason and they got used up. This rim I think is an AMC rim but someone else might know.
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Re: Space saver date code help needed
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04/25/17 11:30 PM
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I believe we had this talk in our many travels in my truck Mr.M.The tire is a F78-14 like I told you last year, when you asked if it was a E, we both said that was a Chevy size an E. Next I am going to go and look at the piece of crap out in my scrap bin that I believe if off a Mustang and has a tire on it a 78-14 I believe and will write down all the stampings and stuff. Ya I have not got my Camera fixed yet to take a picture of these rims. The Mopar spare rims you and I bought years ago are 5.5s. I still need to drive to your house and have all those Spare tires and rims changed around, but who needs a spare tire when you are running 14x32s and 3 inch wide skinnys on the front. Dont have to worry about Disc brakes either, Challenger does have that luxury, four wheel drums. I will one day have to try this Orange rim that I believe is an AMC Rim on a Disc Brake E Body to see if it will go over the caliper.
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Re: Space saver date code help needed
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04/26/17 01:03 AM
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D78-14 AMC, F78-14 Mopar, Ford and the orange rim I have and some others, E78-14 Chevy and Ford. Might be other Manufactures that fall into each size or tire. This is just a bit of information I came across on the net in the last 30 minutes. Seems like other brand X groups are having some of the same questions come up with this type of Spare tires and rims.
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Re: Space saver date code help needed
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04/26/17 01:31 AM
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The other rim that looks a lot like a Ford Rim has a yellow sticker on it that is very hard to read but I can not find a Auto manufacture on the label. It is a rusty rim and I do not see any stampings on it. The tire is F78-14. It has in big letter on the tire Temporary Use Only. Also has two valve stems maybe two inches apart. I was told it came out of a Mustang.
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