Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 5 1 2 3 4 5
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2231244
01/10/17 12:13 AM
01/10/17 12:13 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
M
mopar muscle7271 Offline OP
Easily triggered
mopar muscle7271  Offline OP
Easily triggered
M

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
I had the electronic ignition box tested at autozone they had a tester it came back bad.i could still test for the resistor and switch.

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2231246
01/10/17 12:14 AM
01/10/17 12:14 AM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Progress! looking good. EDIT I'd get the new ECU in & see what happens. Standard Motor Products used to make a good American made parts house ECU but it is made in China now (iirc it is $25).

Last edited by RapidRobert; 01/10/17 01:38 AM.

live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: RapidRobert] #2231870
01/10/17 09:52 PM
01/10/17 09:52 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
M
mopar muscle7271 Offline OP
Easily triggered
mopar muscle7271  Offline OP
Easily triggered
M

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
I had lifetime warranty on the ecm box.i got another one.i did more testing its failing the ability of the module to control coil and the capability of coil by actual firing.im thinking the coil is bad.

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2231879
01/10/17 10:12 PM
01/10/17 10:12 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Lets do this, hook everything back up & hold the coil secondary wire (dist end) 1/4" away from the intake (ground) and with the dist pickup zigzag pull apart connector seperated, drag the male tip end of the body half across the intake surface (ground) & see if the coil wire sparks (do it with key on and with key held to start with the yellow wire terminal pulled off of the "ign" terminal on the starter relay). then reconnect the zigzag connector and remove any and all wires off of the dist neg primary post (might just be the one) and with a jumper wire connected to the coil terminal itself (not to the ring terminal you removed from it), tap tap the other alligator clip on the other end of the jumper to the intake & same thing see if the coil wire sparks (with key on & key held to crank). Holler back.


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232053
01/11/17 01:29 AM
01/11/17 01:29 AM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
Supercuda Offline
About to go away
Supercuda  Offline
About to go away

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
If the coil sparks it's not the coil, though I did have a coil that would intermittently fail when it got hot, but it failed in either mode. It would work when cooled off. Took awhile to sort it out but I got it.

Eventually you will have to break out a meter and find out what is going on.


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232082
01/11/17 02:37 AM
01/11/17 02:37 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
M
mopar muscle7271 Offline OP
Easily triggered
mopar muscle7271  Offline OP
Easily triggered
M

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
I have a meter and will test the coil and see what the reading says. It was hot when the last time i tried starting it.

Last edited by mopar muscle7271; 01/11/17 02:38 AM.
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232089
01/11/17 02:49 AM
01/11/17 02:49 AM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,849
F
fullmetaljacket Offline
master
fullmetaljacket  Offline
master
F

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,849
Try changing ECU.
It may be on its way out.

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232091
01/11/17 02:52 AM
01/11/17 02:52 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi  Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
Originally Posted By mopar muscle7271
I have a meter and will test the coil and see what the reading says. It was hot when the last time i tried starting it.


Too bad you weren't closer... I have a coil tester. grin



Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: OzHemi] #2232094
01/11/17 02:56 AM
01/11/17 02:56 AM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Neat tool, What is the gap when it gets to "super"? it would be a "cold" test. EDIT now I see the numbers for the gap

Last edited by RapidRobert; 01/11/17 02:57 AM.

live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232096
01/11/17 03:10 AM
01/11/17 03:10 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
OzHemi Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger
OzHemi  Offline
Penguin-hating Ginger

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 104,346
Garden Grove, CA
It actually has a "heat" setting that is used to heat the coil up before testing if wanted as well. up

I don't use it often, but still a kind of cool thing to have around.

Instructions on it, if you were curious..

https://ia601209.us.archive.org/12/items/HT660/HerbrandHt-660.pdf

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2232101
01/11/17 03:39 AM
01/11/17 03:39 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
M
mopar muscle7271 Offline OP
Easily triggered
mopar muscle7271  Offline OP
Easily triggered
M

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
If you read some of the post i did.

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232103
01/11/17 03:43 AM
01/11/17 03:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
Are you saying it sparks once when you turn the key off ? As it sounded like thats what you were saying at first ? No spark while cranking but a spark when the key is turned off ? I just want to be sure just what it is doing. Ron

Last edited by 383man; 01/11/17 03:44 AM.
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232116
01/11/17 04:17 AM
01/11/17 04:17 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
M
mopar muscle7271 Offline OP
Easily triggered
mopar muscle7271  Offline OP
Easily triggered
M

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
I turn the key on i have spark.when i crank the key the over to start it,i loose all spark.when i let go of key i have alittle spark again.

Last edited by mopar muscle7271; 01/11/17 04:18 AM.
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: 383man] #2232128
01/11/17 04:47 AM
01/11/17 04:47 AM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
M
mopar muscle7271 Offline OP
Easily triggered
mopar muscle7271  Offline OP
Easily triggered
M

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
when key is still in the on start position not run and not off.

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232698
01/12/17 07:38 AM
01/12/17 07:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
3
383man Offline
Too Many Posts
383man  Offline
Too Many Posts
3

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 27,421
Balt. Md
You say you turn the key on and get spark ? Now are you jumping the starter and cranking the eng with the key on to get spark or are you saying you get a (1 Spark) spark when the key is turned on ? I ask because I have seen some throw a constant continuous spark with the key on and not cranking and also just get one spark when key turned on and then off? So I want to know if you are cranking the eng by jumping the starter and/or starter relay to crank the eng with key on and see spark ? Ron

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: 383man] #2232839
01/12/17 02:42 PM
01/12/17 02:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
M
mopar muscle7271 Offline OP
Easily triggered
mopar muscle7271  Offline OP
Easily triggered
M

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
No spark when crankin engine over.only spark is when the key is on and not crankin the engine trying to start.

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2232965
01/12/17 05:23 PM
01/12/17 05:23 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 18,493
Granite Bay CA
Kern Dog Offline
Striving for excellence
Kern Dog  Offline
Striving for excellence

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 18,493
Granite Bay CA
I had the same problem intermittently in my Charger. Months would go by where it would be fine, then it would do the following: Crank, crank with no fire, then just as I release the key, it would snort and the engine would spin backwards a little as if it were ready to backfire. The wiring was original but in good condition.
I have a MP electronic ignition conversion in the car. I tried swapping spark boxes, coils, ballast resistors...It turned out to be in the distributor. The reluctor wheel had clocked out of phase. I repositioned it and replaced the magnetic pickup and have not had it happen again. This was almost 5 years ago.

Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: Kern Dog] #2232979
01/12/17 05:53 PM
01/12/17 05:53 PM
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
M
mopar muscle7271 Offline OP
Easily triggered
mopar muscle7271  Offline OP
Easily triggered
M

Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 469
las vegas,nv
Ok i replaced the distributor last year in it,maybe its bad again. I have replaced all those items.would fouled up spark plugs cause a no start as well?

Last edited by mopar muscle7271; 01/12/17 05:55 PM.
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: OzHemi] #2233039
01/12/17 07:24 PM
01/12/17 07:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
R
RapidRobert Offline
Circle Track
RapidRobert  Offline
Circle Track
R

Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 36,041
Lincoln Nebraska
Quote:
I don't use it often, but still a kind of cool thing to have around.

Instructions on it, if you were curious..

Yeah I see the heat setting on it.


live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth
Re: gettin spark for a second [Re: mopar muscle7271] #2233041
01/12/17 07:29 PM
01/12/17 07:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 18,493
Granite Bay CA
Kern Dog Offline
Striving for excellence
Kern Dog  Offline
Striving for excellence

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 18,493
Granite Bay CA
Originally Posted By mopar muscle7271
Ok i replaced the distributor last year in it,maybe its bad again. I have replaced all those items.would fouled up spark plugs cause a no start as well?


I think fouled plugs may make it harder to start, misfiring at all speeds but not a "no-start" condition unless the electrodes are burned off or there are so many deposits in there that no gap remains between the tip and electrode.

Page 2 of 5 1 2 3 4 5






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1