Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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measuring the offset for shoe size, measure from flange to back side of BP? what's specs for 10x2 or 10x2.5 ? straitedge across raised 5 hole flange then measure down to one of the (6) shoe contact rub areas. I have some regular (2&1/2" I would assume) plates I can measure later on today & for shoe size also..
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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10's and 11's are a very noticeable diameter difference. Any old 10 or 11" drum will confirm what you have. The flange measurement Robert talks about will confirm the shoe width. It might not hurt to have and old housing and axle laying around to double check the b/p fit with the drum... I've got a couple laying around I can double check if you find out what you have and maybe need a application to order everything else for...
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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My axle doesn't have backing plates on it anymore. I'm exploring making disc brakes for the rear. How thick were those backing plates? They look pretty thin in the pictures. 3/16"? 1/4"?
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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more like 3/32??? Not very thick... Just mic'd one out of curiosity 0.100... 10x2 1/2" removed from a 65 Coronet...
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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I just got .130" thickness on a 11" backing plate (I'd think all of em would very close to that dimention). You might go ahead with the rear rotors & here are some 4" SBP and 4 &1/2" BBP ones. I gotta get some oil on em before they rust further.
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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Whew. .100-.130"?! That's really thin! Makes the 1/2" and 7/16" brackets I made for the brembos on my Dakota seem like ridiculous overkill.
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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A stamped backing plate with all of the bends is much stronger than anything in a "flat plate". I'd think 1/4" in a flat plate would suffice. I know the Wilwoods I just put on the Duster are about 1/4" and are aluminum. Scratchin it definitely sounds like you have 11" backing plates...now you just need to determine which shoes and drums are correct. The magazine add above may be the way to determine that. I'm not positive from the pics but it sure looks like a deep recess from the axle flange to the back of the plate. Could be 11x2.5 or maybe even 11x3...
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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For overall rigidity, I agree. A stamped piece with contours is better than flat plate. However, when it comes to the sheer loads generated by the brakes, all that holds it from ripping away are the 5 studs pressed into the axle, and the cross section of the plate; which at .100-.130 isn't a lot of area.
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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I measured from outside flange area to shoe contact pad and get 1.5"
1.5" + 1.35" = 2.85
so is that a 2.5" or a 3" wide shoe?
I do see a set of 11x2 3/4" shoes for a c-body or truck.
would the 2.85 be a 2 3/4 wide shoes?
measure across and get 12" and subtract 1" = 11" drums
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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yes I kinda think it is a E-body housing at 56.5 flange to flange with 46" perch centers 30" axles.
the 742-3.23open with the 10 spline pinion 1330 yoke is dated 67 on the ring gear.
that chunk was an option on a 67 426/440 polara which also shares the 46" perch centers. found this looking up the 1330 u-joint.
maybe someone swapped the e-body housing in the polara. would not be that much of a difference in trac width. maybe 1" from the chart specs.
or the junkman was referring to the chunk only?
11x2.5 sound right for a BB auto/4 speed E-body but I never looked at many of those e-bodys myself to know.
IIRC I can run a 2" shoe in a 2.5 drum correct?
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Re: 8 3/4 backing plate ID?
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On a side note, I put 11x2 pads on my 11x2.5 set-up to fix my rear lockup issue. that is an interesting novel idea. & that is a problem issue. is there 10x2 shoes for the common 10x2&1/2 setup?
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