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Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: GLR] #2379451
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I also did the TanksInc set up, mine still has a carb, with a return system, EFI in the plans. hot fuel has not been a issue, & I drive this car, AC & temps over 100 deg in Southeast Texas.

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Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: Supercuda] #2379454
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
You have any sump or baffling in there to prevent the pump from sucking air?



Yes there is a sump that comes with that pump.

Very nice job there Andy. bow How did you handle the final finish? What is that?

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I'm confused. Any good engine should have a brake specific horsepower number of around 0.5 lb/hp-hour. Assuming that an engine does more poorly than that at 0.7, at 600 hp that is 420 lb/hr of gasoline. At 6.07 lb/gal for gas, that is about 70 gal/hr. Why would you need fuel delivery rates over 100 gal/hr? What am I missing?


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That tanks inc unit looks nice. They were still in development when I went with the Spectra EFI tank which is decent for the price, but I don't care for the stock type line connections.

Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: CSK] #2379498
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I would've bought a tank like that for my car but I couldn't find anyone who made one. I have a '65 Coronet and I did not have any luck finding a tank with a built in recess. Ideally I'd like to have a tank with the built in recess for the pump and have the tank be about 1 inch deeper. I think there is room in the early B body cars for a slightly deeper tank.

I might end up having a custom tank built for my car since I'd like it a bit deeper than stock but a little narrower so the 3 inch exhaust will clear. My leaf springs are moved under the frame so everything is a little tight back there. I can probably get someone to weld up a stainless tank for me if I draw up a blueprint.

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Originally Posted By 6PakBee
I'm confused. Any good engine should have a brake specific horsepower number of around 0.5 lb/hp-hour. Assuming that an engine does more poorly than that at 0.7, at 600 hp that is 420 lb/hr of gasoline. At 6.07 lb/gal for gas, that is about 70 gal/hr. Why would you need fuel delivery rates over 100 gal/hr? What am I missing?


You aren't missing anything. Most high performance street engines need less than 50 gal/hour.

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Originally Posted By Challenger 1
Originally Posted By Supercuda
You have any sump or baffling in there to prevent the pump from sucking air?



Yes there is a sump that comes with that pump.

Very nice job there Andy. bow How did you handle the final finish? What is that?


Finish is just rattle can paint. Flat black from NAPA, nothing special.

Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: jbc426] #2379502
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On the dyno my 470 engine made 750 hp and used 330 lbs/per hour max fuel flow. That works out to just a little over 50 gal/hour. That was max, most of the time it is way, way less than that.

Cruising down the freeway only takes a few hp so gal/hour is single digits.

Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: AndyF] #2379506
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Originally Posted By AndyF
Originally Posted By 6PakBee
I'm confused. Any good engine should have a brake specific horsepower number of around 0.5 lb/hp-hour. Assuming that an engine does more poorly than that at 0.7, at 600 hp that is 420 lb/hr of gasoline. At 6.07 lb/gal for gas, that is about 70 gal/hr. Why would you need fuel delivery rates over 100 gal/hr? What am I missing?


You aren't missing anything. Most high performance street engines need less than 50 gal/hour.


Thanks for the sanity check. up


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Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: AndyF] #2379508
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Originally Posted By AndyF
I would've bought a tank like that for my car but I couldn't find anyone who made one. I have a '65 Coronet and I did not have any luck finding a tank with a built in recess. Ideally I'd like to have a tank with the built in recess for the pump and have the tank be about 1 inch deeper. I think there is room in the early B body cars for a slightly deeper tank.

I might end up having a custom tank built for my car since I'd like it a bit deeper than stock but a little narrower so the 3 inch exhaust will clear. My leaf springs are moved under the frame so everything is a little tight back there. I can probably get someone to weld up a stainless tank for me if I draw up a blueprint.


Hot Rod City Garage builds very nice custom EFI tanks, I used one of theirs on customers EFI 69 Charger.


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Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: GLR] #2379510
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custom tank

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Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: GLR] #2379565
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Yeah I'm thinking I'll need to do that at some point. A custom tank will allow me to add some capacity, get a clean EFI pump install and free up some space for a big exhaust system. Kind of the key to cleaning up the whole rear portion of the car.

Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: 6PakBee] #2379628
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Originally Posted By 6PakBee
I'm confused. Any good engine should have a brake specific horsepower number of around 0.5 lb/hp-hour. Assuming that an engine does more poorly than that at 0.7, at 600 hp that is 420 lb/hr of gasoline. At 6.07 lb/gal for gas, that is about 70 gal/hr. Why would you need fuel delivery rates over 100 gal/hr? What am I missing?


It's not so much about what the pump flows.......its what the "system" flows, while maintaining the desired minimum pressure.

Many fuel pump ratings are free flow......which doesn't really tell you anything useful.


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Re: Anyone retro fit an electric in tank fuel pump? [Re: GLR] #2379909
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Im planning on using the aeromotive phantom system like Andy. Good job on the flush install.
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