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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: DaveRS23] #2234697
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Originally Posted By DaveRS23
If you want to hear some real bitching, go over to Hellcat.org. Some of those guys are fit to be tied. I guess I would be too if I was set to lose 20 large or more. And become a second class citizen behind these new models.

Of course much of that depends on how much these new models will go for and how many will be available.

Watching this play out is the next best thing to actually owning one.


It could have been way worse for current Hellcat owners,the new top dog could have come from the competition. Atleast the new top dog is still a Challenger!


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: SRT6776] #2234758
01/15/17 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Malicious�
Four 9-sec hellcats in a row at the track, incl a Charger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9_X84G5wfM

Pretty cool. Any idea what's required to make that next jump in performance from showroom stock?

Also hoping all those cars are actually legal for those ETs, but I have no way of telling from that video.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234791
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None of the motors have been broke into
Pulleys and tune. Maybe a 50 shot


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234862
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If you don't like those 9 second Hellcats......you better check your pulse. Pretty damn neat.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: toplescuda] #2234879
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Originally Posted By toplescuda
None of the motors have been broke into
Pulleys and tune. Maybe a 50 shot




Do you want your coffee (or I mean Hellcat) with 1 power adder or 2. LOL. I'll take 2 please to get this lead-sled moving.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Monte_Smith] #2234881
01/15/17 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
All the "old school" guys get butthurt so easy and want to call out showroom cars to run against their RACE cars........LOL!!!!! How about put your race car back in showroom trim and see how it stacks up.

Why can't both sides just be happy that Mopar has SOMETHING from the factory that you can call a muscle car. Doesn't anybody remember the late 70s, then the 80s and 90s, when Mopar guys were crying the factory didn't make anything to compete with Camaros and Mustangs. Now we HAVE something and you guys are STILL whining.........as one here says....."cheese and rice". Get a grip. You don't want a new car, don't buy one, it's pretty simple.

My daily driver is a Mercedes with a measly 400 hp. But it will run 165 flat out, runs pretty damn quick at the track and will take most freeway exits at 100mph, looks good, is comfortable, fun to drive and don't have to work on it. Want to see how much is involved with keeping a FAST older car road worthy, while beating on it hard? All it requires is one trip on Drag Week


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2234883
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I guess I'm in the boat where I remember the days that my friends had Zs and mudstangs and all I had was my fwd 4 banger .. I wanted mopar to make a car I could race my buddies with, a car that put up a good fight and not 20 year old iron. Don't get me wrong I love my dart my dusters etc .. And I drive the wheels off of them. But I for one am so very excited about where we are and where we came from. People complain, and that's just people no one will ever be happy no matter what mopar does. I love to drive these cars and have a blast with them. I don't care if they are N/A or got 20 power adders .. Who cares, we have something to be happy about and can hang or even out perform the other brands.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: pittsburghracer] #2235123
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By toplescuda
None of the motors have been broke into
Pulleys and tune. Maybe a 50 shot




Do you want your coffee (or I mean Hellcat) with 1 power adder or 2. LOL. I'll take 2 please to get this lead-sled moving.


Not all of them have spray, lots of them in the 9's on boost alone.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: SRT6776] #2235135
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Originally Posted By Malicious�
Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Originally Posted By toplescuda
None of the motors have been broke into
Pulleys and tune. Maybe a 50 shot




Do you want your coffee (or I mean Hellcat) with 1 power adder or 2. LOL. I'll take 2 please to get this lead-sled moving.


Not all of them have spray, lots of them in the 9's on boost alone.



Hey I raz you guys some but how can you not love these cars. Who in their right mind ever thought performance cars like this would ever hit the road again. To think that if fuel economy wasn't such a national ajenda engineers may have never headed in this direction. If I wasn't into racing like I am and loaded with both old style small and big block stuff I would own one. And who knows what tomorrow may bring. I for one can't wait to see the new Demons


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2235142
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it was always my dream that the Avenger could have been introduced rwd and equipped with the 4.7 which would have become a platform for bigger and better things.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2235177
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Wait till the vids of bone stock demons hiring the track. And you know someone won5 leave it stock.
Add a rollbar and a set of slicks. And if nothen breaks. It WILL be the talk of the town


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: Thumperdart] #2235305
01/16/17 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Originally Posted By justinp61
Dom if you can build a 10 second car that will pass emissions, get good mileage and last for 200,000 miles for less money you need to quit building carbs and start building cars. You'll be a wealthy man. biggrin


So true, n/a probably not but my "opinion" still stands...........I don't drive my Dart cos it's comfy or gets good mileage, I drive/race it because it outperforms MOST people's expectations and hauls ass for what it is............... beer


New "muscle cars" give the best of both worlds. I've had a bunch of old cars. I sold most of them. The only crude "hot rod" left in my stable is my SC Cobra replica. Kept that for the cool factor. I just sold my ZR1 because that became too crude for me after my wife got her new CTS/V. One drive in that killed it for the Vette. Believe me, Dom, drive a new car with 600+ HP and you will have trouble going back.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2235324
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Power potential for the new stuff is crazy too...

Magnuson is releasing a bigger blower for the hellcats... blower, injectors, and cat back exhaust made 870hp at the tire.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2235439
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Power potential for the new stuff is crazy too...

Magnuson is releasing a bigger blower for the hellcats... blower, injectors, and cat back exhaust made 870hp at the tire.

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: toplescuda] #2235563
01/16/17 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By toplescuda
Originally Posted By cdwmotorsports
I love the idea of the Demon coming back.



However this is just a desecration of the name Demon, it has never had anything to do with the the Challenger, why on god's green earth FCA thought this was a good idea is beyond me

Same can be said about the Daytona trucks. Or 4 door chargers for that matter. Or even a 4 door daytona/super bee charger But most don't a problem with that lol


You're exactly correct. I have a problem with every one of those too.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2235566
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They are being very smart, they have a market base on name alone.

Whos going to run down and look at the new "Dodge Ratchet"?

I wonder if the push the dart market in the 4 cylinder crowd?

Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2235582
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Look I'm not saying I wouldn't own a new muscle car. We owned a Road and Track R/T and loved it, a Hellcat is on the wish list but so is retiring in ten years and putting two kids through college. So a Hellcat is down the list quite a ways now. My 72 Demon will have to suffice for my speed itch.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2235626
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Even if we can't afford one it's nice to have something to root for.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: dannysbee] #2235637
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I am seriously thinking about one of these new supercharged monsters. But if I get one, I will likely have it for 10 or 15 years and only drive it 2,000 or 3,000 miles a year, based on my last few years with my current Cuda.

And I am concerned about the electronics holding up and the dealership's ability to deal with issues in the out years. 10 years from now, will everything electrical on these things still be working? And if they aren't, can we expect to get them diagnosed and parts supplied in a reasonable manner?

These things are totally computer dependent. And Fiat/Chrysler is notoriously tight with their info. Which could leave a guy in a real predicament. That is the only real thing holding me back from selling my Cuda and moving in on one of these monsters.


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Re: Challanger Demon [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2235694
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I seen pics of the adr challenger. And said it made 999 hp. A insider said a few went down the line last week
The adr and demon are 2 differnt cars


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