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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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I dont like drop base air clearers.. they change the direction of the air(restriction) but if you have to use them then you have no choice... just remember ALL air cleaners are a restriction.. I did a few years testing air cleaners for Chrysler  I did back to back testing at the track this summer. A K&N filtered drop base aircleaner vs. no aircleaner at all. Identical 11.41 times and mph with and without. All you people say I didnt see any change.. did you start changing jets to optimize without... no... you took it off and didnt see a change.. because you were jetted with it on If you have the room.. put a ideal entry on it and see what happens.. you WILL be adding fuel
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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I dont like drop base air clearers.. they change the direction of the air(restriction) but if you have to use them then you have no choice... just remember ALL air cleaners are a restriction.. I did a few years testing air cleaners for Chrysler I did back to back testing at the track this summer. A K&N filtered drop base aircleaner vs. no aircleaner at all. Identical 11.41 times and mph with and without. Try that w/a sealed scoop and get back w/us........
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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I dont like drop base air clearers.. they change the direction of the air(restriction) but if you have to use them then you have no choice... just remember ALL air cleaners are a restriction.. I did a few years testing air cleaners for Chrysler I did back to back testing at the track this summer. A K&N filtered drop base aircleaner vs. no aircleaner at all. Identical 11.41 times and mph with and without. I had the same results as you. I am under the stock hood and it made no difference. I did the same test with EFI and it didn't matter. I have not tried it with the bigger motor yet though.
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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I dont like drop base air clearers.. they change the direction of the air(restriction) but if you have to use them then you have no choice... just remember ALL air cleaners are a restriction.. I did a few years testing air cleaners for Chrysler I did back to back testing at the track this summer. A K&N filtered drop base aircleaner vs. no aircleaner at all. Identical 11.41 times and mph with and without. Try that w/a sealed scoop and get back w/us........ Made the pan for this summer already..
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Well my wide-band didn't see the difference, so I am sticking with my opinion.
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Well my wide-band didn't see the difference, so I am sticking with my opinion. Then your seeing turbulence over the carb.. I will say it again ALL filters are a restriction and its a proven fact... just because you didnt see any change DOESNT change the FACT that a filter isnt a restriction...
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Well my wide-band didn't see the difference, so I am sticking with my opinion. Then your seeing turbulence over the carb.. I will say it again ALL filters are a restriction and its a proven fact... just because you didnt see any change DOESNT change the FACT that a filter isnt a restriction... The real question is, is the restriction offset by the straightening/smoothing ot the airflow into the carb? How much HP difference, on average, did your testing show? Was it dynamic, real world testing or in a dyno cell?
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Well my wide-band didn't see the difference, so I am sticking with my opinion. Then your seeing turbulence over the carb.. I will say it again ALL filters are a restriction and its a proven fact... just because you didnt see any change DOESNT change the FACT that a filter isnt a restriction... The real question is, is the restriction offset by the straightening/smoothing ot the airflow into the carb? How much HP difference, on average, did your testing show? Was it dynamic, real world testing or in a dyno cell? This was on a filter flow bench... also just like guys say that the filter top is better... I've done that type of filter on the bench and at the track.. that top hurt power... I have one right now but I put a plastic cover over it.. reason why.. the 2 directions of air flow hurt the total flow.... BUT you guys do what you want
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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I dont like drop base air clearers.. they change the direction of the air(restriction) but if you have to use them then you have no choice... just remember ALL air cleaners are a restriction.. I did a few years testing air cleaners for Chrysler I did back to back testing at the track this summer. A K&N filtered drop base aircleaner vs. no aircleaner at all. Identical 11.41 times and mph with and without. Try that w/a sealed scoop and get back w/us........ Made the pan for this summer already.. 
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Well my wide-band didn't see the difference, so I am sticking with my opinion. Then your seeing turbulence over the carb.. I will say it again ALL filters are a restriction and its a proven fact... just because you didnt see any change DOESNT change the FACT that a filter isnt a restriction... On the same note, they also smooth out airflow apparently.......... 
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Well my wide-band didn't see the difference, so I am sticking with my opinion. Then your seeing turbulence over the carb.. I will say it again ALL filters are a restriction and its a proven fact... just because you didnt see any change DOESNT change the FACT that a filter isnt a restriction... On the same note, they also smooth out airflow apparently.......... Very well could be but that doesnt change the FACT that ALL FILTERS ARE A RESTRICTION.. if you have the space put on a ideal entry and try it
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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I had to have a drop base air cleaner to clear my hood scoop after building my 434 last year. When I dynoed it the guys at the shop were asking me about my set up and I mentioned that I thought I was going to need a drop base air cleaner. They recommend the one in the link I posted and said it made more power than any other air cleaner that they had dynoed. Ok... I quit... filters are GREAT.. they arent any restriction
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Well my wide-band didn't see the difference, so I am sticking with my opinion. Then your seeing turbulence over the carb.. I will say it again ALL filters are a restriction and its a proven fact... just because you didnt see any change DOESNT change the FACT that a filter isnt a restriction... On the same note, they also smooth out airflow apparently.......... Very well could be but that doesnt change the FACT that ALL FILTERS ARE A RESTRICTION.. if you have the space put on a ideal entry and try it I hear ya Mike it's just a b$%^h to street drive and not give something up unfortunately to keep debris outta the motor. K&N apparently did some dragster/pro stock scoop filters but never really heard the results........
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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I had to have a drop base air cleaner to clear my hood scoop after building my 434 last year. When I dynoed it the guys at the shop were asking me about my set up and I mentioned that I thought I was going to need a drop base air cleaner. They recommend the one in the link I posted and said it made more power than any other air cleaner that they had dynoed. Ok... I quit... filters are GREAT.. they arent any restriction They might. I just haven't seen enough restriction to warrant removing the filter. Especially when I race at a lot of tracks where we park on dirt/grass. No need to get pissy. Just sharing my personal testing and results... 
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Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Looking back, my car was .10 quicker w/the hood/sealed pan on than off in the 1/8th...............and 1 mph...........fwiw........
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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I had to have a drop base air cleaner to clear my hood scoop after building my 434 last year. When I dynoed it the guys at the shop were asking me about my set up and I mentioned that I thought I was going to need a drop base air cleaner. They recommend the one in the link I posted and said it made more power than any other air cleaner that they had dynoed. Ok... I quit... filters are GREAT.. they arent any restriction That's NOT what he said. In some racing, dirt cars for instance, you MUST run an air cleaner. If the shop Justin was using does a lot of dirt car motors, they test those type things. At least that's what I took from the post
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Mike pleas re read what I posted. They didn't say it made more power than NO air cleaner. It made more power than ANY AIR CLEANER they had tested. And this was his other post Monte... as I said EARLY in this.. if you have to you have to.. still doesnt say its NOT a restriction.. which I STAND BY
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Re: Anyone use(d) the Corvette L88 air cleaner base?
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Mike pleas re read what I posted. They didn't say it made more power than NO air cleaner. It made more power than ANY AIR CLEANER they had tested. And this was his other post Monte... as I said EARLY in this.. if you have to you have to.. still doesnt say its NOT a restriction.. which I STAND BY A couple of us have quantified our results with real world data to back it up... Just because you use words like "FACT" and "RESTRICTION" doesn't make it so in every case.
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11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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