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I have acquired Big Joe Teutons 1966 Coronet convertible. It was an ordered car with a build date of Sept 29, 1966, seems late. Original 318 poly, AC, PS, power top but standard single master cylinder all working on car. Runs great but smokes a little. It has RT side badges, RT front grill and no chrome trim down the side like the normal 66 cars. It is a 500 with P code in vin and speaking of vin. The older 66 cars have a stamped vin pad with raised numbers and this one is the 67 style cleaner stencil type, but a 66 vin for sure. Someone in the know also pointed out it has a 67 interior and console. Anybody come across a car like this? 66 1/2?
Jim Pancake, a Dodge dealer told me it would have been in line with 67s in late Sept and as an ordered car, who knows. I have not pulled the back seat to look for a build sheet. Thanks
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That is almost 2 full months into the 67 model year build which began on August of 66.
No, there in no such thing as a 66 1/2 ...
Do you have any actual proof that the car is 100% unmolested ?
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That SPD should make it a '67 car, as previously stated, but the Poly says '66. Sounds like a customized car to me. It's not unheard of for cars built at the very start or end of production to use some parts from the previous or later model year, but the description sounds more like a car that was altered, not produced. I'd be that if you get a look at the backsides of the body side panels you'll find that the molding holes were welded/filled. There is nothing in the SPD that calls out the build year, just month and day , if it says 929 on the fender tag it stands for 9/29/1965.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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Had a 67 plymouth with Poly even though they were supposed to be LAs.It was all OE when we got it.That was in the 80s and was a 1 owner car.Rocky
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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That SPD should make it a '67 car, as previously stated, but the Poly says '66. Sounds like a customized car to me. It's not unheard of for cars built at the very start or end of production to use some parts from the previous or later model year, but the description sounds more like a car that was altered, not produced. I'd be that if you get a look at the backsides of the body side panels you'll find that the molding holes were welded/filled. No engine or transmission stamped with partial VINs until the 1968 model year. There is nothing in the SPD that calls out the build year, just month and day , if it says 929 on the fender tag it stands for 9/29/1965. Build month & day they hoped for, but there is no way to know the actual build day or month. I do agree on 1965 for the 1966 model year start though.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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Good points by all. The sequence # matches the body. The date has to be 9 29 66 because it has a large 278k in last 6 of vin. I have March and July Hemi Coronets with lower vin last 6. Poly was last year in US 66 and I think Canada was 67. Big Joe was a Chrysler dealer and factory racer so I would think he could order a weird car. Mrs Teuton may have wanted an ac car, they still have a hemi. Will see Lil Joe at our D4 banquet next week and see what light he can shed. I bet that AC compressor weighs 50 lbs. LOL Parts store showed "E" in vin as polysphere. That is followed by 6 which is year. 66 RT?? Cool Car Pun!!! I will try to get some pics.
The quarters are 66, no fake scoops. Still has the original snap down top bra.
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Good points by all. The sequence # matches the body. The date has to be 9 29 66 because it has a large 278k in last 6 of vin. I have March and July Hemi Coronets with lower vin last 6. Poly was last year in US 66 and I think Canada was 67. Big Joe was a Chrysler dealer and factory racer so I would think he could order a weird car. Mrs Teuton may have wanted an ac car, they still have a hemi. Will see Lil Joe at our D4 banquet next week and see what light he can shed. I bet that AC compressor weighs 50 lbs. LOL Parts store showed "E" in vin as polysphere. That is followed by 6 which is year. 66 RT?? Cool Car Pun!!! I will try to get some pics.
The quarters are 66, no fake scoops. No RT's in 66......
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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I have some pics, how do I post?
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WP27E67278xxx = '66 Coronet 500 convertible w/"poly" 318 WH27E67278xxx = '66 Coronet 440 convertible w/"poly" 318 either would've been "SCHEDULED" mid-May '66 - are you reading a shipping date or first sold date??
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The sequence # matches the body If you mean the VIN sequence, it should not match the body numbers for this year.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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The one on SQ # on fender tag matches body. Last 6 of vin is other numbers. I am trying to get some pics up.
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Look at the dash where the half round chrome trim goes over the column, I s it metal or plastic? Look at the dash colored piece under the column, is it metal or plastic?
Plastic is 67, metal is 66 and they will not interchange. Metal dash frame is different.
Look at steering column, is it painted a satin color or full gloss? Look at column under dash near brake pedal, does it have a part of the tube 6" long that is a mesh? By hat is a collapsing 67 column.
Is steering wheel colored like the interior? Does it have 2 spokes or 3?
Does the console have the end piece bolt on? Look inside the console box and you will see the fast ers inside there on the rear end. You can see the seam on the outside.
66 and 67 front fenders are different where headlight buckets mount, weld on in 66, bolt on in 67.
The 66 and 67 heater boxes are different in the way the metal brackets are attached also, need to go in garage and look at that again.
Generally August 1st started the next model year car production.
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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Look at the dash where the half round chrome trim goes over the column, I s it metal or plastic? Look at the dash colored piece under the column, is it metal or plastic? METAL
Plastic is 67, metal is 66 and they will not interchange. Metal dash frame is different. METAL
Look at steering column, is it painted a satin color or full gloss? Look at column under dash near brake pedal, does it have a part of the tube 6" long that is a mesh? By hat is a collapsing 67 column. STRAIGHT COLUMN
Is steering wheel colored like the interior? Does it have 2 spokes or 3? TWO
Does the console have the end piece bolt on? Look inside the console box and you will see the fast ers inside there on the rear end. You can see the seam on the outside. YES BOLT ON
66 and 67 front fenders are different where headlight buckets mount, weld on in 66, bolt on in 67.
The 66 and 67 heater boxes are different in the way the metal brackets are attached also, need to go in garage and look at that again.
Generally August 1st started the next model year car production.
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Thanks, plain ole 66 500 rag with a poly. Somewhere somebody got cute and RT'ed it. I don't have room for it but it's definitely worth engine fresh and driver. A few rust bubbles in lower quarter and lower deck lid. I may put it in the for sale section. Thanks again Phish
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The one on SQ # on fender tag matches body. Last 6 of vin is other numbers. I am trying to get some pics up. here is what a REAL 66 Dodge VIN tag looks like, that one is NOT , I wouldn't trust the numbers that are on it .
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Re: 66 1/2 Coronet, such a thing
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without pics, a VIN and/or fender tag info, we can only guess at what you are dealing with
what year 1/4s are on the car? And for non-convertibles 67 Deluxes used the same quarters as a 66. I don't think that is a legit vin tag. Wasn't the 66 vin tag same as a 65 but with rivets where 65 was just spot welded?
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I thought that tag looked 67ish is why I started the post. The rest of the driveline looks correct. BIG DEAL #'s match poly. LOL The paperwork is good so it would make a great hemi clone or just leave it alone. Thanks again. This board is awesome. Phish
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That fake VIN tag should be a huge red flag I'd think... Yep. No rivets back then either.
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The one on SQ # on fender tag matches body. Last 6 of vin is other numbers. I am trying to get some pics up. here is what a REAL 66 Dodge VIN tag looks like, that one is NOT , I wouldn't trust the numbers that are on it . Counterfeit / Fake VIN tag for sure. If you bought the car with that tag in place, you should try to get your money back immediately. If the seller says no, then you have easy grounds for a lawsuit. Consult with your state cops too.
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My dog likes to ride in it and my cops say good to go. No worries! Thanks for your concern.
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Oh gawd, huge mistake posting pic, these VIN police are going to tell you the world will end and its your fault........ The world will not end. But if caught, the car could be confiscated. If the OP did it, then shame on him. If he bought it this way than he should get his money back or pursue legal action towards that goal. Owning a rolling crime scene is his choice at this point, up to him what to do.
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If the rear door panels are not cracked those are worth $1200!
I like these cars a lot. My next and last one to the collection wll be a Hemi 4-speed hardtop not in yellow. I have just what you need. And they haven't been monkeyed with!!
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Those guys are the real deal. On the vert Troop D state police say the car is good to go. It was last tagged in 2011. I think Snowden may have given vin plate to Putin who gave it to Trump. I can get it from him. LOL What is a rose rivet?
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Those guys are the real deal. On the vert Troop D state police say the car is good to go. It was last tagged in 2011. I think Snowden may have given vin plate to Putin who gave it to Trump. I can get it from him. LOL What is a rose rivet? I know you think you are cute but I think an entry into the fraudulent VIN database is called for.
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I know you think you are cute but I think an entry into the fraudulent VIN database is called for. [/quote]
In years past I was told I was cute, not so much lately. Thanks for all the valid input, I paid next to nothing and now I know I got next to nothing. Ain't trying to fool anybody. I think the refuge children in Syria may be more important than this ole' vert.
Go ahead, pull the tape and enter it. Stephen Hebert
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My dog likes to ride in it and my cops say good to go. No worries! Thanks for your concern. That's all that matters, If the PoPo are happy with the VIN tag regardless of it's "correctness", then everyone is happy, personally I'd strike an "authentic" looking tag/attachment for it to keep the self anointed VIN police at bay
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Oh gawd, huge mistake posting pic, these VIN police are going to tell you the world will end and its your fault........ The world will not end. But if caught, the car could be confiscated. If the OP did it, then shame on him. If he bought it this way than he should get his money back or pursue legal action towards that goal. Owning a rolling crime scene is his choice at this point, up to him what to do. A "Rolling crime scene"....... .... there should be a fruitcake icon for ridiculous statements like this
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A "Rolling crime scene"....... .... there should be a fruitcake icon for ridiculous statements like this Get with the program - the current word of the day is "snowflake." But how ridiculous will the statement be when it's time to sell? The word for that is "d'oh!"
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I was going to use snowflake yesterday. Funny.. The car has been picked up, I will get a pic later. I see no need to mess with it when I have correct cars. BUT AGAIN the state po's have checked it, ITS GOOD!!! Donated to a worthy cause.
Google Great Race hemi Coronet. Dare I post that vin???? How do I become a member of the "vin police"????
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I do appreciate everyone's comments as I really thought the 67 looking vin lettering made it a freak RT. I was going to make a hemi clone which would have cost a bunch. And ya'll are right, when my kids have to deal with it, selling would be a problem.
Happy New Year to the board, and my flip comments are never intended to offend anyone. Wait till you see who hauled it off!!!
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Now why did you mention red light???? Did you youtube 2016 Mopar Hemi Challenge final?
Need to work on that instead of these Clunker/Junkers. Phish
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Spyphish's "premature" problem. Go to 17:25. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px63daOXZl0Your gold '66 is the way all Hemis should have been built, in a sedan with low options. I saw it around 15 years ago when another Moparts member owned it.
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The 9:00ish area is a better look. Gave the AH record holder 02 head start and ran him down. Check the Q1 70 back for sale section. Thinning the herd and perfect vins.
Brown Clown RT never got to join the herd, bad seed. LOL
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