Re: 1.7 Rockers ... why so rare?
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My comp solid roller has .432/.436 lobes, theoretically with my T&D 1.7's and zero lash the lift should be .734/.741". With .018" lash my lift at the retainers was .711/.719", with the lash added back it's .729/.737". With checking springs or full spring pressure?
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Re: 1.7 Rockers ... why so rare?
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I tried to respond and this web site dumped it ![runaway runaway](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/runaway.gif) Pierre at Smith Bros. didn't offer to replace them after I pointed out that I had paid for the .120 wall and he wasn't going to replace the two bad ones until one of the shop supervisors came in and looked at both of them and told Pierre to replace them both for no charge. Needles to say I normally buy Manton now at a better price and get what I order and pay for Smith Bros. was here in Bend back then, they moved to Redmond, OR (23 miles further north now) several years back. I started buying pushrods from the original owner back in the late 1960s when they where in West Covina, CA, that guy was a real jerk ![down down](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/down.gif) His Son was a lot better to deal with ![thumbs thumbs](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/custom/thumbs.gif) His Son moved the business up here to Bend a long time before I moved here in 2005 and I think he sold it to the current owners in that time frame, 2004 to 2006 I still use Smith Bros, but if I had/have an experience like that I'd have switched too.
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Re: 1.7 Rockers ... why so rare?
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My comp solid roller has .432/.436 lobes, theoretically with my T&D 1.7's and zero lash the lift should be .734/.741". With .018" lash my lift at the retainers was .711/.719", with the lash added back it's .729/.737". With checking springs or full spring pressure? Full spring pressure. BTW this is a Indy headed small block.
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Re: 1.7 Rockers ... why so rare?
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That's really really good if it's a 59deg block.
The worst case I've seen with aftermarket rockers was on some TA heads that had HS rockers on them. The rocker stands had been milled off, and they had the blocks around the shafts, along with the offset shafts(iirc) like W2 heads. Going off memory, they were about 1.46 on the exhaust, 1.45 on the offset rocker intakes...... With checking springs. With 500lbs open spring pressure they were down around 1.43-1.44.
On the BB ones I've checked, using rockers with the std offset, both Crane and HS seem to have about .5 added ratio built in when checking with soft springs(depending on exactly where you have the adjuster set). The HS seem so have less deflection and are usually still higher than the advertised ratio even with 600lbs+ open pressure. I had a set of HS 1.6's on some SR heads...... Checked about 1.67 with soft springs, were still 1.62-1.63 with 700lbs open pressure.
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Re: 1.7 Rockers ... why so rare?
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It's a 59*. I mentioned it to Brett in one of our phone conversations and he seemed to think maybe T&D put more ratio in them to offset the losses. They would have pretty much had to. You get loss from the pushrods and lifters not being in line with each other.
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