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Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: Supercuda] #2219626
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Originally Posted By Supercuda
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20 years on a set of TA's.


That proves one thing, only, and not that T/A's are a good choice.

I have a set of them in storage that are that age, they are rollers only.


Stored properly in a climate controlled garage, they were just fine.
Just pointing out they lasted a long time.

They are hard as hockey pucks and there are much better choices for traction, however.

Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: Tempest] #2219667
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Originally Posted By Tempest
Stored properly in a climate controlled garage, they were just fine.
Just pointing out they lasted a long time.

They are hard as hockey pucks and there are much better choices for traction, however.



BFG is owned by Michelin...

Michelin's are a hard casing...

They are made for racking-up miles...


They are not DR's...


Best mileage I ever got was out of TP's in the past...

Over 80k on two sets...


There's all kind of old rides running T/A's in these parts...

Heard very little negative feedback...

Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: RSNOMO] #2219669
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G

Best mileage I ever got was out of a set of TP's in the past...

Over 80k on two sets...



You left out the part about the tires handling like a set of bowling balls and unable to provide reasonable stopping distances in emergency situations.


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Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: feets] #2219671
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I put 160k on two sets of TP's...


They were fine...

Zero issues...

Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: furious70] #2219731
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One comment about the MT Sportsman SR tires mentioned above. I had a set on my Pro Street car with only 1,500 miles on them. They have that flamed tread pattern. Mine cracked right up the middle of the treads. Took some pics and sent to MT. They said do not drive on them.

Switched to the Sportsman Pro's on that car and they hook way better than the SR's. Pretty soft compound, however. Probably will not get a lot of street life but I don't put that many miles on per year.

Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: RSNOMO] #2219830
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Originally Posted By RS23U1G
I put 160k on two sets of TP's...


They were fine...

Zero issues...



Should have tried driving the car on some real tires that allow improved turning, braking, and acceleration.


It makes a world of difference. Those Tiger Paws can't hang.


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Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: Grizzly] #2219929
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Originally Posted By Grizzly
Fastmark, would you mind posting a photo (if you have one) of your new setup?

Thanks!

I don't have a picture but I could get one in the next day or two.

Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: chargervert] #2222616
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I am going to bump the Maxxis Marauders. They are H (130mph) rated and have the standard 15" sizes. Maxxis rates them as 360 for wear.

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The Mickey Thompson ST is a great driving and handling tire for a stock type musclecar. I had a pair of 275's on the back of the '63 before I went to drag radials. I still have them and use them on occasion.

We had a true street radial Nostalgia class this year and I won the '64 and earlier class with them. 20 psi, 120 lbs. of weight over the rear bumper and leaving in 2nd gear still got an 11.94 out of them!

BFGoodrich are trash and always have been! I had a set on a Duster that were squirmey as hell and every one started to bubble. Junk!

I really liked General XP 2000's but they haven't been available for years! Futura Supersports weren't bad either. We don't have a Pepboys here anymore so not sure if they still make them?


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9.92 @ 135mph with a 350 shot of nitrous and 93 octane pump. 1.43 60 ft. 3,750 lbs.

Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: furious70] #2222823
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Looks like I'm late to the party, but.... I'm one season in on my M/T Sportsman ST's, and I am very happy. Car feels better on the road than it ever did on my old Dunlop GT's. They look great with a no nonsense sidewall, raised whites on one side, and they're less expensive than most of the others I looked at. I'd buy them again in a heartbeat.


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Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: furious70] #2222974
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The only problem I have with Maxxis Tires is they're owned by Cheng Shin Rubber Industry Co. a Chinese company.

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Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: Centerline] #2223096
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Does anyone have a traction comparison on the Maxxi tires versus any of the BFG's, Cobras, 500's, ST/SR's or such?

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Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: furious70] #2223290
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one problem with the MT SR's is there's no 225/235 28" tall tire. The Fury needs a 28" front, not a 26"


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Originally Posted By Centerline
The only problem I have with Maxxis Tires is they're owned by Cheng Shin Rubber Industry Co. a Chinese company.


Yeah, that sucks but until Hoosier or Goodyear decide to make a decent 15" UHP street tire, the only other domestic company is MT, everything else is an import.

Originally Posted By furious70
one problem with the MT SR's is there's no 225/235 28" tall tire. The Fury needs a 28" front, not a 26"


No, not exactly. The 28x10 is the closest they have to a 235/60x15. Its an inch wider in section width, so 1/2" per side. Got an extra 1/2"?

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I might have the room, but don't most people really dislike that much tire up front with stock suspension and steering? Thought I've heard people complain that the car will grab and pull with that much tire up front.


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Originally Posted By TC@HP2
Originally Posted By Centerline
The only problem I have with Maxxis Tires is they're owned by Cheng Shin Rubber Industry Co. a Chinese company.


Yeah, that sucks but until Hoosier or Goodyear decide to make a decent 15" UHP street tire, the only other domestic company is MT, everything else is an import.


I don't know.... Cooper tires are still made in the USA, although they do own tire companies in the UK and China. I know opinions vary on whether they make any UHP tires, but it just seems wrong to put foreign tires on an American classic. Even Michelin tires make my skin crawl.


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Originally Posted By furious70
I might have the room, but don't most people really dislike that much tire up front with stock suspension and steering? Thought I've heard people complain that the car will grab and pull with that much tire up front.


Bias ply I can see, radial not so much.


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There are lots of cars out there with wider front tires. Granted, most of them use a more modern suspension but that is of little concern.

I ran a 245/45-18 UHP w-rated tire on the front of the hot rod and had no problems.


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Re: is the BFG radial T/A the only 15" tire left? [Re: furious70] #2223546
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If the car pulls up front with wider tires, it probably needs more caster OR the strut rod bushings are totally roached.

If you went to some RMS, Hotchkis, etc strut rods with the rod end at the K-frame side and went to at least 3 degrees of caster the car will drive well.

I have 275-35-18 fronts and I live in SE Michigan where the roads are a potholed, washboard, cupped disgusting mess and the car doesn't pull at all. I do have 7 degrees of caster in the car. Of course less sidewall probably helps.

I also agree with Feets on the modern tires. Pretty much all those "old school" tires like the BFG T/A are just awful compared to anything modern. Unfortunately they stopped making the BFG G-Force Sports in 15" size because those were at least decent.


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Originally Posted By Centerline

I don't know.... Cooper tires are still made in the USA, although they do own tire companies in the UK and China. I know opinions vary on whether they make any UHP tires, but it just seems wrong to put foreign tires on an American classic. Even Michelin tires make my skin crawl.


My goof. I thought they were owned by the Brits. I guess it is the other way around, which actually is pretty cool. Avon makes the only remaining Z rated UHP 15" tires out there for handling applications.

Looks like Cooper also owns MT, which explains why the MT ST and Cooper Cobra look nearly identical. They also own 11% of Kumho and 51% of Chengshan. For other fans out there, Cooper also makes Dean, Futura, Arizonian, Mastercraft, Starfire, Hercules, and Sears Gaurdsmans.

Far out man!

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