Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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HERE WE GO!!!! LOL
Lets focus on what "I" want. Its a 9. end of story. I believe I got the centre section worked out so lets talk about the housing and ends. LOL!!!!! virtually every person in this thread agreed that the 9" was the way to go in your case and that's what YOU want more importantly, yet my buddy chooses to take ME to task over my opinion. Guess I'm special........LOL!!! He has been here two years and seems to be his mission to argue with me....well, pretty much everybody......LOL!!! For the housing at the proposed power level........it's going to need to be a good one or it's going to bend out past the spring pads. So the Strange or ANY fabricated housing for that matter will be fine, but somebody is going to have to put a full width brace on it that extends to the housing ends. The ends to choose won't matter, unless you already have brakes. If so, choose the end for the brakes you have..........OR go with the common big Ford or symmetrical big Ford and buy new caliper brackets
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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HERE WE GO!!!! LOL
Lets focus on what "I" want.... ... like this is all about you! I'm a slow recreational bracket guy with 3 gear sets for my D60.... carry on!
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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It all depends on application. We just put a Dana 60 in a friends 68 Buick. It's a 10s car. Weighs two tons so an extra 40 pounds in the rear didn't matter, cores are cheap and we have the jig to weld it up ourselves. If weight matters or if available gear selections matter buy a 9".
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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Let's not get this post locked too.
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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HERE WE GO!!!! LOL
Lets focus on what "I" want.... ... like this is all about you! I'm a slow recreational bracket guy with 3 gear sets for my D60.... carry on! MY mom said I was SPECIAL! LOL
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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Being that your running leaf springs and you need a back brace.. you can run a wider one all the way to the outer side of the spring pads then turn it in.. that way you run the spring bolts thru the back brace.. if you stop it at the spring pads the outer ends will bend.. this is my 9" but its for a ladder bar.. but you will get the idea at where the pads would be.. on mine you can see its angled all the way... yours wont be angled in as much till after the pad.. I've only done one this way.. most dont use leafs EDIT you will have to move the shocks which you should do anyways to mount then vertical
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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Let's not get this post locked too. Why would that happen? Matt wants a 9" and asked for suggestions and we are helping him out.
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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The axles are harder to remove than they used to be.I never needed to use a slide hammer to tap them out before the big engine and finding traction. I'm changing gears this winter and I need to make the decision to change to a 9" or re-tube the Dana Gus
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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Any good rear end shop can straighten it BUT that doesnt fix the problem.. the brace has to go out to the ends.. right to the bearing ends EDIT You already know its bent.. just because you have to use a slide hammer on the axles
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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These are the ones I am running... they are a GM style bolt pattern.. the important thing is the large bearing are you trying to reuse existing brakes
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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Being that your running leaf springs and you need a back brace.. you can run a wider one all the way to the outer side of the spring pads then turn it in.. that way you run the spring bolts thru the back brace.. if you stop it at the spring pads the outer ends will bend.. this is my 9" but its for a ladder bar.. but you will get the idea at where the pads would be.. on mine you can see its angled all the way... yours wont be angled in as much till after the pad.. I've only done one this way.. most dont use leafs EDIT you will have to move the shocks which you should do anyways to mount then vertical mr. P do you have any pictures of the internal bracing... if not I can go out and take some just in case someone's interested in reinforcing their own housing
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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Fourgear, that's exactly what I did when I built my 9". I used an aluminum Winters housing center and had Dr Diff build me a set of tubes the size I wanted and put mopar ends on the tubes. I was able to reuse both my 35 spline axles and my Wilwood brakes. Saved a few bills for sure. If your spool is splined all the way through you will probably be able to use your axles, mine was and it all fit together. The unknown in my case is the Winters center housing however I did add some additional bracing to help. I'm using a Moser thru bolt center, pro gears and a monster 10 bolt pinion support I found years ago. I haven't run it yet so this next year will be the test with my new blower engine.
BTW over the years I have had excellent results from the 8 3/4 unit I have used. I've only broken 2 R&P in over 20 yrs use and that's behind 550 to 650 hp smallblocks with transbrakes, big slicks and street gears, no wait, one set was a 4.88 progear.
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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Being that your running leaf springs and you need a back brace.. you can run a wider one all the way to the outer side of the spring pads then turn it in.. that way you run the spring bolts thru the back brace.. if you stop it at the spring pads the outer ends will bend.. this is my 9" but its for a ladder bar.. but you will get the idea at where the pads would be.. on mine you can see its angled all the way... yours wont be angled in as much till after the pad.. I've only done one this way.. most dont use leafs EDIT you will have to move the shocks which you should do anyways to mount then vertical mr. P do you have any pictures of the internal bracing... if not I can go out and take some just in case someone's interested in reinforcing their own housing What do you mean "internal" all my work is done on the back of the housing... if you are asking about the leaf spring version I did its gone so no pics.. but I have my 9" I can take any pics of.. as long as its not internal
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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I thought at one time you had posted pictures of internal bracing.. maybe I was wrong... a lot of fab housing have reinforcement on the inside.. similar to this this is what we did
In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb
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Re: Build me a 9 inch rear
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Nope... wasnt me... I've never done that.. I've never had any problems in there... I really havent had any problems with either the 8 3/4 or my 9".. I did blow a cap off my stock 8 3/4 after about 600 passes, all on the trans brake.. then I changed over to the alum center I have now
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