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Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: J_BODY] #2214819
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I'm good right now but I would have gladly blunked down 3000.00 for the right R block IF and only IF it was machined ready to go or close to it. I wouldn't want to have to have 1000.00 worth of machine work done to a cast iron block. That's a big reason I buy used and apart. My Keith Black block was the only one I bought new and other than my mistake of not having the block drilled for pushrod oiling it was ready to go. A friend did the needed drilling for pushrod oiling.


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Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #2214820
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Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By cudaman1969
I think the other way, make it affordable then people WILL buy it. But if done the other way, all you guinea pigs step foward and buy them then or if the price comes down, the rest of us will buy.


So when can we expect you to produce an affordable block? how soon will you start production? when will they ship?

Did I say I was going to build the blocks? NO. But I guess Henry Ford , WPC, Dodge brothers and the rest went out and did feasibility studies on who would buy there cars and trucks before they where built. They took the CHANCE they would sell, there are no free rides in his world and these "block" manufactures want their guaranty. I would almost bet a dollar to a donut it wasn't done with the sb chevy, they just built it. What was the saying " build it and they will come" sounds good to me. Getting so tired of this find an excuse generation

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: madscientist] #2214825
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Originally Posted By madscientist
you have no idea what you are talking about.



I can assure you, when the subject is Lee Iacocca, Mr. Burns knows EXACTLY what he is talking about...

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: cudaman1969] #2214831
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By cudaman1969
I think the other way, make it affordable then people WILL buy it. But if done the other way, all you guinea pigs step foward and buy them then or if the price comes down, the rest of us will buy.


So when can we expect you to produce an affordable block? how soon will you start production? when will they ship?

Did I say I was going to build the blocks? NO. But I guess Henry Ford , WPC, Dodge brothers and the rest went out and did feasibility studies on who would buy there cars and trucks before they where built. They took the CHANCE they would sell, there are no free rides in his world and these "block" manufactures want their guaranty. I would almost bet a dollar to a donut it wasn't done with the sb chevy, they just built it. What was the saying " build it and they will come" sounds good to me. Getting so tired of this find an excuse generation
This isn't the 1900s or the 60-70s and the aftermarket is VERY well established in who will buy what. No excuses, only the facts

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: pittsburghracer] #2214844
12/16/16 12:55 AM
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Must be winter time on moparts!

Where is that "dead horse" icon...???

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: pittsburghracer] #2214845
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There is hope for the gen3. It sucks switching over from an la, but gotta support what's available.

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: pittsburghracer] #2214847
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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer

Dam Circle-jerks. LOL


Damn contrary old farts... whistling haha


...FAFO...
Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: madscientist] #2214870
12/16/16 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted By madscientist
Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By madscientist
Originally Posted By plycuda
what killed mopar is no rear wheel drive cars for years and years




This certainly didn't help.

Lee Iaccoa was hailed as a genius. He is actually far from it. He set the company back a decade or two by selling out to the government.


He did what he had to do to keep the company afloat..
saved my job and I'm damn glad he did.. if he didnt
you wouldnt have to worry at all about the Chrysler
stuff you have today.. it wouldnt be here
wave




That's just not true. If Chrysler had gone through a bankruptcy, which they could have legally done, they would not have been bound to the government as to where to spend money etc.


You can glorify the guy all you want, but to me, he is a running joke. Chrysler could have been saved by normal business channels.


You think what you want... I was there. all you know
is what you read in the papers.. my wife was in a
few of the meetings and I know what would have happened
to jobs like mine
wave

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: redruM] #2214875
12/16/16 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted By redruM
There is hope for the gen3. It sucks switching over from an la, but gotta support what's available.


Its not as bad as switching from a LA engine to a BB..
at least the SB trans fits the gen3.. thats my next set
up.. gen3
wave

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2214880
12/16/16 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By redruM
There is hope for the gen3. It sucks switching over from an la, but gotta support what's available.


Its not as bad as switching from a LA engine to a BB..
at least the SB trans fits the gen3.. thats my next set
up.. gen3
wave

Anyone still making the cover to use a distributor?

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: cudaman1969] #2214888
12/16/16 02:18 AM
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Its not as bad as switching from a LA engine to a BB..
at least the SB trans fits the gen3.. thats my next set
up.. gen3
wave [/quote]
Anyone still making the cover to use a distributor? [/quote]

I dont know.. I will be injected
wave

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: Monte_Smith] #2214889
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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Originally Posted By Spaceman Spiff
Originally Posted By cudaman1969
I think the other way, make it affordable then people WILL buy it. But if done the other way, all you guinea pigs step foward and buy them then or if the price comes down, the rest of us will buy.


So when can we expect you to produce an affordable block? how soon will you start production? when will they ship?

Did I say I was going to build the blocks? NO. But I guess Henry Ford , WPC, Dodge brothers and the rest went out and did feasibility studies on who would buy there cars and trucks before they where built. They took the CHANCE they would sell, there are no free rides in his world and these "block" manufactures want their guaranty. I would almost bet a dollar to a donut it wasn't done with the sb chevy, they just built it. What was the saying " build it and they will come" sounds good to me. Getting so tired of this find an excuse generation
This isn't the 1900s or the 60-70s and the aftermarket is VERY well established in who will buy what. No excuses, only the facts

Ok , so what's the hold up? Are there any any aftermarket blocks left on the shelves from the last batch? Maybe the piecs of CR-ap pawned off on the unsuspecting buyer.

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Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: pittsburghracer] #2214934
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I'm done......

Both my cars are going up for sale in the spring. I'm tired of worrying about breaking something I can't fix due to parts unavailability every time I stick my foot in it.

After both cars go, I'm out of Ct, and of to Arizona here I'll be in the market for a Barracuda' I can turn into a stock AAR clone.

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: jim sciortino] #2214937
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I'd like to buy a 69 Cuda... something I can actually
buy sheet metal for... everything I own I cant get
anything without searching the country for to find the
last part thats about as bad as the part I have... I'd
just like a cruiser with a nice engine.. would put a
gen3 in it with a 518 trans or a 727 and gear vendor
wave

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2214970
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That will help Mr.P cause you build cars of a different interest.
Please don't take it the wrong way. wave

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Originally Posted By racerx
That will help Mr.P cause you build cars of a different interest.
Please don't take it the wrong way. wave


The reason I do what I do is to make the lightest car
I can and most of these little ones are good on aero
but building stuff that others dont like is the penalty
I pay.. and being odd ball there is ZERO performance parts
for the body so I have to make my own... but for a regular
street car I want something that I can buy sheet metal for
wave

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: pittsburghracer] #2215970
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Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: Lee N. Burns] #2216430
12/18/16 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Lee N. Burns
Originally Posted By madscientist
Originally Posted By plycuda
what killed mopar is no rear wheel drive cars for years and years




This certainly didn't help.

Lee Iaccoa was hailed as a genius. He is actually far from it. He set the company back a decade or two by selling out to the government.


You must get your knowledge from "fake news" sites. First of all, Iacocca asked for (and received) loan guarantees from the government, essentially a co-signer to private loans. They were paid off early with interest to the government.

Chrysler built FWD cars because that's what both the market and the government (through free-market interference) demanded. The resources didn't exist for a modern RWD platform until the advent of the LH car.

Iacocca had the foresight to purchase Jeep (saving jobs), invest in minivans, approve the DR ('94) trucks, approved the V10 and Viper. He built a billion dollar engineering campus that is still the best in the US, if not earth.

He relied to long on K-platforms and should have made Jerry York CEO. He admits Eaton was a mistake and tried to rectify it. He was the only CEO to leave the company better than he found it since WPC.

Now go get your shinebox.


Best Moparts Take Down EVER !! beer up haha

Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: pittsburghracer] #2216446
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Not really. I guess if you think that the US is around just to save Mr Pbodys job, then you could say that.


Or, if you think it's OK to piss away 20 plus years of research into something because Iaccoa had to have a government loan because no one with a brain the size of a pea would give him any, then yes, you'd be correct.

I lived through it. I watched as a once great company was dragged down by incompetence. It should have went broke.

But evidently, Mr Pbody and some other need THAT ONE JOB.

So you can kiss the ass of a flaming communist who said so many times publically that we weren't pay enough for gasoline, that the US had to cut pay and move to junk [censored] cars to compete etc. The mustang is an overrated pile of [censored], the Pinto speaks for itself, as does the Kcar.

Love the pinko all you want. If he couldn't raise the funds privately, the company should have folded.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: I love my Mopars and will never change but [Re: madscientist] #2216461
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You sure dont know crap about what happened then..
but what you read MUST have been true.. yes it got
a LOAN that we paid back early with interest.. if
he went bankrupt all union contracts would have been
thrown out 1000s of jobs would have been on the un-
employment line which the country couldnt handle..
so yeah... you think you know it all... BS.. but keep
thinking you do
wave

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