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Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: RaiderLefty] #218673
02/09/09 02:49 PM
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Now I see what you're talking about. What size would I need?
Jim

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: 1fastrunner] #218674
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It's free in the back, but hung up in the LCA. I can push the LCA away from the k frame, and it moves freely out the back, but it comes back when released. How can I free it up from the LCA?
Jim

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: 1fastrunner] #218675
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Did you remove the upper a arm bump stop to allow the suspension to drop all the way down? I take it you removed the adjuster bolts.

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: 1fastrunner] #218676
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It's free in the back, but hung up in the LCA. I can push the LCA away from the k frame, and it moves freely out the back, but it comes back when released. How can I free it up from the LCA?
Jim




It's stuck with old cruddy grease and/or rust in the control arm socket , push the part back out of the way and drop out the engine trans then pull the parts out of the car so you can work on them OR buy or make a removal tool that clamps to the bar and won't knick up the surface , bolt the LCA back in place and beat it out of the control arm .

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: stumpy] #218677
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The bump stop was never there, and the tension bolt has been loosened.
Jim

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: 1fastrunner] #218678
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Removing it will allow a little more movement which may be all you need.

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: stumpy] #218679
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I just went through the same issue. I whacked on the tool for a week and couldn't get it to budge. Tried everything and still no luck. My buddy came over Saturday and gave it a shot with my sledge, still no good. He then got his handheld sledge that was about the same weight as mine but with a longer handle. After a few whacks it came loose. Use the biggest BFH you can find!

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: JM67RT] #218680
02/09/09 08:17 PM
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Jim,
Try this before you go completely crazy:

Using a floor jack, lift up on the lower control arm at the wheel hub. Just a little bit. Once you find the "perfect" spot that releases all tension on the torsion bar, you may be able to literally pull it straight out with just your hands!

You may have to go up/down in little increments to get the lower control arm in the perfect spot to get the torsion bar to slide out.

Stan

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: HemiStan] #218681
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I already tried that a little, but I'll try again tomorrow. I've soaked everything for the night, my upper ball joints are also contributing to my "Torsion" headache. I think the drivers side is good to go, it's the passenger side that's giving me fits. It goes through the back alright, but is getting hung up somewhere through the LCA. I am ready to go crazy! I needed some sense of accomplishment today, so I did some other things. I disconnected my speedo cable, backup switch, and my clutch linkage. Tomorrow's another day.
Jim

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: 1fastrunner] #218682
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If you haven't already tried this, hit the socket on the lca that the torsion bar slips in with a large hammer several times. This has worked for me.

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: pushbutton] #218683
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Mine were rusted in, i had to cut them out. They dont cut to easily!!

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: 440challenger] #218684
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Finally some good news, I got one out and the other very close. I can rock it back and forth with a vise grip and a towel around it by hand. It's getting hung up on the back where it's supposed to come out. I can feel a slight metal ridge in a couple spots. I need to find a way to gring out some of the metal around the opening. This celebration will be brief, my other ongoing mission is the upper ball joints. I'm trying to borrow a impact driver, and hopefully my wimpy compressor will be up to the job. Thanks, for all your tips and suggestions, I'm not sure which one did it, and maybe even a combination. Now I need to find a way to get this PB Blaster oder off me.
Jim

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: 1fastrunner] #218685
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There should be no resaon to grind anything. Are you sure you're not feeliung the clip?

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: 1fastrunner] #218686
02/10/09 10:55 PM
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Now I need to find a way to get this PB Blaster oder off me.





Spill some used gear oil on yourself... you will never smell the PB again..

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: stumpy] #218687
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No clip, it seems at one time it had been removed and possibly hammered in. I'm guessing the hammer may have missed the mark and pushed some metal in the way. i can feel a slight lip in two places with my finger.
Jim

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Finally some good news, I got one out and the other very close. I can rock it back and forth with a vise grip and a towel around it by hand. It's getting hung up on the back where it's supposed to come out. I can feel a slight metal ridge in a couple spots. I need to find a way to gring out some of the metal around the opening. This celebration will be brief, my other ongoing mission is the upper ball joints. I'm trying to borrow a impact driver, and hopefully my wimpy compressor will be up to the job. Thanks, for all your tips and suggestions, I'm not sure which one did it, and maybe even a combination. Now I need to find a way to get this PB Blaster oder off me.
Jim




You made it sound like it was stuck in the LCA ?????

Pull the nut off the pivot shaft on the LCA , stick a prybar between the LCA and the K frame and pry it back , if the clip is out itshould come out. The ridge you are feeling is the ridge that keeps the clip in place DO NOT GRIND it out .

Re: Help removing torsion bar [Re: JohnRR] #218689
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I'll have a look tomorrow after work.
Thanks,
Jim

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