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Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Charger453] #2179841
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Monte hit the nail on the head as for why my 60' times are slow. I've only been able to get a best of 1.52. The rear gear is killing me on the short time, but it sure makes it nice to drive. So, who's an expert on converters? I'm just curious when you request a 5,000 flash...what does that mean exactly? For example, mine flashes to 4,400 when mashing the gas from a slow roll in 3rd. It appeared to flash closer to 5,000 on the dyno. When I shift at 6,600, the RPMs fall to about 5,500 on the shift. It's only a 9.5" so I know they say it's hard to get much more than 4,500 out of a unit this big. It was going to be way too tight so I had a local shop put a different stator in it. As for why I dropped the Procharger, I planned on doing a somewhat crazy twin turbo build. Unfortunately life and $ got in the way of that for now.

Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Charger453] #2179891
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I don't think it should be any problem getting a 9.5" unit to stall 5k behind that motor, in that weight car, and still have what I would consider acceptable efficiency.

Much more than 5k, it's probably gonna slip more down track than I'd like.


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Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Charger453] #2180123
10/22/16 02:03 AM
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Well part of your problem with the slow 60 ft. is the 4400 vert stall, with your current engine setup. You need a vert stall around 5000 to 5400 IMO for a more optimum setup with your current combo

But you stated your goal was to run 5.80,s or so with a 200 shot.
So were talking two different verts IMO The current vert is not optimum for your current combo, it may be for the 200 shot combo, or maybe not..

You may be in the market for two more different verts. To optimize the current setup, absolutely. The 200shot set up, not sure, but probably.

Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Charger453] #2180317
10/22/16 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By Charger453
Monte hit the nail on the head as for why my 60' times are slow. I've only been able to get a best of 1.52. The rear gear is killing me on the short time, but it sure makes it nice to drive. So, who's an expert on converters? I'm just curious when you request a 5,000 flash...what does that mean exactly? For example, mine flashes to 4,400 when mashing the gas from a slow roll in 3rd. It appeared to flash closer to 5,000 on the dyno. When I shift at 6,600, the RPMs fall to about 5,500 on the shift. It's only a 9.5" so I know they say it's hard to get much more than 4,500 out of a unit this big. It was going to be way too tight so I had a local shop put a different stator in it. As for why I dropped the Procharger, I planned on doing a somewhat crazy twin turbo build. Unfortunately life and $ got in the way of that for now.
You will not go wrong with a PTC 9.5 and they have been good n/a and on boost for me but the trans may be a problem on boost with the clutches,bands in it burning up unless you go to a GM trans IMO.
Correction on spay!

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Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Clanton] #2180332
10/22/16 02:29 PM
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Perhaps I can't see the forest for the trees, but if my lowly 440 (452) 3750# street car with 4.10s and a Dynamic 4500-flash 9.5" can pull 1.45"x-1.46 60s running 6.6s at 101-102 MPH, why is the OP pulling low 1.5x 60s like my car did back when it ran 6.9-7.0 at 98 MPH?

Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Charger453] #2180360
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He has no gears. 3.55. Look at his trap speed compared to yours. The thing is a freight train.


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Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Charger453] #2180393
10/22/16 05:10 PM
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That's the difference between standard port heads like I assume you have and Max Wedge. With my heads and cam, it just flat out needs more gear and converter to ET like the MPH says it should.
My old 451 had a better 60' than this combo as well, but it had Eddy RPMs, a 4500 converter and 4.10s. That combo went 6.71 @ 101 with a 1.44 60'. I know my current converter and gear are far from optimum. I just need to decide if I want to give up the driveability of 3.55 gears for a little ET. I really want to spray it down the road so it's probably best left alone. Trust me, this car dead hooks but look at the chassis dyno differences at a few RPMS...

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Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Charger453] #2180397
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Re: Went on the chassis dyno today. Any guesses? [Re: Charger453] #2180403
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I am gunna be running with a 3.73 from my blower but I just want to get out and have fun so hooking and good mph is what I want and not chase et slips for a while.Enjoy your ride and have fun!


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