Re: paint job on a budget!?
[Re: 69chargeryeehaa]
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02/07/06 10:06 PM
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I think I'm going to look in to seeing what it will take to tint some of the white to match the good old Plymouth White, AKA, W1. Until some time well beyond the forseeable future, funds around here aren't going to be what they once were, now that Monkey Boy is here. So, instead of a shiny new paint job for Elvira AND the Fury, I'm going to go "Pro Patina (TM)" on Elvira. I've already got the paint for the Fury, so that's a done deal. However, the 37-year-old paint on Elvira really is good enough on 90% of the body that I can probably just buff it out and get a decent shine. On the rest of the car, like the hood, DS fender, and bumper filler, I just need to make it match close enough for a driver. That's what she is, after all. So, if I can get the Rust-O to match W1, I'm willing to give this a try. In this photo, her last public outing (Fall, 2004...), she's wearing a Plastikote touch-up spray bomb on the DS fender. I did that fender in the carport the night before the show, and it turned out OK. White hides a multitude of sins, and the sun shines A LOT down here... BUT, the distinct advantage of rolling it on is that my wife won't have conniptions about me painting in the driveway. Plus, those little 6oz cans are JUNK, I had to throw three of them out at half full because they started puking paint out from under the nozzle. I've got some investigating to do... Clair
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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02/07/06 11:15 PM
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I used the 7747 Yellow on a Duster fender...was going well till I screwed it up by doing the two coats then wet sanding and then on the third coat leaving it outside on a foggy cold night...bad One thing I did play with however was using a combo of the roller and then doing the wheel lips with the same color in the Rustoleum spray...I wonder if you could use it to do jambs and hard to get too areas. I did notice the two blended fine.
Want to see true paint quality I could show you my Bee with the original paint on the inner wheel housings and inner door frame with all the nice drips and runs in it. these things were not exactly painted to some show quality out of the box anyway.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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02/08/06 10:10 AM
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i do everything with the roller, the fenders and wheel lips all with the roller, the only place where the brush comes in is when doing the drip rail, the front cowl grill slots, under hood, trunk, door jambs. but even then for the cowl vent for example, i would run the brush in every slot, and then finish off with the roller on top. i also had a spray bomb on hand with the same color thinking i would need to spray a hard to reach area and never used it. even when you do the door jambs for example, i would say 90% can be done with the roller, and the rest you do with a foam brush, finish with the roller last.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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02/08/06 04:03 PM
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Robert- Tremclad is an umbrella name the same way we used to use Labor Saver for some of our industrial products. The Industrial Enamels, Aerosols, Epoxies and Polyurethanes would be rough equivalents to the corresponding Tremclad products, although there is not always a direct color or exact product crossover. -Rick Consumer/Technical Service Team Rust-Oleum Corporation 11 Hawthorn Parkway Vernon Hills, IL 60061 Ph (877) 385.8155 Fax (847) 816.2330 MSDS:www.rustoleum.com VirtualSolutions this is my answer from rustoleum. I had asked what is the U.S. equivalent to the Canadian product Tremclad.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
[Re: mopork]
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02/08/06 04:08 PM
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I was not thrilled with this answer. Sounds like the politicly correct way to say they are different products. rough equivalents to the corresponding Tremclad products, although there is not always a direct color or exact product crossover.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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02/08/06 04:55 PM
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this looks like the perfect thing for direct to metal auto painting in the U.S.
http://rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=228&SBL=2
Any idea where to buy this industrial grade stuff? I think I saw something similar at home depot, but they only had the gallon size and I dont think they had but 1 or 2 colors.
Rustoleum has a dealer finder, but it mostly gives walmarts, targets and stuff and says not all dealers carry all their products (duh).
Anyways though, I've gotten good preliminary results from the cheap enamel, not sure what the real benefit of the industrial grade stuff would be, since after all we are not talking about a standard application (i.e., 6 coats mixed with mineral spirits, wetsanding between each 2 coats) of the product anyways. But then, maybe the industrial stuff would be better even after a similar application..
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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02/08/06 05:30 PM
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http://rustoleum.com/Vendors.asp?ddiw=1&SBL=2
Where to buy in U.S.
Thanks! Looks like a Kelly Moore in my area should have it.
Can anyone imagine how the industrial grade stuff would work better than the cheap stuff? 69charger has had his paint on for years and apparently it looks the same as when he painted, so I am wondering how better it could get
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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02/10/06 01:22 AM
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I used Rustoleum on a project about 25 yrs ago, it faded pretty quick. I have a guy doing my body work and paint at my house right now. He said we will be painting it next weekend.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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02/10/06 09:21 AM
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Hey I went to Home Depot today they have the industrial enamel in gallons and it call be tinted in any color in a gloss or flat base
Interesting! I am still not sure the benefit of the industrial stuff. The difference in glossyness I dont think would be a factor since wetsanding takes the glossyness off anyways (then polishing brings it back). Maybe it's more resistant to chips or something, but 69charger's (non-industrial) tremclad seems to be fine in that area.
I will probably stick with good old 7770 Almond Gloss, but I can't decide if I want to try an orange-red color. I bet home depot can mix up the cheap stuff too? if not, maybe kelly moore.
I haven't been at home during the daylight, but tomorrow I should be able to yank my test door outside and get some shots of it at various angles in good light.
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Re: paint job on a budget!?
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02/10/06 10:03 AM
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I used Rustoleum on a project about 25 yrs ago, it faded pretty quick. I have a guy doing my body work and paint at my house right now. He said we will be painting it next weekend.
That was 25 years ago. I know a guy painted his trailer with red Rustolem about the probably in teh same time frame and it lasted aout 2 years anchalked up really bad. BUT here is an area that I think that technology has vastly improved teh quality and longevity of the products.
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