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Hot Rod Drag Week 2016: The Last Hurrah? #2165620
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The 2015 tale has been a tough one to write, and I'll apologize for that one more time. The thing is, the way Friday was handled really stuck in my craw, and I don't like being negative or critical of an event that I enjoy this much. I really don't enjoy being negative or critical of the people who put in long hours of preparation leading up to the event, and even longer hours during the event to make it all happen. I have tremendous respect for the Hot Rod crew, the Drag Week crew, and Lonnie Grimm the race director for the effort they put in to make this the highlight of our year!

Combining my disappointment with the end of the 2015 version, and the fact that the 2016 version was a 2000 mile tow, I considered sitting this year out. The problem was, Boone and I had both finished 3rd in our respective classes, so we were afforded an early entry, which is a privilege that is difficult to waste. I only signed up the one car, and informed Rachael I wasn't going to enter the Belvedere, and that I would be at the Bakersfield March Meet when regular registration took place, so she was on her own!

Now, why "the last Hurrah?" in the title? Maybe it's just me being overly dramatic, I'm not sure, but I do know that nothing lasts forever. My brothers and I attended our first "Mopar Only" race in 1992, and thought we would run those types of events from then on. We went to the "Monster Mopar Weekend" event at St. Louis every year from '96 to '02, then just didn't go in 03...we haven't been back since. I started running NHRA Super Street in '99, and chased the Divisional trail hard from '02 to '08... then just stopped, and haven't been back since. We weren't even born in the Gasser years, we were too young and too poor for the KOS era, but Hot Rod Drag Week came around at the perfect time for my family and I to jump in with both feet and have a blast! It has been especially rewarding to share it with my youngest daughter Rachael for the last five years, but my Father's Day present from her this year was the announcement that I was going to be a Grandfather for a second time, so maybe it's her last trip on Drag Week!

At the beginning of last year's story, I put a link to the past editions, and Boone tells me the views on those have doubled and in some cases tripled in the last year. That's very flattering, but I suspect everyone was just bored with waiting for the next installment! In any case, I hope you find these somewhat entertaining, even if just for the pictures.

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two hours from March Meet registration and I'm not really sure I want to hit that "purchase" button.... FWIW, you still have Silver State Challenge and Speed Weeks at Bonneville you could take a stab at smile

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No March Meet for me in 2017. A little foreshadowing, but we had a REALLY good 2016 Drag Week, so Dale and Boone are fired up for next year already...we will see.

Since I didn't do a "build up" thread this year, I'll attempt to catch everyone up as quickly as possible as to what transpired the other 50 weeks before we really start preparing for Drag Week.


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Drag Week wouldn't be the same without you Billy! But I understand it is a huge commitment time and money wise. Life's priorities change, and sometimes it's just good to experience different things. Have fun whichever way you decide to go.

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billy, does the lead in pic indicate you are in the process of building a hot [street] rod ?
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I believe that is one of the brothers, I forget which one. If you line the Brothers up I could pick out Billy and Dale, I would have to guess on the others lol.


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It was great meeting the family Billy! Your tales are once of the major drivers that convinced me to give Drag Week a shot.


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Yep, Hemi Joel's tails of riding with Jay Brown also really had my interest.


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I have to say that reading Billy's tales got me to want to try it, haven't yet but hope to.
Before his tales, I didn't realize there were classes for the "average", guy, meaning the 10-second and slower crowd, I only remember HR articles about the unlimited type cars, I've never had a HR subscription, so only flipped thru the pages, or occasionally bought a issue.
I got to meet Billy at Spring Fling one year, and at Phoenix last October for HR Drag Weekend, when I ran that.
I look forward to reading his tales, as all of us here do.


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Good to see the 2016 tale being spun.


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One of the reasons I went this year was because of 131. I was there with Eddie in 06 and loved that track. But DW has changed alot since then. What was once a collection of guys with cars they claimed are street cars that would fall apart a few miles down the road has become a collection of extremely high dollar purpose built cars.

My goal this year was to go and compete with what I believe is a very bottom dollar built car but this year I would be prepared. Have a chassis cert and license. Give it my all. It turned out to be a geat time.Such an experience that I do not think can be beat. This may have been my last hurrah also

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Somehow I had missed this thread - been anxious to read it. Saw some of the live feeds but didn't attend in person at all this year. With dad passing in May I just couldn't get up the gumption to go on my own.


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There are two different kinds of Drag Weekers..........those who go to participate and have fun and those who go to WIN their class. The latter now and really always has been about purpose built cars for this purpose. Sure some guys get lucky and win their class with not so serious efforts, but that is usually because some of the purpose built stuff falls out.
Each class has an ET range where you need to run to win. If you build to do that, more than likely it's going to be a serious effort piece and keeping it together a week will be hard work and require some luck. When these cars fall out, the more regular cars move up.

Ray mentioned Eddie. He is a prime example. The year he won the overall title, he was not near the fastest car there, nor even the fastest in his class. Just happened to be the fastest car that survived the week. Guys have learned a LOT since then and know more what it takes to keep one of these heaps together for a week. And that recipe is money, lack of sleep, hard work, ingenuity, never give up attitude and lots of LUCK and spare parts. Lutz put a strut on his this year on the side of the road. Maschmeier changed a cam on the side of the road in the middle of the night one year. That's dedication. Think about it..........most racers go home from the track if they break ANYTHING. These guys break any and EVERYTHING and fix it on the side of the road. It's damn HARD work to go fast for a week and drive over 1000 miles

And Ray can say whatever he wants, but a 9 sec N/A smallblock car is NOT a low dollar car. He may think it's a budget car, many would not.

Another thing we see now is guys choosing classes that are more or less "index" classes because of the chassis limits. Street Race big block power adder is an example. No funny car cages are allowed, so that means the class has an 8.50 cap because of chassis rules. Most of the "hitters" in that class have low 8 and high 7 sec rides if they really let them eat. So their goal for the week is take it easy on the equipment, keep it together and run as close to 8.50 for the week as possible. Doug Flynn is a prime example. Backyard built Nova, mediocre at best chassis, fairly heavy, but has a 1000hp best of the best big block on spray. With a tiny shot of nitrous it goes 8.50s like nothing. Has been teens with only a slightly bigger tune. With better shocks, a little chassis work and a healthy dose it would be a 7.50 car

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Monte, don't forget all the hours that go into prepping the car BEFORE Drag Week, and more likely then not, the long drive to get to the home track. Most are a walking zombie before the event even starts.


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You know as well as anybody Jeff..........THAT aspect is strictly lack of preparation..........LOL!!!

When you wait until the month before Drag Week to get ready, that's what you get...........LOL!!!

Myself, if I was SERIOUS about doing Drag Week, my car would be ready by spring and test it all summer. For whatever reason most don't seem to approach it that way

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That's what I did with my new car in 2014...I knew it needed to be on the road by May, and it was. I still came in 4th! but fortunately they split the class and gave me a free ride the next two years

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Yaa Monte but it wouldn't make for a GOOD story if you did it your way and wouldn't be able to write about it for MONTHS. LOL


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As Frieburger said at the Drivers meeting in 2015: "Welcome to the biggest gathering of cars that did not run 48 hours ago" LOL.


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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith


And Ray can say whatever he wants, but a 9 sec N/A smallblock car is NOT a low dollar car. He may think it's a budget car, many would not.



You obviously never looked at my car. From my Dr Diff axles, past my $15 guages to my ebay water pump, radiator and fans. Its as absolute low dollar as it can get. I did buy some new wheels this year though. Billet specialties because they were cheaper than the rest


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Yep, 9 sec smallblocks powerplants are available at the corner store...............LOL!!!

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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
You know as well as anybody Jeff..........THAT aspect is strictly lack of preparation..........LOL!!!

When you wait until the month before Drag Week to get ready, that's what you get...........LOL!!!

Myself, if I was SERIOUS about doing Drag Week, my car would be ready by spring and test it all summer. For whatever reason most don't seem to approach it that way




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Originally Posted By Monte_Smith
Yep, 9 sec smallblocks powerplants are available at the corner store...............LOL!!!



Dude, its a hemi. They come stock with like 500hp


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Its not a Chevy, Monte.LOL

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Not many more low budget than Ray.Does great with what he has.

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LOL.....Ray seems to be averse to the fact that while maybe he thinks it's low budget, it takes money to do this.

Lets start from scratch and duplicate Ray's deal. Lets go out and find a decent early A-body. Then cage it, tie the frames, maybe mini-tub it(not sure his is), put a glass hood on it and do enough body work to make it not look like a beater. Install a narrowed Dana with some aftermarket axles. Its got split monos and Cal-Tracks, probably decent rear shocks. What about the brakes, are they drums or Wilwoods? I believe he recently installed a rack and coilovers on the front. Does it have light brakes on the front?

The motor. Solid foundation or not, you don't just drop a late HEMI in an A-body and run 9s. So it's a decent piece. You need a good enough trans to hold that power and the right converter to make it run the number. Doesn't it take some decent ignition stuff to make the late HEMI compatible since you can't put a distributor in it? Got to have a fuel system. Sure your shifter, fans, water pump, gauges and other stuff may be Craigs list or Ebay finds, but the foundation is solid. Might not be a $100,000 purpose built race car, but you can't duplicate it for pocket change and lunch money either.

Lets compare it to Billy's Valiant. Those real early A-bodys are pretty light. It's a solid car with ladder bars and slicks. Healthy small block. Runs mid tens. Ray's deal run 9s on drag radials and probably weighs more. It's no bargain basement junker.........LOL!!!

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Monte,
Please refrain from comparing my Valiant to Ray's Black Pearl. I get head-aches and chest pains every time I do it myself!!

I know Ray is very budget conscious, as is Squirrel. It requires more discipline and patience to build a car like that. The other thing it requires is experience, know how, and the gumption to take on parts of the build that force them out of their comfort zone.

I think many of us on here of a certain age take for granted all the knowledge and experience we have gleaned from twenty years of this stuff...and how much money that can save us over a typical checkbook build.

Dale and Boone got stupid when they decided to take the Duster about three months before Drag Week, so there was no time to shop for deals or barter for parts. They dropped 23K in that clapped out shell to make the show...just a point of reference.


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Jeremy,
So sorry to hear of your Dad passing, if you had mentioned that earlier, I failed to see it. Seemed both of you enjoyed DW15, and I'm glad for the opportunity to hang out with him at the track.


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Even as Dale and Boone were attending the Mopar Race at Tulsa in November of 15, it was clear Boone wanted to move away from the Barnyard Viper, and that made Dale and I nervous. Boone has no qualms about selling stuff when he's ready to move to the next one, but we didn't want to see it leave the family.

As I was contemplating how I was going to make room for the Barnyard in my fleet, my buddy Darryl decided he wanted to sell his 69 Dart. This is a great street car that has completed two Drag Weeks, and has a great fitting chrome moly bar, which wraps around a very nice bench seat interior. Like Boone, when Darryl decides to change directions, it happens fast.
"How much are you wanting for the Dart?" I asked Darryl. His sell it now price was 2k less than I felt the car was worth.
"I'll take it." I told him, with finality.
"You will? What's Holly going to say about that..you've got too many cars already..."
"Leave that to me...can we do that thing where I pay you but don't pick it up right away?"
That brought on serious laughter from Darryl, "Sure, sure, but if she asks me, I'm not lying to her!"

I had already bought tickets to The March Meet in Bakersfield California, mainly as a way to entice Boone to bring the Barnyard out to Phoenix more than anything, and I had told him I wanted the Truck, and we would figure something out when he arrived.
"Your all-aluminum Indy low deck engine for starters..." Boone began negotiations.
"Not. Gonna. Happen!!"

I was dreading the phone call to Boone when I bought the Dart from Darryl, because that greatly depleted the funds set aside for the Barnyard.
"I'll take it", Boone told me with finality.
"You'll take what? The Dart? What are going to do with it?"
"Put a big block in it. Run Nines."
"It's a nice small block car with a bar!"
"What are you going to do with it", he laughed, "I want to be there when you try to explain to your wife that the Barnyard and Darryl's Dart are being added to the three other toys you already have!!"

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Yep, 9 sec smallblocks powerplants are available at the corner store...............LOL!!!



Dude, its a hemi. They come stock with like 500hp


So do small block Chevy's. At least that's what the owners tell me.

dang, treed by ksj! LOL

Thanks for the story Billy!! Looking forward to more.

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I believe Ray ran S/G on the NHRA tour for awhile, hence the statement that his drag week car is low buck!

Great looking Dart, Billy, please carry on.

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Dale killed another piston in the 440 at the Tulsa Mopar event in November, and decided to swap in the 547 Mega Block wedge that he had traded for right before we left for DW15.
This is about the 4th or 5th used race engine deal Dale has pulled in the last couple of years, and while the other ones worked out great, he was due to get bit. Upon fire-up, it was clearly on seven cylinders, and a compression check revealed a couple more that were down considerably, so he pushed it into a corner for the long winter.

I had unloaded the Valiant into the back yard, and the Belvedere went under the carport, and became a storage unit.

Boone, Dad and Mom came out to visit for Christmas/New Years, and we took on the huge project of bathroom re-models, and a dumpster to clean up the back yard, so car stuff was secondary, but I did manage to get the Barracuda, and the Valiant on jack stands.

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It was surprisingly early in 2016 when the announcement for the dates and tracks were released by Hot Rod for Drag Week. Like Ray, I was intrigued by the opportunity to not only move US131 from my "Tracks I've visited" list to my "Tracks I've raced at list", but also the opportunity to add the two Ohio tracks to that list as well. The downside was the 2000 mile tow to the starting facility, but since I had an early entry, I knew I was going.

I received the early invitation on Feb. 27th, and the announcement was made that registration would open at 9AM. Saturday March 5th, while Boone and I would be at the March meet, as a point of reference, open registration for 2015 wasn't until April 26th, so things were happening quick.

With a week to go before the March Meet, I decided perhaps I should try to figure out why the trans-brake had quit on the Valiant. This was especially important considering I was entered in D Gas, a four tenths pro tree, 10.60 index class, and I certainly wasn't going to hit that tree on the foot brake.

I dropped the pan, and had my son push the button. It didn't take long to figure out that the solenoid wasn't getting power. Once I began investigating the wiring, it became clear that I had lost power to quite a few different areas, so I removed the passenger seat to allow me to look at all my spaghetti wiring under the dash. About an hour in, I discovered the single fuse holder I had used to splice a hot wire from the working race car wiring to the long dead factory wiring. It had previously hung down for easy access, but when Aaron was re-wiring the ignition box in Indy during DW15, he had wire tied it up out of the way. I pulled the cover and found a blown 20 amp fuse, replaced it with a 25, and we had a working trans-brake once again.
"So", my son shook his head, "This car has been sitting in the backyard for five months, two of those on jack stands...because you had a blown fuse?"
"Well, sometimes diagnosing the problem is the biggest hurdle!" I tried to rationalize.

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With the change of ownership on the Barnyard, we had to rectify the situation of the "borrowed converter", so Dad and Boone backed the 727 up, and Dad pulled out his JW billet 9", and they slid in an Ultimate 9" that I had picked up in a trade from Dale a few years earlier, so I guess you could say I picked up the Dodge "less converter". I also had to supply green accelerator pumps and blue bowl gaskets for the twin 750s as they were leaking fairly good when Boone fired it up after the converter swap.

We arrived at Bakersfield's Famoso Drag Strip Thursday to get pitted and tech in. Friday morning was our first shot at the track. The chip was at 3600, and the Valiant tossed the front end up fairly high on the leave, the 1.413 was the best 60' for the 428 to date, and the 1/8 mile was 6.582-102 compared to 6.596-103 on our gold standard 10.39 pass at Indy. In short she was on a good pass, I was looking over as we pulled past the big block Dart at 1000' when I heard a noise and saw a flash of white. I looked forward at my naked 950HP holley and hinges, the hood was gone! My reaction was to lift, and coast to a 10.52-114 while I wondered how my steel hood with stock latching mechanism had just left the car!

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We really enjoyed the March Meet, hanging out with Jay and Fred, meeting Gary E, and eating all of Chassisman's food, but I had more questions about Drag Week 2016 than I did answers by the time we returned to Arizona.

The family called repeatedly to update us on their attempt to get entered when preregistration opened. Darren, Dale, and James had all got in. John and Opal had not, along with several other friends who have attended in the past. It was tricky to find the link, and quite a few people were disappointed as it filled up in eight minutes.

Mom and Dad loaded up the Dart at Darryl's once we got back, and I began the painful attempts of explaining to my beloved why they had left and the Barnyard was still in Phoenix.

In addition, Boone started pirating my parts locker. That 230 400 block? Yep, those MW ported Indy SR heads with Racer Brown rockers? Gone, Pro-Gram cross bolt caps? You were never going to use them, 1000cfm Demon? Indy low deck intake? 4150 Big Shot plate? Like a dang kid in a candy store!

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So Billy, what are the future plans for the Barracuda and the BYV?
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Billy, is that the same barracuda your brother and Wade had?if so, I came real close to buying it. I missed dw16 as the Ogles trunk monkey. With loosing Jason, they busted their tails getting the two cars back together. I spent dw watching dw live feeds from my wife's hospital room. So this year was biter sweet. If you're interested, I still have a low deck indy tunnel ram collecing dust.

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Jerry,
It should be pretty obvious from reading these stories...I'm not really any good at the whole "planning" part!

The Barracuda checks that "I've always wanted a full chassis, strut, 4 link car" Box. It's cosmetically challenged though. I'm having a difficult time moving past that, and just putting it together with all the parts I have, and racing the thing.

I took the Barnyard Viper to the Cruise on Central in April, a couple of car shows, drove it to work, and gave friends rides in it, but I hadn't really planned to take it to DW16, because I wanted to make several upgrades to insure it was solidly in the tens on it's next outing.

Disaster struck in July however, when it was sitting on the street in front of my house and Rachael ran over it in her Ranger! She was taking our dogs to the groomers when the Husky jumped from the back area to her lap.

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You know how Drag Week is, while I did talk to Dillon and Charley a few times, it wasn't nearly as much as I would have liked. I think Jason would have been proud of the effort they put in! Dillon explained your absence with a painful look on his face, finishing with..."it hasn't been a good year for Team Ogle".

This is a different Barracuda, Dale picked this car up around 2003 as a roller in Texas, for a friend who wanted a S/ST car. I did mange to buy an Indy low deck tunnel ram this year, now I just need to send it to Monte for a couple of foggers.

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The body damage to the Barnyard wasn't horrible, but she caught the header with her front wheel. Anything but the headers! She says her insurance will pay, but I didn't even know where to start, so I shoved it in the back and decided to revisit the issue after DW16.

Meanwhile, Boone was using me up like his own personal checkbook: "I want one of those Andy F A-body engine plates" OK. "Have you ordered my 440 Source 512/400 stroker kit yet?" Yes Boone, it's on the way. "You put that Hughes cam on a 110 lobe center right? With lightweight EDM lifters? Yeah, Boone, anything else?

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Crazy as it sounds, Late June to early July is typically when the Gebhart Brothers tend to look around and say, "How many spots did we sign up for Drag Week!"
That's when I saw the pictures of the 24 Dodge on Dale's face book page.
"Boone traded his 75 Scamp, and some parts for it", was the answer I got from Dale. I knew as soon as I heard the news, the Dart project for Drag Week was dead...and I had just ordered a set of Hooker fender-well exit headers for him!

Boone has always talked about a 30's Mopar coupe, and this was going to change his focus completely. He called me a week later, "Hey..um...I sold the Dart."
"You what?"
"Yeah, I flipped it, just the way I got it from you."
"You kept the parts, what are you going to do with all the BB-A-body specific stuff?"
"I think Dale and I are going to put his old Duster together for little Billy".
"Why would you get involved with that!" I was exasperated.
"Dale is motivated...he's going to buy all the stuff from me, and all the parts to finish it, I'll just be supplying my motor, and help, then I'll have a ride for DW16!"
"That thing's an absolute pile! Did you make a profit on the Dart?"
He told me how much...It shouldn't bother me but it does, I always trade the stuff I have to my little brothers for exactly what I have in it, and they constantly turn the stuff and pad their pockets.
"You know that 24 is a two or three year project, maybe more right?"
"I know...but this is the one!!"
"For Dale and I's sake, I hope you're right!"

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The 62 Valiant
As I began to prepare the Valiant for a fifth Drag Week journey, fixing or building a new hood was the first hurdle, but it wasn't my only concern. After the 128 mph at Indy, the mph had seemed to fall off, so once again I wondered about the health of the front clutch pack in the 904. The constant battle with engine temp was still on my agenda as well, as it seemed worse on the last drive of DW15.
I wanted to change up the scoop, and to that end had ordered a reverse tear drop, and a Pontiac SD scoop from VFN fiberglass, but were told they were 10 weeks out! My fiberglass guru agreed to make a mold from my last good 62 Valiant hood, and I took it to him about 6 weeks into my wait for the scoops. He finished making a mold and popping out a hood quicker than VFN got the scoops to me, so he used another mold he had on hand to add a RTD scoop.
I was happy with the initial mock-up, but when I attempted to mount a 16" ram-air breather, it became abundantly clear that it wasn't going to work! The Valiant hood slopes off so fast towards the front and the sides that a scoop to cover up a large diameter breather would take up most of the hood!

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Digging through my shed, I found an 11" K&N filter with a 5" element. I was taking the car back to my fabricator, as he had agreed to mount and paint the hood for me, and I figured that would be better than the tiny 6" breather I'd been using with two stacked 2" elements.

So, it was back to the old scoop, as more of a necessity than by choice. The scoops finally arrived from VFN a day before Brian called and said the car was ready to go.

With the hood on the car, it was time to deal with all the other issues that I had ignored for the last 10 months. Chief among those was the decision of what class to run. The ladder bars limit my choices to Modified, or Pro Street, and neither of those classes are broken down by small block or big block, so I'm at a disadvantage already. The fact that I've been able to snag a 2nd place plaque, and a third place plaque out of my four trips had more to do with the number of finishers than it did with how competitive my combo was in the NA classes.

So I asked myself, "even if I showed up at the 2016 edition of Drag Week, ran 10.30's all week in Pro Street NA, and squeaked out another 3rd place plaque would that make me happy or satisfied"?
The answer, being completely honest with myself, was a resounding "NO".

That 9.86 in the Shootout had proven to me that the Valiant was a legit 9 second street car, and my goal for 2016 would be to prove that to the rest of the world. So, the nitrous would be on for the whole trip, and I would be in Modified Power Adder...a class full of 7 second turbo monsters that were going to eat the Valiant for breakfast...oh well. Now that we had settled on a class and a goal, the first hurdle to jump was to get the cage certed.

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I checked the Wild Horse Pass Motorsports Park schedule, and saw they had a "Drift and Drag" event coming up on August 20th. A quick call to Division 7 chassis inspector Ed Brady confirmed that he would indeed be in attendance at that event, so I had a workable plan.

I jumped up early that Saturday morning with the intention of getting the front end aligned, as it was towed out a good deal after the wheel stands in Bakersfield. None of the local shops had time for me however, so that was a bust. I decided to drive the Valiant the 32 mile trek to WHP, and as soon as I got it up to highway speeds, there was a healthy vibration which felt as though it was from the back of the car. The drive took well over an hour as I had to stop five times and cool it down from 230 degrees. Shortly after I arrived at the track a late evening thunderstorm rolled in that threatened to cancel all racing anyway, so I decided not to bother pulling the exhaust off. I cleared tech, and Ed told me to make a few runs, and he would certify the cage once I was done, insinuating that if it failed he didn't want to send me home without getting to run!

With the exception of unloading all my tools and lowering the tire pressure, I entered the lanes exactly as I had drove the car to the track. The F250 in front of me bounced the suspension hard enough to dislodge all the dirt and mud he had collected in the wheel wells for the last month, so after I finished my burnout, I sat and waited for them to sweep the mess up. I was about the 10th set down, and nothing to this point gave me any confidence in the track so I decided to leave on the foot brake at about 1800 rpm. She spun fairly good for the first 30 feet, and when I shifted to second I could feel the return of the vibration that plagued the drive out. Just past the eighth mile the vibration had worsened considerably, and I was convinced one of the Quick Time Pros was out of balance, as I've made enough passes on slicks to recognize the symptoms. Right before the finish line, the passenger side rear mini-quicklatch that we had used to secure the new fiberglass hood on all four corners, let go and the back of the hood on that side lifted about two foot, immediately sending my heart into my throat at the thought of losing yet another hood. I rode the brakes hard, and the hood settled back down. The time booth gal handed me a 10.98-122 slip, and I drove straight to Ed's area to get my cage certed...I couldn't get this night over fast enough.

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I had removed the x-bars from the back of the Valiant when I converted it to a street car (they attached at the same basic point as the down bars, and both sets went all the way in the trunk) since, by the rules they were redundant. They had measured .134 thick with my caliper, so the sonic check shouldn't be a problem if that tubing was used throughout the car, but any cage installed in the early nineties is a roll of the dice in my experience.

I held my breath as he tested all the main tubes, and ran his fingers around all the top welds, since my cage has no gussets.
"It's all good Billy, so you can lay down some nines on Drag Week this year", Ed announced with a big smile on his face. He loves Hot Rod Drag Week, and follows it on the internet every year.

On the drive home, the temperature hovered between 210-230, and the passengers side rear quicklatch came loose every time I exceeded 60 mph.

When I woke up Sunday morning the 21st, I had thirteen days left before "hell week" began with my trip to Tulsa, and my confidence in the Valiant's readiness had just been shaken to the core. I ordered a new Milodon high volume water pump and high flow 160 degrees t-stat from Summit that morning, then I drove the Valiant to my oldest daughters house to babysit the grandson. It seemed to be pulling harder than ever toward the center line, and I noticed a flare up on the two-three shift at half throttle! This was really going south in a hurry.

The trans fluid was about a quart and half low. The Strange 1350 front yoke doesn't have a plug in the back, and fluid runs down the splines and onto the ground anytime the car is resting at an upward angle...like in my driveway, or riding on the back of the two car trailer. The bad news was, if it was low on Sunday morning, it was low on my trip to the track the night before, so I certainly wasn't doing that front clutch pack any favors. I pulled the radiator out, and took a hole saw to the support areas which extended in front of it, looking for any help in cooling I could find.

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I stumbled upon what was probably the biggest culprit of my worsening cooling problem quite by accident. With only seven days until "hell week", I was finishing up the install of the new water pump. I tightened the alternator down with the belt as tight as I could get it, so I could use the belt to grip the water pump pulley while I tightened the four bolts down. The first one was barely above finger tight when the water pump pulley slipped in the belt. I pushed down hard on the belt and tried again, but the pulley slipped easily, while the belt gripped solidly to the alternator and engine pulleys.
I removed the belt and inspected it closely, the sides were burnt quite severely, and the inside of the pulley groove was polished to a brilliant shine. I went to a wider belt, which rides high in all the pulleys, but nothing was available in between, as the O'Reilly's salesman explained that the choices in V-belts were drying up considerably...yet another reminder that my car and I are quickly becoming dinosaurs!

The quicklatch problem was remedied by replacing the latch piece, I had banged it around some trying to remove the hood by myself and it felt completely different than the other three, or a new one, but this didn't leave me extremely confident in them.

When I loaded the old girl on the trailer for the trip to Oklahoma, I still hadn't addressed the alignment, or vibration, or transmission issues, but this was the first Drag Week trip that I drove it on the trailer in Phoenix under it's own power, and I wasn't sure that was a good omen, or a bad one!

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The 67 Belvedere
The Belvedere wasn't making the trip to Hot Rod Drag Week 2016, period, exclamation point. The 2015 results had pretty much closed the door on a no-bar car qualifying for the quick 32 in Street Machine eliminator, and Skippy had asked Rachael to marry him on New Year's eve, so if she wanted to make the trip again, he could pay for it.

I hadn't touched it at all since pushing it off the trailer and into the carport following Drag Week 2015. I didn't feel comfortable replacing the drive shaft without checking out the 727, and the poor 440 is very tired...it pushes oil out of every orifice when the nitrous is applied!

Then, the grumblings started from Oklahoma about the first of August, "There's no way we are going to have enough cars running to fill all four of these entries, so you better get the old girl ready for one more circuit!" I could read between the lines though, what they really meant was, "without the Barnyard pulling a trailer, we need a dependable drag week mule"!

At around that same time Rachael informed me that she was definitely going, she had the vacation scheduled and she had a plane ticket to Tulsa on Thursday night of hell week.
"The Belvedere will only be entered if one of the other guys drop out", I explained to her.
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My original idea was to drag the Belvedere back to Oklahoma untouched, and have my brothers help me swap out the transmission, but as Hell Week approached I was very concerned about the workload they had left on their cars, so I changed it up a bit.

I always attempt to be ready to leave for Oklahoma on Friday evening, as soon as I get off work...and it never happens. I typically get loaded up on Saturday, and head out that night or early Sunday morning. With the old 12 valve '93, and the two-car tag trailer, I'm limited to around 62 MPH, so it's usually a 24-26 hour trip and I pull into Dale's yard early Labor Day morning.

I decided to do the trans swap in the comfort of my own carport instead, and avoid the mess at Dale's for a few more days. The CRT 727 with RMVB was yanked, and the old 727 with forward pattern Trans-go TF-3 was installed. This was the same transmission that had cost Rachael and the Belvedere a DNF on day 1 in 2013, so I hoped Dad got it right this time. Rachael was appalled to realize I hadn't swapped out the slightly burnt shifter cable at the same time, but I explained that it wasn't completely ruined. She mumbled something about me going under the car if it failed during the week, but I was too busy wrapping it with black electrical tape to really understand her.

I fielded calls all weekend from the brothers about when I would arrive to help them, and they were really not happy when I didn't roll out of Phoenix until Tuesday morning, the sixth of September.

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James and the 70 Challenger

James has been Dale's co-pilot for the last 3 years. He was signed up for the last two years with his 70 Challenger (my old race car). After not finishing the car last year, Dale vowed it would make it in 2016, and had basically been ignoring his Gremlin over the last few months. From an outsider's view they seem to be stuck in a constant cycle of "we need to upgrade that" on nearly every component of the car, and that has bogged down any real progress.

With less than a month to go, James hurt his back at work...once he was on worker's comp, and under a doctor's care, they informed him that he wouldn't be allowed to take his vacation that he scheduled six months earlier. He rushed himself back with just two weeks to go, but re-aggravated the injury on his third day back, and was out. He implored Dale to finish the Challenger and take it without him, but Dale declined, so both the Challenger and James were sidelined for Drag Week 2016.

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The Ruster Duster

Darren and Dale purchased this car from a friend of mine in 1984, it was their first car. Dale was just 14, but before he turned 16 he had bought out Darren, and the car was solely his.

When I dropped a 440 in my 73 Cuda, the Duster ended up with my low compression 340 to replace the slant six. After a series of 340s and 360s, I convinced him to go 440 in 1995. After just two years as a BB car, with a best of 10.74 (street car with a plate) he sold it rolling for the money to buy his first back halved, ladder bar race car, a 70 AMX he still owns today.

Twelve years later, he got a call from the guy he sold it to, asking if Dale wanted the car back because his Grandpa wanted it out of his field. The opportunity to get your first car back was one Dale couldn't pass up, so he grabbed a trailer and brought it home. He decided then and there it would be his son's first car.

I tried to talk him out of the idea. It had been sitting without tires and wheels, so the bottom of the quarters were in the soft, moist Oklahoma dirt and were rotted away. It still carried all the dents and scars from Dale's formative years, as well as all the mistakes he made on his first foray into hot rodding.

I had located several rust-free AZ bodies, and tried to convince him to just take a few parts from the original car to build his son a new Duster, but he was not deterred. Until Boone presented him with the opportunity to take it on Drag Week 2016, I really felt like the car would be destined to languish away in his backyard, always on the back burner. Now they had five months to turn it from a scrap heap relic into a functional 9 second street car. Dale's old personalized plate for the car was "Sizzler"...it seemed appropriate now because it was on the front burner, and the fire was turned up high!

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My Brother in Law just got a book self-published, and sent me a nice hard back version with a cool glossy jacket. I'm really jealous, I really want to write a book, but it's always been one of those things about five years in the future. Now I've spent half my day reading articles on the 'net about self-publishing, e-publishing, and the whole process.

If you think getting people to agree on how to build a 600hp 440 is hard on this site, wait 'til you try to get opinions on the process of writing a book!


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it might be a challenge to get a book published, but one thing can not be disputed, you have the ability to write a great one ! up bow
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From the very beginning of the Duster revival project, time and money were stacked against them, and it was obvious some shortcuts would have to be made if the car had any chance of making the show. Dale had installed the Direct Connection kit for moving the springs into the frame rails years ago, but retained the stock slant six Duster leafs. With a 440 for power, Dale recalled that it wasn't the most stable package.
"I found a set of SS springs", he told me on the phone one night as we were having a long distance planning session, "I think they are the 3400 pounders, but they are cheap and the owner brought them to me."
"I'd rather have the Hemi A-body spring. What are those, the 002 and the 003?"
"I get that", he agreed, "but I just need to get this rear-end taken care of as quick as possible. Do you think I need to back brace the 8 3/4 housing?"
"Duh", I laughed into the phone, "Boone wants to go nines right? You need to do everything you can to help it survive! What third member are you guys putting in it?"
"Found a '71 3.91 in a bunch of parts we bought, it's got the 7290 yoke and a sure grip, so it will work", Dale surmised.
"A factory third member with a cone type. Are you crazy?"
"Look, I'm running out of money fast, and I've got to get this thing put together!"
"I understand", I made a decision not to beat him up at that time, "but you know those springs will have it sitting high like an eighties bracket car."
It was his turn to laugh, "It IS an eighties bracket car! With the exception of a big radiator, exhaust, and a tag, that's pretty much exactly what we are throwing together here!"
"What are you doing for rubber?"
28 X 13.50 Hoosier QTPs on ten inch Pro Stars", he recited.
"Still with the Pro Stars, eh?" I had sold him all my old ones ten years ago, and he still seemed to end up with them on every car he had.
"I like to think of them as 'timeless'!" He defended his choice, "I still had a spare set of fours for the front anyway".

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Originally Posted By MoparBilly
My Brother in Law just got a book self-published, and sent me a nice hard back version with a cool glossy jacket. I'm really jealous, I really want to write a book, but it's always been one of those things about five years in the future. Now I've spent half my day reading articles on the 'net about self-publishing, e-publishing, and the whole process.

If you think getting people to agree on how to build a 600hp 440 is hard on this site, wait 'til you try to get opinions on the process of writing a book!


Jay Brown, who you know from Drag Week, had a book published a few years ago with his FE engine dyno testing. He's on his second or third printing. I know he learned a lot from the experience. He would be happy to talk to you about it I'm sure. You can e-mail him though his business - jayb@fepower.net

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Thanks, Kevin.

Ross,
That is a fair question. I think the Road Runner keeps you young and you have good years still in front of you, but as slow as I have been writing lately, it makes me wonder if even I would see it through to completion!



Dale often spends 50-60 hours a week at work, and he was also tasked with building all the motors they would take on Drag Week 2016. The 512 for the Duster was the first to get his attention. Then he had to assemble Darren's 512 for the Charger, and finally try to find time for the Gremlin engine.

Part of the difficulty has always been getting parts in a timely manner, especially with this many projects in the pipeline. Dale makes twice as much money as the rest of us, but steadfastly refuses the use of any credit cards, having learned everything he needed to know about such temptations in his early twenties. So, occasionally the flow of needed parts is stymied by the flow of income into his account. He's a patient, disciplined man who plans accordingly, but his brothers do not possess any of those three qualities, sometimes this leads to problems.

"I need a CSR shield, so we can install the engine and trans in the Duster, and start getting all the other stuff fabbed up", Boone complained on the phone.
"I thought Dale was buying everything for the car?"
"That's the plan, but he has a pretty large list of stuff to order already, and he says the shield is two weeks out. I can't wait that long, and I know you have one that you bought used six months ago with a fresh cert. Just mail it to me."
"Yeah, that's not going to happen. New ones are available now, just order it!
He talked me into ordering it on my card, even though I explained to him that I felt I had paid the Barnyard Viper off in full. It was probably good that I did, as the process of getting the low deck, raised Indy exhaust port 512 with the 2" Hookers and an AndyF engine plate did not go as smooth as they felt it would.
Dale took great pride in the fact that he had installed his old 440 without cutting the "shelf area" on his Duster's inner fender wells, but that wasn't the case with the new combo. Another problem area was the radiator. They wanted to run the big 55GPM Mezziere electric pump. The thick engine plate combined with the long water pump, and a thick aluminum radiator featuring a huge shroud containing two electric fans meant it was impossible for the radiator to fit in the stock location. The time constraints for completion dictated that alternate plans would not be explored, it was time for the family to "get their hack on"!


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Had one of those on a 73 Cuda I raced for a while, Jay. Not sure it would flow enough for a street deal though.

The Gremlin
Other than engine work/swapping, the Gremlin was untouched from Drag Week 2015. So Dale had a grand total of five passes since he had added lighter springs to the new front end setup, and now he would be running an engine about 75 lbs. heavier. The 547 that he picked up along with cash for his 572 Hemi, had turned into a complete nightmare.
Once Dale got the World iron block tore down, he decided to move from the 4.395 bore, straight to 4.500 effectively building a 572. He wasn't exactly comfortable with the spray bar oiled Jesel rockers, so he went with his oldest set of Indy -1 castings, that he has had around since the nineties.
He found himself waiting so late to order a cam that he was limited to whatever solid flat tappet grinds Comp had on the shelf, and he ended up with a 290@.050, .650 lift dinosaur that probably had two inches of dust on the box before they mailed it.

The fact was, the Gremlin was a more of a plan B, safety net deal in Dale's Drag Week 2016 approach, and the 572 was more of a "what parts can I toss together in 2 weeks, and make this happen" last ditch effort.

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I pulled in front of Dale's house a little after 1pm on Wednesday afternoon, feeling as if I'd used up every bit of the respite from fatigue a three hour nap on the seat of the 1 Ton in a Texas rest area had afforded me. Dale had installed a new whistle in his ditch, and added a driveway at the end of his property which would allow much easier access to long rigs, in theory anyway. I quickly discovered that he hadn't bothered with grading out the new white crushed rocks covering the whistle. When the trailer tires came off the humped up rocks, my dove tail trailer used the end C channel like a grader's blade to drag the top 5 inches of rock into the yard with us. The rocks, in turn, destroyed all the tail and clearance light wire that usually sits undisturbed within that same C channel.
The second thing I noticed upon entering the yard was the large, mature shade tree at the end of his property. This tree has provided the work area and base of operations for my Hell Week adventures for the past five years. Apparently the ravages of Oklahoma wind had bested the tree sometime in the last twelve months, and the top of the tree was lying in the spot I usually park in.
I climbed out of the truck and slowly stretched out my legs and back, then ambled towards the shop. Boone, Dale and James were inside, working on the Duster.
After a little small talk, I asked where I could park the Valiant to start on the rear suspension. They agreed I could pull it onto the pad in front of the shop.
"What do you need to do to it?" Boone asked.
"Jim Sam told me the rear was an eighth out the last time he aligned the car three years ago, so I need to get that straight before I take it back to him for another alignment. Since James is here, he can cut the safety tabs off the ladder bar, then weld them back on when we have it done."
"He's building a pan protector for me first", Boone explained. "We put a big aluminum pan on this thing, and I need something to come down off the k-member and keep it from getting crushed by road debris."
"So", I laughed, "an armadillo killer, of sorts?"
All three of them chuckled at the name. Armadillos had entered into Drag Week lore a few years earlier, when Gary Putnam's Pro-Charged Fox body ran over one on the day 1 drive. The resulting damage hampered his effort for the remainder of the trip, and good armadillo jokes have been prevalent in DW bench racing ever since.

I unloaded the Valiant off the trailer and with Boone and Dale's guidance, drove it through the maze of cars until I could line it up with the pad in front of the shop. I grabbed my jack, and a pair of Dale's stands, and raised the rear of the car.
Every part of my body hurt, I really just wanted to go in the shop, sit in a chair and trade stories with the guys while they worked on their stuff, but time was at a premium and if my junk was going to be ready, I was going to have to be a little selfish. When I pulled the rear tires off, I immediately noticed that the sticky weights had been ripped off the inside of the passenger's side tire. I say "ripped off" because there was a scratch mark across the wheel just before and after the area where the weights had been dislodged.
"Well that explains the vibration I had on my last pass", I explained to James.
"What would've knocked those weights off? You taped them, I'm sure", he responded.
"Yeah, the gray duct tape and weights are still on the other wheel", I explained as I peered into the wheel well and let out a low whistle.
"Did you find the problem?" Boone bent down close behind me.
"Yeah, that bolt probably took out the weights when it decided to abandon it's post!"
His gaze followed my finger, and he shook his head, "the upper ladder bar mount on the rear is missing the bolt! Didn't it feel any different?"
"Yeah, it sure did". I paused to recollect, "it shuddered hard on the last leave, and didn't even attempt to pull the wheels, then it pulled harder to the center line than it ever has on the drive home, but I thought it was all in the front."

I pulled the driver's side ladder bar out of the car completely, and James cut off the safety tabs. Then we extended the front heim out an eighth, re-assembled it, and James welded the tabs back in the proper place.

"Can you put the tires back on so we can move it out of the way long enough to get the Duster out of the shop, and the Gremlin in?" Boone was standing over me asking the question, and was clearly surprised by my negative reaction.
"We discussed this before I even parked here! I explained quite clearly that I had a long list of stuff to do to the car!"
I stormed off towards my rig, with him following close behind.
"Look, plans change, everything is in flux right now. If we don't get that Gremlin in there now, Dale is just going to keep working on the Duster, and forget about taking the Gremlin. That can't happen, he busts his butt on everyone else's projects, and he deserves to take his car. The Duster is a long shot at best, but the Gremlin will go together easy, so we need to get him on it right now."
"I looked the Duster over as soon as I arrived", I gave him my best and honest opinion, "There's too much left, it isn't going to make it!"
"I agree", he shook his head, "but Dale won't give up. The Duster needs to go to the muffler shop tomorrow, so that's why it's coming out. Until it returns with new exhaust, Dale needs to be on the Gremlin, nonstop!"
"OK, ok, I get it. Is that why Michelle and Will have been here cleaning on the Gremlin for the last hour and a half?"
"Yeah", Boone smiled, "Had to call in reinforcements, and they know that the Gremlin has to go together tonight!"

We moved the Valiant, pushed the Duster out and Will, Michelle and Boone began guiding the Gremlin into the shop. Dale motioned me over towards the Duster, to help him cover the engine with a moving blanket.
"What do you think?" He asked in a low tone, motioning towards the Duster as he eyed the other three to make sure we wouldn't be heard.
"It's too far away, we'll have to kill ourselves to finish this car!"
"Then that's what we have to do! Little Billy has the week off from school, and he intends to ride shotgun with Boone!" His face was barely able to control the emotion boiling under his dark glare, "This car will go, I don't care about the Gremlin, the Charger, or any of your stuff, this is priority one!"
"OK, fine", I slapped him on the back, and bluffed with the best smile I could muster, "We'll make it happen!"
He walked into the shop and closed the roll-up door behind him.
I turned towards the Valiant, thinking to myself "this is an abbreviated week, but this is going to be a very crazy seventy-two hours ahead of us!"

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With the Valiant relocated next to my trailer, I looked at the rear tires in relation to the wheel well opening and began to think something wasn't quite right.
Boone was working on his little Tow-Me trailer, and had all the tires, wheels, drums, and hubs removed. We've beat on that poor trailer for more than twenty years, so I supposed it could use the maintenance.
I called him over for a second set of eyes. "It looks like the passenger's side is shoved forward and is further out now, and I'm not sure why", I explained.
"Did you re-adjust the diagonal link after you moved the ladder bar?" He asked after a cursory look underneath.
"Uhh...Nope!"
We checked it with a tape measure, X pattern, and it was way off.
"You really didn't expect to just bolt the diagonal back in place..."
"You were rushing me! Besides, I haven't slept all night! I tried to defend myself.
"Well, get it back on stands, so we can adjust it".
"What are you doing to the trailer?" I changed the subject.
"The bearings were all loose, the brakes are shot, the tires are shot. Figured since this is the longest drive we've made to start Drag Week, I'd rather fix it here than on the side of the road".
James came out of the shop, clearly disinterested in helping Dale work on an engine, and joined Boone and I beside the trailer.
"At our shop in Phoenix, we've had to replace many spindles on semi-trailers that were ran for a long time with loose bearings", I explained to them, "the inner race will spin on the spindle and eat it up. I'd hate for you to put new brakes, bearings, and tires on the thing if the axles are screwed up."
Boone ran his fingers over the spindles a few times, then laid on his back to look at the bottom of the spindles. "The bottom is darn near flat! you're right these axles are shot. I wonder if Dale knows someone in town that has new axles in stock."
"Boone, do we really have time to be rebuilding a trailer? We really need to concentrate on the cars", I explained.
"I'll bring my trailer over in the morning", James volunteered.
"This trailer is the only one that will pull the Drag Week trailer", Boone complained.
"I did notice that the Duster now has a receiver hitch", I teased.
"More of my handy work", James confirmed.
"With those 3400lb springs, I think the Duster would pull it fine, but now I'm not sure how we will get it to Ohio", Boone shook his head.
"We'll be fine without a trailer on Drag Week Boone, just as long as we have at least one B-Body, we can bring everything we need!"

The Drag Week trailer has become as diverse and customized as the cars themselves. In the early years you had rented U-Hauls, Harbor Freight bolt togethers and pretty much nothing in between. Now they are limited only by a cubic feet rule, and the builder's imagination. Equally as diverse and imaginative, is how many of these small trailers arrive onsite for registration day. Some are standing on end in a pick-up bed, some are in pieces and have to be assembled on arrival. Watching all this equipment arrive is a spectacle unto itself.

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James and I put the Valiant on four jack stands, and we removed the front tires as well. I was switching back to a new pair of 165/80s on the front to replace the 185/60s that had been pressed into duty last year. We adjusted the diagonal link, and amazingly the 9" looked like it was straight in the car again.
Boone gathered up all my rubber, along with a few of his and Dale's, and headed out for Robertson Tire in Owasso. This trip to our favorite tire store seems to be a rite of passage for every Drag Week.

I spent the time waiting for Boone to return by unloading all the stuff out of the Valiant, Belvedere, and 1 Ton that I had hastily tossed in before the trip to Oklahoma. I sorted through it with importance placed on the tools and supplies needed to do repairs to the cars this week, then I would have to sort through all of it again to pack it away for the trip to Ohio. It's an arduous task which could be much easier if I possessed even rudimentary planning and organization skills.

Will and Michelle bolted the tires and wheels back on the Valiant as the last remaining light from the sky was fading away.
"We really can't do much for Dale in the shop, he's down to small stuff on the engine, and all we were doing is trying to keep him awake!" Will explained.
It was obvious that James, Will and Michelle were ready to call it a day, so Boone hastily hooked up to a trailer and coerced them into assisting us with loading the Duster before they left.

I stretched out on my trailer and put my head in my arms as Boone tied down the Duster.
"You about done?" He asked.
"Yeah, now that it's quiet, dark, and everyone is gone, I'm really feeling it!"
"Are you going to sleep here or at my house?"
"I'll go to your place", I explained, "Dale appears to have a full house right now, so I don't want to put him out."
"You're gonna have to suck it up then", Boone chuckled, "because we have to get in that shop and keep Dale moving on the Gremlin!"
"I'll sit in a chair and talk, while you help him put it together. Will that work?"
"I would expect nothing less from you!" He laughed again.

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When we entered the shop, Dale was putting the engine plate and water pump on the engine. He carefully placed the gaskets on both sides of the plate, with silicone on the multiple mating surfaces as well. We helped him hold everything in place while he started the bolts, then I eased back into a folding chair as promised.
He had the bolts nearly tight, then suddenly he stopped and let out a "what in the heck is going on"?
"The aluminum water pump housing is hitting the Milodon gear drive cover", Boone pointed out.
I had my head back and my eyes closed, but added my two cents anyway. "I thought you already had this engine in the car once?"
"I did, and it leaked water around the engine plate...that's why I was being so careful with the gaskets this time! Apparently I just cranked the bolts down that time, and since the engine had problems, never investigated it further."
I leaned forward and rubbed my face, "So...what are the options?"
"Space the water pump out", Boone suggested.
"I'd have to space the bottom pulley out too, and then change the alternator mount", Dale shook his head. "I'd like to avoid that altogether, I've got too much time into getting all that to work right the first time!"
"Pull the timing chain out of the 440...you know the stock cover will clear". I looked at the two of them, and began to worry this was a make or break moment, backwards was not a direction that interested them at all.
"I re-used the gear drive because I couldn't get the gear off the crank", Dale explained. "This engine was a nightmare to take apart. We had to chain the engine to the hoist legs, and use the hydraulic ram to remove the intake! Everything was glued together, and I was so aggravated by the time I got to the crank...I just left the gear on. I'm willing to go yank the stuff off the 440, but I'll be done if that gear doesn't come off!"

It took Boone and I nearly as long to find a puller in Dale's messy shop, as it did for him to return from the front garage with the cover and timing chain set off the wounded 440.
When he walked back in, I was trying to find a place to set his new fiberglass hood for the Duster.
"What do think of all my fiberglass?" He managed a weak smile, "You said there was no way I would get it all in two weeks!"
"Yeah...I'm amazed, I figured AAR/Stinger was just trying to get your dollars when they said it would make it on time. Looks like they were true to their word!"
"Hood, deck lid, and both bumpers", he pointed to stuff scattered throughout the shop, "and I'm thrilled with the quality!"
"Not a single piece installed yet, though", I retorted as I sat back down in my chair again.
"You get the gear off that crank yet?" He changed the subject.
"I'm just here to supervise..we need a bottle of nitrous to cool the crank, and a torch on the gear...it'll pop right off!"
"How about we just try the puller first?" Boone interjected.
I leaned back and closed my eyes again.

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You know if you would show up at the Regular time this wouldnt happen.LOL

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I was in and out for the next couple hours, sleeping in between small talk. Boone finally nudged me awake to get in the Coronet and head to his house.
"I wanted to help him get the engine in the car, and mated to the trans", Boone explained as we drove away, "he should be able to handle it the rest of the way".
"What time is it?" I finally questioned, only barely coherent.
"Three AM", he confirmed.

Thursday

I woke up around 8, took a quick shower and kicked Boone out of bed. We grabbed fuel in the car, a cup of coffee, and some breakfast at the QT near his house, then went to Drive Shafts Inc. to drop of a 1350 yoke for the Belvedere. We ordered a 3" steel shaft with a 1350 solid U-joint up front, and a 1350/7290 combo in the rear. That would be much better than the stocker 7260 shaft with the 7260/7290 combo that Rachael killed last year.

When we arrived at Dale's to take the Duster to the muffler shop, the Gremlin appeared mostly complete, but Dale wasn't around. His stepson Cody informed us that he had only went to bed about an hour before we showed up, so we decided not to bother him.
We mated the trailer up to the muffler shop rack, and just pushed the Duster straight back off the trailer.
"What does he want on here?" The muffler guy questioned us.
I just shrugged and pointed at Boone.
"I thought Dale called you", Boone looked startled, "I thought it was all hashed out".
"Well, he scheduled an appointment, and told me to just run it down the sides and turn it out in front of the rear tire, but I don't recall what size he wanted."
"Three inch, I guess", Boone decided.
"I'm out of three inch stuff", the muffler guy explained, "So you'll have to run down to Grand Prix and grab some mufflers and reducers if you want to go that route".
Boone threw his hands up, "Alright! We'll be back as soon as we can."
"Dang it Boone! I'd have brought my empty nitrous bottles if I knew we were making a trip to the speed shop today", I complained.
"Never fails to happen during Hell Week!" He shook his head as we drove away.

We dropped off the parts at the muffler shop, and ran by Wal-Mart for some more "Cherry red" paint cans, so we could make sure the Duster was all one color (sort of).
We went back to Dale's, and scuffed up the fiberglass parts for a quickie paint job. We nearly had them all sprayed when Dale walked out in the back yard to finish up the Gremlin.

"When are you guys bringing the Duster back?" Dale asked us straightaway. "I've got the glass guy showing up here in an hour and a half to install the new windshield and all the chrome trim!"
Boone explained the situation with the three inch exhaust and Dale went completely ballistic.
"I told him and I told you, I wanted three and a half! How hard is that to comprehend!" He paraded us around to the back of his shop, "I've got three complete three inch systems right there I could've modified or used parts from if that's what I wanted!"
Boone's mouth was ajar and he shrugged his shoulders with his hands uplifted, but he waited a moment before he spoke. "I didn't remember that, and you didn't write it down..."
"Well, I'm not paying for those parts!" Dale shook his head, "You can put them on a car of yours when we get back from Drag Week!"

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When Boone and I returned from picking up the Duster at the muffler shop, the glass guy was already waiting in Dale's back yard. We rolled it off the trailer, and he started working on it immediately.

Dale had the Gremlin pushed back out of the shop, and we fired it up to break in the cam. I was looking at my phone to time how long the engine had been running when I got a text from Rachael that she was ready to be picked up at the airport in Tulsa. I stole Boone's Coronet to go retrieve her, and made Cody take over the duties as official time keeper on the 572's break-in procedure.

When Rachael and I pulled in Dale's back yard, the sun was fading from view fairly fast. They had already moved the Duster back in the shop, and the front end was back on the Gremlin. Just seeing the Gremlin in one piece, and the Duster with a windshield and all the front and rear window trim reinstalled, made me feel like we just might make it! Michelle had been installing the fan and shroud on the Duster radiator, but she passed those duties off to Boone, and turned to Dale.
"You promised me a ride in the Gremlin!"
"I did", he nodded his head, "and I do need to take it for a test drive and buy some gas, so we may as well cruise down to the station."
"You and Rachael need to grab some tools and help me", Boone suggested, never looking up from the radiator.
"Uh..actually I think we are going to load the Valiant on the truck and trailer that you just rolled the Duster off of, so it will be ready to go to Jim Sam's first thing in the morning for an alignment!"
"Good idea, but help me set this radiator in the car first, then I'll help you line the Valiant up on the ramps", Boone insisted.
Rachael tossed her hands in the air, and gave a disgusted grunt,"I'm standing right here, Boone!"
"Ok, you can help me put the radiator in...but girls don't guide cars onto trailers, that's a recipe for disaster!" Boone started laughing as Rachael gave him an elbow to the ribs.

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With the Valiant loaded up and cinched down, we retired to the shop to watch Boone and Dale continue to work on the Duster.
I took a chair and struck up a conversation while they removed both valve covers, "So, I've only saw Dad for about five minutes since I arrived...".
"He's knee deep in helping Darren get the engine back in the Charger. He parked the motor home over there, so we haven't seen much of him either" Boone explained.
"When did the engine get assembled?" I shrugged, up to this point I really knew little of Darren's effort to make it.
"Last weekend", Dale laughed, "He brought it over here in his Dodge R/T and we pretty much tossed it together on the tail gate!"
"You had the block on an engine stand for a week before that didn't you?" Boone questioned, as he opened a box with "Pushrod Factory, Reed Springs MO" stamped on it.
"No...that was the problem, he brought over the rotating assembly, with the new rings and bearings first, then asked me to grind and gap the rings for him so he could assemble it".
"No way", I exhaled.
"Yeah! So when I explained to him that I had to have the block in order to gap the rings, he decided to bring the whole thing over and let me help him do it here!"
"Must've been eight people with their hands on that thing", Boone chuckled.
"Yeah, for sure", Dale pulled his glasses off, rubbed his eyes and pinched the bridge of his nose as if trying to recall a deeply buried memory. "The two of us, Darren, Dad, Cody, Will and Michelle. It was definitely all hands on deck, but it went together fairly quick".
"I want to build an engine someday", Rachael shook her head. "I miss out on all the fun!"
"Well then get over here and help me get these rockers back on the head", Boone motioned her over.
"But don't dent that pristine fender with your baby bump", Dale added.

I was falling asleep again in my chair, and if we were going to beat the crowd to Sam's Alignment and Brakes in the morning, I needed a good night's sleep.
"Boone, I think Rach and I will take the truck and Valiant to your house tonight. So we can get to Sam's early."
Dale looked up in surprise, "You're going to park the Valiant over at Boone's? In the ghetto?"
"I'll back it up in the drive...it'll be fine."
"So you're going to bail, and I'll just drive the Coronet home?" Boone shrugged.
"Yeah, I mean, Rachael and I have like three stops to make in town, and that way you don't have to be stuck with us."

We left Dale's around 11pm and even so, it was just after midnight when my head hit the pillow.

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Do the brothers follow along with your recaps that you do here?Just asking.LOL.And will they ever learn that DW happens the same time every year?When I sat with the clan on Friday I was expecting to get invited to a bonfire,roast marshmallows and sing songs you were all in such a great mood. LOL

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Darren has threatened to sue me for libel on more than one occasion! When I told him I was thinking about doing a book, he gave me his lawyer's name and number. I think he was just joking...maybe?

Friday
I awoke to the sound of tree limbs rustling outside, and the rumbling of an impending thunderstorm. Rachael and I left without waking Boone, and arrived at Jim Sam's shop thirty minutes before he opened. He takes in alignment work on a first come first served basis, and three years ago when I was in this exact same situation, it took half a day to get the Valiant on the rack. I figured the best way to avoid that was to get there first. We almost had the Valiant off the trailer when the clouds opened up and it started raining.
Jim waved us over and then explained that it would take a few minutes to get all the cars out of the shop before he could take us in.
"It's a mini mopar car show coming out of there!" Rachael exclaimed as Jim carefully backed out a Challenger, a Charger, and a convertible Dart GTS, among others.

"The back eccentrics on the uppers slipped", Jim pointed out as he had the Valiant on the rack. "That's why she's towed out so bad, but everything else is tight."
"Yeah, had some high wheel stands." I explained. What about the rear? We tried to correct the alignment on it."
"Looks like it's straight in the car, but it's toed in a little on the passenger's side, so I'd say the housing is bent a little!" Jim commented as he spun the wrenches to make the necessary adjustments on the front. He had me out in less than an hour and refused any payment.

We had the Valiant back on the trailer when I got a call from Drive Shafts Inc. that the Belvedere shaft was ready to pick up.
"I'm going to have to break drive shafts more often!" Rachael exclaimed when the young man brought out our new drive shaft. He smiled and blushed, then gave us our bill.

"What was that about", I asked Rachael when we got outside.
"Did you see his arms when he carried that thing out? He was smoking hot! Then when he bent over! What a butt!"
"Oh good grief!" You're engaged and pregnant", I admonished her.
"Well, I'm certainly not blind! I can still admire", she laughed and blushed as she climbed in the truck.




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I am starting to wonder how many alignments Jim charges for. I know I have paid for one on my car and the other checkups have been waved off, same with my Dad's car.


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Our final stop was Grand Prix, to top off all the nitrous bottles. The owner of the speed shop and I were discussing the March Meet while his crew was changing out mother bottles. Mike Cox pulled his 53 Ford Gasser in front of the store and walked towards the door.
"Here's a Drag Weeker! Do you know Mike?"
"Yeah...I guess Mike sold his Henry J, and went back to his trusty Customline." I shrugged, as Mike entered with a smile and hand extended.
"When are you headed for Columbus?" He asked as he motioned towards the Valiant on the trailer.
"We aren't even close", I laughed. "We still have two cars that haven't even had the engines fired yet! What about you?"
"I'm loading the Ford as soon as I get home, and we are staying at a friends in St. Louis tonight. It's a long pull, you know!"

I eased the Cummins powered 3/4 ton off the rocks and into Dale's back yard. I made it about thirty feet when I felt the rear tires spinning, and we slowed to a stop. I shut the truck off and stepped out for a look. The front tires were about three inches into the soft mud left by the morning rain, and the rears were simply skimming off the top layer.
"What's wrong?" Rachael asked as I reached for the drive shaft in the back of the truck.
"We're stuck, and I'm not going to tear Dale's yard up trying to get it out. We'll just wait for the ground to dry up some, and get it back here in a couple of hours."
We threw a plastic tarp under the Belvedere, which was still on the two car trailer, and crawled under to install the drive shaft. Once we bolted it in, I dumped in a few quarts of trans fluid, then had Rachael attempt to start it so I could check the fluid level on the fresh 727. The 440 hadn't been fired in a year, so I had to dump fuel in the 750 to get it to finally pull enough from the tank to run on.

With the sound of the 440 running in the backyard, Dale stepped out of the house, and motioned us inside for breakfast.

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Love the workbench smile


He should post that pic in the"clean room" discussion. laugh2

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Dale sat at the table, and looked out the dining room window towards the scattered automotive debris that covered an acre and a half. He had recently dropped 40lbs., which was already paying huge dividends health wise but this morning it only added to the worn down, disheveled look on his face. The profound lack of sleep, combined with the weight loss left his eyes sunken, with pronounced wrinkles at the edges of the dark circles surrounding them. His entire face was nearly devoid of color, but a smile still toyed with the corner of his lips.
"Why do we continue to do this to ourselves?" He pointed toward the plates, then to the scrambled eggs, biscuits, and gravy on the stove.
"I've always made it a point to tell people that we are smarter than we look, but the evidence is overwhelming to suggest otherwise...", I caught myself laughing at my own joke.
"Very sad, and very true", he took a sip of his coffee, "How much do you have left to do on yours".
Rachael set a plate of food in front of me, and asked if I wanted coffee.
"He's capable of getting his own", Dale retorted.
"Naw, he's really not", Rachael laughed then offered Dale a refill, before sitting down with her own plate.
"Oil change on the Belvedere, if the trans works right when we test drive it. The Valiant is good. Where are you on the Gremlin?"
"It runs", he replied, "but those 4.10s in the Dana are howling like crazy! Not to mention they are going to be way too low for that 572. Last year, I was trapping 150 with the 440 at 7500! I really don't want to spin a 572 that tight, and I have a brand new set of 3.73's sitting on the shelf out there with no time left to install them".
"Speaking of time." I took a moment before broaching the subject, "We need to agree on a deadline for getting out of here tomorrow, I can't do the routine again that we did before the trip to Bowling Green. This is the longest trip yet to a starting track, and I don't want to hear any scenario that has us arriving in Columbus thirty minutes before the cut-off of the tech line!"
"What did you have in mind?" He cradled his cup in both hands and looked me in the eye.
"Well, I've got a 62 mph rig, and no co-driver, so I feel that I need to hit the road by noon tomorrow at the latest!"
"I can help you drive!" Rachael threw her hands up in disgust, my inability to trust her behind the wheel of the 1-ton was becoming an increasingly sore subject.
"That's fair", Dale agreed, "but I'm not going to bail on the Duster".
"I'm just saying I may have to leave you guys behind then...If you guys leave later than that, you can run 75-80 if you choose to, and I simply can't", I explained.

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We were all putting our dishes in the sink when my phone rang, it was Boone calling. We had a short conversation, then I briefed Dale and Rachael.
"He's showered and ready to leave his house, but he can't find his wallet. He went out to make sure he didn't leave it in the Coronet, but the door was open, and it appears someone rifled through all his stuff on the console and passenger's seat."
"I told you he lived in the ghetto!" Dale shook his head.
"Well, he can't imagine that he left it in the car, so he wants us to check around here...look in the truck, the shop, the Duster, otherwise he's going to stop at his bank on the way over here."

I walked out to his truck, and checked the cab out thoroughly, then I fired it up and tried to ease forward out of the mud. The yard had dried just enough to allow me to get the thing moving, and I pulled it around back so I could unload the Valiant.
I joined Dale in the shop, where he was searching for Boone's wallet on the shelves and in the Duster.
"The last time I saw it", Dale pointed to the roof of the Duster, where the AAR hood was now resting. "He left it up here on the hood."
I was leaning on the back of the car checking out the trunk area. They had a giant plastic fuel cell mounted as far forward in the trunk as possible, the outlets were plumbed with steel braided hose to a huge MagnaFuel ProStar 500 pump and filter, but nothing beyond that.
"The fuel system isn't plumbed yet?" I looked up at Dale.
"No...not wired either, fuel log/regulator up here in the front isn't fully plumbed yet...it's going to be a long day", he shook his head.
Rachael walked in with a big smile on her face, "I've got good news, and I've got bad news!"
"Out with it", I implored.
"I found Boone's wallet, but he left it out on the back of our trailer, so with this morning's rain, it's soaked through and through!"
"I'm sure he won't mind", I smiled at her as I pulled out my phone to call him.


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Boone rolled into Dale's backyard well after noon, and made his way into the shop to check on the Duster.
"Darren called me a while ago and said he wasn't going to make it", Boone commented.
"He says that every year, probably just wants some of us to go over there and help him", I concluded.
"He's just frustrated, I think he stripped out one of the bolt holes that thread into the trans case".
Sounds about right, his 'magic elbow torque wrench' never has been calibrated for aluminum threads!"
Dale guffawed then added, "I resemble that remark!"

Boone started discussing a wish list of things he wanted Rachael to pick up for him, so I decided to excuse myself from the shop so I could finish up on the Belvedere. I'd been under it for about fifteen minutes when Rachael came out and asked for my bank card so she could pick up a few things for us as well. Boone came out a few minutes later, added something to her list right before she left, then made his way over to where I was working.

"What are you doing now?" He asked somewhat tersely.
"Figured I'd change the oil, and take it for test drive". I explained
"You know, if you would have showed up here Sunday night, with your stuff ready to go, we'd have had a much better chance of getting all our cars done!" He spun around and headed back to the shop.
"Wow! I'd have expected that response from just about anybody else in Oklahoma before I would have seen it coming from him", I thought to myself.

I spent most of the afternoon concentrating on my cars out in the yard and avoiding the shop entirely, mainly because I was still miffed at Boone's attitude. When the sun went down though, it didn't make any sense not to get in the shop and see if I could find something to do. Dale's son Billy was out of school, and fired up to help on "his" car, but I could tell he was driving Boone and Dale crazy as they worked on the front of the car.
"Billy, what do you say we figure out how to get this new fiberglass trunk lid mounted on the car", I motioned him towards the back. He was receptive to the plan so we broke out the new hood pin kits, and I turned the kid loose with a drill to make holes in virgin fiberglass! Since I live twelve hundred miles from my nephew, and his Dad only has him part time, I came to realize that this was probably the most involved I had ever been with him, and I really enjoyed it, despite the buzz of activity that was going on around us.

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Made me chuckle. "If you would have showed up here Sunday night,wi th your stuff"

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Made me chuckle. "If you would have showed up here Sunday night,wi th your stuff"

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Donnie, the website was doing stupid things, and I thought I was going to lose my post, so I just submitted it, then edited it once I re-booted.

At around 11pm, I grabbed Rachael and told her it was time for us to bail. This would be our last chance to get a decent night's sleep, and I wasn't going to waste it.
"We'll drive the Belvedere over to Boone's, twenty-seven miles will be a good practice run", I told her as we jumped in. I explained to her three times that she had to remember this trans was forward pattern. Then as we were jumping out on the highway I pulled it back from second to first again.
She stuck her hands out and grabbed the dash as the car threw her forward. "What the heck, Dad!" she shouted.
"Just giving you an example of how catastrophic it can be if you revert back to a reverse shift pattern...".
"You are an idiot", was her immediate assessment.

"I'd forgotten how much I enjoy just driving this car", I looked over at her and smiled before we arrived back at Boone's place. "I can't believe I let this thing sit in my car port for a solid year without touching it."
"Yeah, 365 days for what? Eight hours worth of work? You bum!" She tossed her hands up in feigned disgust, but she had a smile on her face.

Saturday

The first thing I noticed when I drug my carcass out of bed Saturday morning was that Boone had never came back home. That was not a good sign.
Rachael and I pulled our laundry out of the dryer, packed our bags, and jumped in the Belvedere. We hit the McDonald's drive through for breakfast and rolled into Dale's around nine.
Boone and Dale were still working on the Duster, and both of them looked like Walking Dead extras. An hour later, Boone headed to his house to get a shower, and pack his clothes for the trip.
My cars were loaded, ratcheted down on the trailer and Rachael was helping me pack away all our supplies, when Dale asked me to help him break the cam in on the Duster. I looked at my phone to track the amount of run time we put on the 512, and realized it was 1:07pm...already an hour later than our agreed upon Noon deadline!


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Dale was spraying water on the radiator, and the 512 was humming along at 2500, when the black paint on the fender wells above the headers started bubbling up, so we shut it down for a while.

Boone returned with all his stuff, along with some bad news.
"Darren just called and said the Charger is out, they started to fill the radiator and the water went straight into the pan!"
Dale leaned forward in the Duster, shaking his head. "I told him he should've used a different block!"
"OK, you told me he left water in last winter and the Indy heads were cracked, so he bought a new set", I looked back and forth between both brothers with my hands on my hips. "Now, you're telling me he tried to re-use the block?"
"He waited so late to get started on it...and the only machinist that could get it done in time doesn't have the ability to pressure test anything. We checked it out and it looked fine, he told Darren to take it somewhere else and test it if he wasn't comfortable..." Dale's voice trailed off.
"So, what's the plan now?"
"Dad is coming over to help me drive", Boone explained, "Darren and Sherri have already taken vacation and planned for this, so he's going to get cleaned up, packed, and just follow along in the Ram R/T like he did last year".
"Well, I guess Rachael and I better get on down the road then, because you guys sound like you're on the 'drive 90 and show up at the last minute' plan again."
"I'm not going with you Dad!" Rachael shook her head.
"What do you mean?"
"Dale is a zombie, he's been awake for 36 hours, little Billy doesn't have a license, and unlike YOU...DALE'S not afraid to let me drive his rig! So I'm hauling the Gremlin, and YOU are on your own!"
"Were you in on this double cross as well", I questioned Boone.
"I may have suggested it", he managed a weary smile, "not really sure, we're all kinda tired and all...".

Family being what it is, I stuck around until they were nearly loaded before I jumped in the twelve valve and headed out for Ohio. The 1 ton was on empty, so I stopped and grabbed 25 gallons of diesel two miles from Dale's place. I looked down at the receipt before I put it in my wallet, "3:14pm, Whew, three hours behind already!"

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I can run 67 mph comfortably with the old Cummins, but I don't have weight bars or a sway bar on my tongue pull two car trailer, and above 62 it likes to shuffle around a bit. Traveling by myself, I'm a grinder, so I just put it on 62 and go until it runs out of fuel. That strategy got me to the Flying J at Sullivan Mo. a tick after 9pm. 331 miles at 13.5mpg, it's hilly Ozark country, so I was happy with that. The 24 ounce coffee was a good 6 ounces of hot chocolate, but that seems to delay the amount of time I can run on a straight coffee diet before it starts tearing up my stomach. The next leg took me through St.Louis and Indianapolis, until I pulled into the Speedway at Knightstown Indiana, 346 miles covered on that tank. We'd lost an hour crossing into the eastern time zone, so it was 4 Am local time. I'd been in constant contact with the brothers, and all of them seemed to be doing OK, they had been within twenty miles of catching me a few times, but they were all stopping more often than I was.
Ten miles later Darren blew around me, then Dale caught and passed me somewhere after we crossed the Ohio border. Rachael had been following Boone at a sane speed while she drove, but with Dale awake and behind the wheel, they were moving along pretty good. It was dawn before I entered Columbus, but on a Sunday morning the traffic was light.

Now, according to Google maps, from the time you exit I-70, onto Ohio 37, and then take a left at the traffic light onto US-40 and arrive at the entrance of National Trails Raceway, you will have covered two miles in roughly three minutes. Google didn't account for the other 350 Drag Weekers intent upon doing the same thing apparently and when I arrived in the small town of Luray, with it's one traffic signal, these outlaws from across the globe had brought the sleepy little town to a stand still. Worshipers seeking to arrive at the Luray Christian Apostolic Church were not thrilled with us.
I decided that sitting in a left hand turn lane while everyone filled the intersection going right on red from the other direction was a bad idea, so I went across the road and did a u-turn to come back the other way. Turned out to be a worse idea because the line was over a 1/2 mile long from that direction. It wasn't all bad, because I was catching cat naps between each time the line moved. An hour and a half later, I finally arrived at the entrance shack to the track. A small car ran up beside me to cut in line, and the driver flashed a card and lanyard at me, then he stuck his head out and explained, "We're the tech officials, and we need to get in there ASAP!"
I waved him by and thought to myself, "If those are the two NHRA track tech officials, how many cars have made it through registration since the gates opened two hours ago?"
I would have my answer soon enough.

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After reading all the trials and tribulations that the "G Clan" goes through(put them selves through?) in a mad thrash right before drag week begins, I can't help but think of "dog years".
You know, a dog ages 7 years for one human year.
Seems like the way the G Clan does it there has to be some added wear and tear on the body and mind. I don't know what the correct ratio would be, but it sure seems like maybe they're getting 3 or 4 drag weeks worth of blood, sweat, and drama stuffed into one drag week.

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After reading all the trials and tribulations that the "G Clan" goes through, it sure seems like maybe they're getting 3 or 4 drag weeks worth of blood, sweat, and drama stuffed into one drag week.


There is a group of Drag Week participants who always arrive at each track on time, with a cup of coffee, clean clothes, and a big well rested smile. They stand around talking about getting to the motels before dark, then sharing pizza and beer in the parking lot while everyone else arrives. I don't think it would make for quite as interesting a story, but I sure would like to try a Drag Week like that just once!


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As my stories have expanded every year, I like to think I try to tell as complete a story as my memory allows, and I try not to gloss over the gory details of what happens when you show up unprepared or things don't go your way. After six years of doing this, I've also been made acutely aware of the fact that writing and posting stuff on the internet about real people and real events does not take place in a vacuum. Generally the response has been favorable, but when you are critical of the processes or handling of certain issues, sometimes people may feel said criticism is unjust.

One such area is Drag Week tech. I think I've been honest in my reviews, but perhaps I should've been less vocal about it on certain face book sites and web boards. It's just that it chaps my hide when some DW rookie comes on the internet trying to get approval for something he's done to his car which may change the class he's put in, or asking about some rule in the NHRA rule book which only applies to Pro Stocks at National Events, and everyone always refers the poor guy to Keith Turk, which to me is like advising your friend who won five thousand cash in a street race to call the IRS and ask if he should report it on his taxes, or asking the prison warden if it's OK to bring in contraband!

One of the things that I've pointed out (many times, on many sites) was the fact that the Hot Rod Tech sheet only had one line for the NHRA tech official to fill out, which simply listed the minimum ET which the car was allowed to run. My argument was, "How serious do you think they are about enforcing the NHRA rules when this is all the sheet has on it!"

Now, you may look upon me as a scofflaw, or a rule bender, or even an outright cheater, but I've always approached tech at any event much the same way a batter faces a pitcher or a receiver goes up against a defensive back. As such, you want to scout your competition, so anytime I arrive at a track, I like to go up and watch a few cars go through tech and figure out what the procedure is, and what each inspector is looking for. All of them have specific favorites they like to check for, and all of them have a clock in their head as to how long they can spend on each car. Is the inspector a talker? Do they like to start at the front of the car, or with the paperwork, or with the safety gear? Knowing all this before your car is next in line is key to hiding the things on your car that aren't up to specs, and trust me, in 32 years of attending drag strips, I've never had a car that was 100% legal.

So, while most of our crew was unloading cars and gear, I made my way to the head of the line to watch. It appeared to me that the Drag Week staff was watching me with a wary eye as I was lurking around, but perhaps it was only my own guilty conscience. I didn't like what I saw. In years past they had one NHRA tech who was just running around between the cars in line checking the boxes on each sheet and handing them back to the drivers, then the final check was lights, horn, and the street stuff. This year everyone was required to fill out a full NHRA tech card in addition to the Drag Week sheet, and the two NHRA techs were doing full inspections after the cars cleared all the Drag Week street stuff!
This meant it would be harder to slide things past the gendarmes, if that was your intent. The second consequence was, that it would take longer to clear registration, on a day when they were getting a late start and there were a record number of entries. Sunday was shaping up to be a long, grueling, interesting day!

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After reading all the trials and tribulations that the "G Clan" goes through, it sure seems like maybe they're getting 3 or 4 drag weeks worth of blood, sweat, and drama stuffed into one drag week.


There is a group of Drag Week participants who always arrive at each track on time, with a cup of coffee, clean clothes, and a big well rested smile. They stand around talking about getting to the motels before dark, then sharing pizza and beer in the parking lot while everyone else arrives. I don't think it would make for quite as interesting a story, but I sure would like to try a Drag Week like that just once!


I just thought you guys figured if you didn't do it this way that you wouldn't feel like you were getting the full DW experience.

Btw...... I'm a buyer when the book comes out!!


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After reading all the trials and tribulations that the "G Clan" goes through, it sure seems like maybe they're getting 3 or 4 drag weeks worth of blood, sweat, and drama stuffed into one drag week.


There is a group of Drag Week participants who always arrive at each track on time, with a cup of coffee, clean clothes, and a big well rested smile. They stand around talking about getting to the motels before dark, then sharing pizza and beer in the parking lot while everyone else arrives. I don't think it would make for quite as interesting a story, but I sure would like to try a Drag Week like that just once!


I just thought you guys figured if you didn't do it this way that you wouldn't feel like you were getting the full DW experience.

Btw...... I'm a buyer when the book comes out!!


It was great meeting you and your family at Martin MI Billy.

Dwayne I figured this was like a contest, to get them amped up FOR the contest!
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Dwayne I figured this was like a contest, to get them amped up FOR the contest!


You might be on to something there.
Like a right of passage ritual...... Where you have to prove yourself worthy before being allowed to go to the next level....... DW itself.


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and everyone always refers the poor guy to Keith Turk, which to me is like advising your friend who won five thousand cash in a street race to call the IRS and ask if he should report it on his taxes, or asking the prison warden if it's OK to bring in contraband!
ROFLMAO!!!

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Not to take anything from Billy's great story but this is a good tale of one participant's adventure.

This post is a recap of the Hot Rod Drag Week experience by Hilborn’s EFI Specialist Andrew Starr. He drives a very nice 56 Chevy, but Mopar driver Scott Abbott and his wife Kim played a big part saving Mr. Starr's bacon on the road Day 2.

It does a very good job of capturing the essence of Hot Rod's Drag Week.

http://hilborninjection.com/drag-week-2016/

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Not to take anything from Billy's great story but this is a good tale of one participant's adventure.

This post is a recap of the Hot Rod Drag Week experience by Hilborn’s EFI Specialist Andrew Starr. He drives a very nice 56 Chevy, but Mopar driver Scott Abbott and his wife Kim played a big part saving Mr. Starr's bacon on the road Day 2.

It does a very good job of capturing the essence of Hot Rod's Drag Week.

http://hilborninjection.com/drag-week-2016/


GREAT read! Scott and Kim are great people also. Have always enjoyed talking with them the last 2 years.


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GREAT read! Scott and Kim are great people also. Have always enjoyed talking with them the last 2 years.

Yes! I got to know the Abbott's in the staging lanes at Bowling Green (2013?) when Scott won the Daily Driver (now Street Machine Eliminator) Top 32 race and Clark was fourth. We have seen them at every Drag Week since.

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Awesome read, thanks for sharing Bill!!


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Nick,

Glad you enjoyed it, I just stumbled across it on the Hilborn site.

It was nice to meet you on Drag Week this year.

Bill

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Likewise, Bill! Curious to see if some of the regular DW guys here are going to enter in 2017.


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I've been "recruited" for 2017. Unfortunately, as support for brand X. Still looking forward to it though!


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Thanks Billy, Drag Week is on my bucket list.

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Likewise, Bill! Curious to see if some of the regular DW guys here are going to enter in 2017.
Nick,
I am sure many will be there, but most will want to see the track listing first.

I sure would like to see Larson back in Unlimted.

After finishing five years straight Clark is planning to take the year off, however if it starts in Tulsa he might reconsider.

Bill

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however if it starts in Tulsa he might reconsider.

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It doesn't...


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It doesn't...
Not surprised but where does it start...

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It doesn't...
Not surprised but where does it start...


I've been sworn to secrecy.


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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX

It doesn't...
Not surprised but where does it start...


I've been sworn to secrecy.


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It doesn't...
Not surprised but where does it start...


I've been sworn to secrecy.



If you really have the inside edge as to tracks etc for dragweek do you know when hot rod will release the dates and tracks for the 2017 event ?

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Safe bet is the full week after Labor Day, which would make it the 11th through 15th this year. Not confirmed though.

Bill, it seems that Doug Cline/Joe Barry/Larry Larson are going on Rocky Mountain race week instead of Drag Week. I think that version has an actual payout for the winner, not sure if that is their motivation or not.


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Joe and Michelle are hopefully taking 2 56s on RMRW and its in their back yard.Last year they skipped DW because they were not able to pull their son out of school.

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Long drive up to Cordova this year!

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Think this year I'll just go to the start in Cordova.Been 8 times and need a change.Think I'll enter RMRW as I've never been to Kearney or Pueblo.Jim,if you route has you coming through T-town and you need anything let me know.

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Long drive up to Cordova this year!
You might be surprised that it is a little less than it was last year to Hebron.

Of course for you the tow is measured more in days than hours!

What are your plans for this year as far as the race car?

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I was thinking of the Gebharts when I said it's a long drive...it's always a long drive for me.

I'm not planning anything different for the current race car. I have plans to build another one, but it may or may not happen.


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I walked back to our pit area, and found Rachael looking through a brown leather satchel placed on the hood of the Belvedere.
"Where did you get that?" I asked her as I approached, quickly recognizing it wasn't anything our group had brought along.
"Someone left it out on the side of the road, before we came through the gate", she explained. "Dale and I saw it when we moved up in line the second or third time. It has a laptop in it, motel instructions, a bunch of other stuff, someone must be going crazy right now."
"Anything with a name yet?" I asked as I peered over her shoulder into the bag.
"Aha", she exclaimed, "this will tell us!" She pulled out the eight page technical questionnaire that Hot Rod gives to each competitor that details everything about your entry. It had already been filled out completely.
I read the first line, "1973 Opel Ascona, yep Rach, that's the little compact with the nitrous big block chevy from Sweden! I saw them near the front of the tech line, lets go give it to them."
She followed me to the front of the tech line towards the strange looking grey two door post Opel, and we walked up to a young man trying to hastily fill out a new questionnaire on the trunk lid of the car.
"Might be easier to turn in the one you already filled out", I smiled and extended the paperwork towards him.
He looked up with a blank expression towards me, but his face lit up when he recognized the satchel in Rachael's hands.
"Wow! Where did you find it?" He asked with a big smile on his face.
Rachael explained it as his partner walked up from the front of the car. They both breathed noticeably easier, and were genuinely appreciative, even though you could tell they were still overwhelmed by the magnitude of the task ahead of them. It felt good to know we had helped them avoid the first pitfall of the week, but the young Swedes, Magnus and Dennis, would face many more if they wanted to complete Drag Week 2016.

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Back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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It seemed at though the rest of our crew had their second wind, no doubt buoyed by the naps they had stole while trading off during the drive. I was hammered, and decided to put the Valiant in the tech line straightaway, then catnap in the car as the line moved oh so slowly. As late as three years ago the tech line was filled with anxious racers who would cut around you, and crowd in to try and get through as quickly as possible, it has since transformed into an all day parking lot car show, complete with canopies, lawn chairs, and drinks with umbrellas in them. The laid back approach is a godsend, for those like me, trying to catch up on sleep; or those like my brothers, trying to re-wire an entire car that hasn't seen direct current in fifteen years. Everyone mills about touching base with old friends, making new ones and generally making jokes about those who didn't make it. It's a good time really, if you are conscious, and I pretty much wasn't for the first two hours or so. When I finally began to gather coherent thought again, I stepped out of the Valiant and took stock of our situation: I had moved the Valiant forward in the line about 200 feet, Rachael now had the Belvedere in line, and the three little brothers were still gathered around the Duster, exactly where they had pushed it off the trailer when we arrived!
I ambled over and asked when they intended to join the party.
"It's only 11 or so...the back of the line doesn't cut off until 1, or is it 2...and we still have a ton of work." Dale commented without even looking up to acknowledge me.
"The darn thing fired up on it's own and drove on the trailer at home, how much more does it need to get through tech?" I implored, my voice raspy with irritation.
"Yeah, sure it did!" This time he did look up, "with the fuel pump hot wired to the battery, and the ignition box wires twisted together! Basically I'm trying to re-create what we did to the Barnyard Viper in four days, but I'm trying to accomplish it on Tech and Registration Day!"

I decided to return to the Valiant, I just didn't need that kind of stress in my life at that moment.

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Hi Joel!

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That's the last time you're going to see that parade car at Drag Week!


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That's the last time you're going to see that parade car at Drag Week!


That's a beautiful car, glad to see it stretch its legs a little.


Glad to have the next installment Billy.


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Its on the Internet so Im holding you to that.Just sign the Title over to me and we will call it good.


You would have to get in line... First would be his wife, then kids, then his trusted hard working trunk monkey.


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Yes, happy birthday to the Trunk Munk Extraordinaire! He kind of looks like David Spade with a haircut, doesn't he?


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Yes, happy birthday to the Trunk Munk Extraordinaire! He kind of looks like David Spade with a haircut, doesn't he?



Swab and deboner... LOL
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Sometime after noon, it became just warm enough to be uncomfortable sitting in the car looking at my eyelids, so I decided to stretch my legs, do some socializing, and check out the competition.
Glenn Bridger was back with his red 68 Camaro, and it was detailed to the nines, looking fantastic. We had battled last year for 2nd/3rd in Pro Street/NA, and he covered the Valiant and I by a few hundredths.
"Same class this year?" He asked me as he shook my hand with a big smile.
"No,I decided I wanted to spray it this year, so I'm jumping to Modified PA", I explained.
"Geez", he expounded with a surprised look on his face, "you better have a whole bunch of nitrous to play with those guys!"
"I can't possibly hang with all those turbo cars, and big blocks! I just want to go as fast as I can, and lay down some good numbers. What about you, any changes to the car?"
"No, exact same combination, just washed it off and brought it back", he replied.
"It looks awesome today!"
"Believe it or not, it looked this good on Registration Day last year too...by day three, not so much!"

I moved away, and headed towards a white Duster which had already finished the registration process and had a "D" on the windshield signifying it was a Pro Street NA competitor as well. One constant in Drag Week has been that if you stand still with your combination, and don't make improvements, you are backing up, I felt if I battled it out with Glenn again in the 10.50 range, we would be fighting for 5th/6th this year, even with the pair of 8 second monsters who had owned the class not in attendance. Jeff Atkinson had returned with the old yellow CARS Camaro, and that car ran easy 9.50's last year before bowing out because his buddy Jon Wischmann broke on Day 1. Both Jeff and Jon looked ready to put 2015 behind them, and Jon is a four time finisher, so I had no doubt they would make a full pull this year.

The white 70 Duster was beautiful, everything Dale had always dreamed the Ruster Duster would be when he was a kid. I chuckled at myself, "probably still wishes it had turned out this good". I looked over almost involuntarily to where Dale, little Billy, Boone, and Pops were working on the Ruster Duster. They had pushed it to the back of the line, and had the canopy draped over the front of the car. Darren and new girlfriend Sherri had his Silver Ram behind them in line, using it as an oversized jump box and tool bin. My eyes went back to the white Duster in front of me; big wheelie bars, parachute, aluminum wing, lift off 'glass trunk lid with a gas filler flap in the middle of it, steamrollers on bead lock wheels, 512 Wedge call out on the black six-pack hood and the fancy enclosed trailer it was set up to tow along. No way anything we brought could measure up to the quality of this car.

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Many people who may read my stories or casually watch Drag Week as it unfolds may think it's roughly the same group of people and cars year after year, but the cold hard numbers tell a different story completely.

Over the past five events, we've averaged about 40% new entries every single year. Also, about 11% of the old competitors, show up with new rides every single year, so there is always plenty of new hardware to check out, and new people to meet on registration day!


2012-187 total entries 82 rookies
2013-230 total entries 93 rookies
2014-307 total entries 146 rookies
2015-305 total entries 118 rookies
2016-356 total entries 156 rookies

Think about that, they had 50 more cars to process this year, and 156 of them had never been through this gauntlet before!

The excitement I felt checking out Scott Hendrix's White Duster, reminded me of how I was last year when I first saw Terry Keifer's Bronze 67 Barracuda at St. Louis. Terry, and the fast back fish were back for another try, but even from across the parking lot something was clearly different. In 2015 Terry was running a single turbo through a carb on the 440, with the exhaust exiting just behind the driver's side front tire. This year the typical fender well exit headers with exhaust running just under the rocker panels that have been a dead giveaway of big block powered A-bodies for decades, were clearly visible under the 67.
"Terry, Terry, Terry! What have you done?" I thought to myself, as I spun away from the Duster and headed for the barracuda with the hood up. My jaw dropped, as I realized all the turbo stuff was long gone, replaced with a plate nitrous system!

top: 2015 turbo
Bottom: 2016 N20

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That's great information, I kind of thought it was always the same group of drivers ever year. I really want to get a car together and run it this year if I can get entered...looks like it would be a good time.


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Like a diamond set against a field of rubies and sapphires, the shiny natural aluminum body on Derek Mueller's 4wd 77 Toyota Land Cruiser was also demanding attention. I gave a cursory look, expecting to see yet another turbo LS, and was pleasantly surprised to find a nitrous assisted small block Mopar sitting between the gleaming fenders. Truly an amazing, out of the norm build that Drag Week is famous for.

Much like Mike and Lane Sporrong did in previous years with their Silverado "Pre-Runner". Derek and his co-driver were doing the full on 4 wheel switch-over every day, pulling off a big ole' set of off-road mudders to swap on front runners and slicks! My back stated hurting just contemplating the thought of doing that twice a day.

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I was relishing the opportunity to finally see James Pranis'(572charger, Moparts) bad 68 Hemi Charger, having admired it on this site, and the pages of magazines for years. I have to say the car doesn't disappoint close up and in person! It has roughly the same effect on people as the Terminator walking through a police station with dark shades, black leather jacket, and sawed off shotgun!
I was walking around the B body, taking in the sheer brute force of it all when the sound of Dad's voice shook me from my reverie.
"I've got to run into town for some parts, you need anything"? He asked, holding something with wires hanging down in his right hand.
"No, not that I can think of, but what is that?" I gestured towards his hand.
He turned it palm up, and opened his fingers to reveal a broken turn signal switch.
"Came out of the Duster, Dale called around and found one, so I'm going after it", he explained.
"How did he get the steering wheel off?" I shook my head in disbelief.
"Borrowed a puller from either Jesse or Squirrel, I'm not sure which", Dad smiled.
I had to chuckle, "Yeah, those would have been the first two guys I'd have asked, for sure!"

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Notable among the Mopar entries were the pair of twin turbo wedges, which have already proven their seven second mettle on previous Drag Weeks, the Canadian based 72 Swinger of Matt Blasco, and the Australian based 72 Valiant Charger of John Faraone. While the contrast in their cars, and personalities is readily evident, both seem to share a yearning to constantly push their rides to the limit in search of another tenth, or a couple more mph! This would be Matt's second attempt at Drag Week, and John's fourth, should they make the full tour, one of these two would be the quickest Mopar of DW 2016.

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"There are walls made of paper, and walls made of stone. And some that are made out of livin' alone" is the first line of a song by the Steeldrivers. I sat back in the Valiant and looked at my NHRA tech card, and my Drag Week entry sheet with pen in hand, and rubbed my eyes. I had no intention of letting a wall of paper stand between me and my dream of a nine second Drag Week. The car was legal, cert was in place, as well as all required safety equipment, and I was a licensed driver...emphasis on the was. When I renewed my license in 2014 I had dropped the 7.50 portion because I didn't want to go take a physical (a requirement they have since dropped), and since the plan was a 10.00 street car, I just renewed my competition numbers and let the 4b code go. I would run the 6 passes and renew it once I returned to Phoenix, but I needed to get through tech today with a green light to 8.50.
Dale had just renewed his, and had a temporary sheet from NHRA, because their license printer was down and they were a month or more behind on printing new licenses. I decided to list him as driver and carry his sheet through tech, figuring they were going to be looking at those temp sheets all day long.. I practiced spacing the letters of "Dale" out enough to cover it over with "Billy" after the fact, and once I had it down I wrote Dale on the driver line as lightly as I could. I knew they would give the tech card back, so writing over it would be easy, still I was worried about getting a hold of the white Drag Week sheet again.

I saw that Ray (sixpackgut, Moparts) and the "Black Pearl" Barracuda had cleared tech, so I went over to see how it went for him. Like me, he intended to run nines this year, and while his paperwork was all in order, there had been a few minor things that didn't meet the letter of the law on the car. Ray is not as versed in such subterfuge as I am, so I had given him a few tips to make sure these infractions went undetected.
"Are you good to run as fast as you want?" I asked as we exchanged greetings.
"Yeah, I'm good to 8.50! You need to come over and pick up all that nitrous stuff you bought from me though, since I'm in an N/A class, it doesn't look good having two bottles in my pit!"
I had answered a facebook ad months earlier, and purchased much of Ray's N20 parts inventory, but we agreed to save on shipping and just have him bring the stuff to Drag Week.
"Cool, I'll do that, I'm just glad you reminded me the other day, as I had already forgot about it!"
Conversing with Ray always puts a smile on my face, even after the long trip. He just exudes enthusiasm, and it seems contagious, I headed back to the Valiant with a little more pep than I had earlier.

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I moved the Valiant another 60 feet up in the line while I filled out my paperwork then decided to check with the brothers. They were still stringing wire throughout the Duster, with no end in sight.
"You gaining on it?" I questioned Dale and Boone, who were hanging out around the trunk.
"Taillights work, and the turn signals. Just finished putting the ends on all the battery cables." Boone explained as he handed Dale a couple more butt connectors.
"Did we get the brake lights, Boone?" Dale looked up as if clearing a checklist in his head.
"Yeah, just had to fiddle with switch on the pedal a bit."
"Ok, what do we need to move forward in the car? I want to finish out the trunk and be done with this part."
They looked pretty hammered by this point, and I moved on, not wanting to hold them up. I checked on Rachael, and explained to her that Darren would have to be with her when she went through tech, since we were using his entry.
"They will probably list him in the results", I explained.
"I don't care about that", She smiled. "Just as long as I get to make passes on all five days, I'll be happy!"
Well...at least one of us was going into this with the right attitude!

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It was 4:15pm by the time I finally approached the head of the lanes, where Keith Turk was standing with the go/no go tire gauge, and directing people from the two lanes we had been in all day to the four lanes of cars in tech.
Just as I pulled up, he handed the gauge to Hemi Joel, and decided to take a break. I had no qualms about trying to influence Keith into putting me in one of the left two lanes, heck I may have even bribed him with a cold diet Coke, but I didn't feel comfortable trying to use my friendship with Joel to my advantage; in the words of Doc in Tombstone, "My hypocrisy only goes so far"!

He directed me into the right lane, behind his buddy Jay Brown in the 69 Shelby Mustang. This meant I would be teched by the gal who wasn't giving the drivers back the white sheet...not an ideal situation for me. I staged all my safety equipment on the passenger's side seat and floorboard, then sat the temp license on the tunnel facing that door. This meant if she wanted to examine it closely, she would have to reach past everything else to pick it up. I made it through the gauntlet of volunteers checking lights, horn, brake lights and signals with no problems, then pulled up to the NHRA tech official.
I felt sorry for her as soon as I handed her my paperwork. She had been teching cars for eight hours staight, and looked worn to a frazzle.
She checked the seat belts on the drivers side then made her way to the passenger's side. I stayed on the drivers side, and pointed out the cert, all my equipment, pulled back the padding to reveal the Snell rating on my helmet, and mentioned the temp license.
"Ok", she muttered then straightened her back slowly as if it pained her and set the clipboard on top of the Valiant. I watched as she signed me off for 8.50, then she handed back the yellow tech card, and put the white Drag Week sheet on her clipboard with a few others.

I pulled the car around out of line after my numbers were installed, and my registration/insurance info had been checked off by Tonya Turk and crew. I gathered up my banner, t-shirt, and goodie bag, then went and got Dad so he could sign up as co-driver, and get his arm band that would gain him access to each track, and the starting line area.
It was 5:30pm by the time I parked back in our pit area. Rachael was entering the tech area with Darren in the Belvedere, but Boone and Dale were still a good 30 cars back as the shadows began to grow long.
"This registration process is going to take more than twelve hours to complete!" I shook my head as I looked at Dad.
"Yeah, and they will still be working on the Duster when it drives under the canopy to get looked at!" he laughed.

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Now through all the years I can't remember if you guys have actually done this - but it seems like a real missed opportunity to not save a bunch of the stuff that could be done inside the car for the trip and have someone ride IN the car ON the trailer doing dash wiring, gauge install, heck maybe even ride in the trunk and do that light harness stuff.... smile


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Jeremy,
It hasn't happened on Drag Week, but Dale has spent time rebuilding a Glide in the trailer on the way to a SST Divisional race back in the day!

Joel,
I figured you were the "by the book" guy, and Jeff was the outlaw...

For us, Sunday was a 14 hour ordeal of trying to get our four cars through tech and registration. I have tons of pics that share the story of two hundred cars sitting in the parking lot for an eight hour car show. For the lucky few who actually show up on time, prepared, and happen to be in the first hundred through tech, there also happens to be a Sunday Test and Tune.

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Over the years, I've become quite jaded about the Sunday test and tune as it has become famous for the Drag Week ending engine and/or transmission failures that it has produced. Most memorable, but much less frequent are the wall slapping incidents that really put the screws to the unlucky participant's vacation plans!
2016's opening session was no different, with one very bad crash from a very unlikely source.

Jeff Pagano was bringing his 70 El-Camino back for it's third Drag Week. The big tire, ladder bar car has always ran Pro Street N/A, completing 2014 with a 12.54 average, and improved to a 12.03 average in 2015 with a best run of 11.73. He had stepped up his engine program for 2016, and was hoping to move into the tens. Still when you think of the cars most likely to get out of control on the big end, a high ten second, N/A, big tire car isn't the usual suspect.

While I was not even remotely focused on the test and tune cars, when you've spent as many days at the races as I have, you become accustomed to the sounds of sets going down the track. When that sound is interrupted by relative silence for a few minutes, the spidey sense goes off and you start looking around to see what has happened. Worst case is when you see emergency vehicles converging from both directions towards the finish line.

Reports circulated later in the evening that the diagonal link had failed or came loose as the car approached the finish line, causing him to lose control and contact both walls. Jeff was taken to a local hospital for observation, but was later released. As the owner of a ladder bar street car, I can attest that those parts take a ton of abuse, and I have been guilty of not checking mine over as often as I should, so this incident served as a grim reminder of what can happen.

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Apparently some people do actually work out bugs and discover gains during the Sunday test and tune. The top pic was Ray's first hit, and the only time I think the car ran with the hood on all week. As much as I love the look, I guess it just doesn't work, because his second pass (bottom pic) and the rest of the week, was hoodless with the aluminum scoop attached to the carb.

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David McKenna (OUTLAWD, Moparts) was making his first Drag Week, and was busy melting the tires on his 66 Plymouth on Sunday as well. With it's blacked out trim, this is a car that sneaks up on you, but the longer you take to check it out, the more you appreciate what a really clean, well assembled machine it certainly is.
We were way too over our skis to do that on Sunday, but we got the opportunity to pit near Dave and his Dad Monday, and enjoy some time to look his car over and bench race.

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Good write up,Billy, as usual, thanks for doing it

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A pair of Green small block Dusters were also making their Drag Week debut. Rick Trunkett's 72 featured a muted paint scheme with blacked out wheels, and almost had the low down dirty 12 second street car look down cold, until you walked past it and noticed the B3R decal that takes up the entire back glass, with the parachute hanging off the bumper. A peek under the six-pack hood revealed a massive single turbo.

Corey Pant's 74 Duster in contrast, possessed zero ability to sneak up on anyone. The in your face green paint is augmented with a bright silver 340 call out stripe that begs for attention at every angle. The J on his windshield meant he was in SSSBNA, and would be one of 13 guys trying to outrun Ray's Black Pearl.

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Originally Posted By MoparBilly
David McKenna (OUTLAWD, Moparts) was making his first Drag Week, and was busy melting the tires on his 66 Plymouth on Sunday as well. With it's blacked out trim, this is a car that sneaks up on you, but the longer you take to check it out, the more you appreciate what a really clean, well assembled machine it certainly is.
We were way too over our skis to do that on Sunday, but we got the opportunity to pit near Dave and his Dad Monday, and enjoy some time to look his car over and bench race.


Great Pics! Thanks! I had to break in the new drag radials...

Luckily I did line up for a couple passes on Sunday...on the drive down Saturday I was tweaking some of the WOT values in my VE table, but it was pouring rain during the drive so I never got a chance to lay into it. I forgot that I was fudging the transient fueling to try to get rid of the rich spike on the launch, so when I launched on the first pass, the thing nearly stalled twice because it had no "pump shot" at the hit...A couple clicks on the return road and the second pass was clean.


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I don't think I ever saw Davids car with the hood open. Sano!

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Yeah I was parked next to him at Norwalk, super clean setup!


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Thanks Joel, Clark. I was battling for last in my class, so it was more of a 1 hit and split approach, which really cut into my socializing time.

It's been together a while and could use a little freshening up, but that normally involves making it faster, and I am not to motivated rip it apart to put a cage in it at this point in time.


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Originally Posted By MoparBilly
Apparently some people do actually work out bugs and discover gains during the Sunday test and tune. The top pic was Ray's first hit, and the only time I think the car ran with the hood on all week. As much as I love the look, I guess it just doesn't work, because his second pass (bottom pic) and the rest of the week, was hoodless with the aluminum scoop attached to the carb.


it made little difference. there are 3 reasons I ran with no hood. My friend made the scoop for me at the last minute. I wanted to be as consistent as possible all week and last year I did the sealed hood so I went polar opposite

nice pictures. did you take them?

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I know, I know...
Why does it take Billy so long to get started on his story, nd to make regular updates.

Partially, because I spend a great deal of time surfing the internet and social media looking for and collecting Drag Week pictures.

I only took 150 shots this year, and they are the ones that are grainy and out of focus!

The Hot Rod Staff, as well as Dominick Domato, and Will McDugle share many of their shots, but also many of the participants and amateurs as well.

Most of these are from ksj's buddy Bob Brehm, who pretty much shoots everything that moves, car or female, on Drag Week!

If I use ones with a yellow date stamp on them, those are courtesy of James Pranis' buddy, Scott Sprague, who is almost as prolific behind the lens as Bob!

Top pic: Find the gremlin...
2nd: ksj repping for fallen DW member Jake Brantner, and the Black Hat Gang at the same time.

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Billy,

Where does Scott Sprague post his photos?

To say Bob is prolific is an understatement for sure.

Love the stories, keep it up!

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thanks for the pics and the little story on my car gonna hope to make it back this year or next , had some problems with my car and my girls t-type


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Hope you and Lisa go this year.I first tried to get Bob to go in 2010.Gave him all of Kyles 1320 DW videos.He still wasnt feeling it.He rode with me in 2012 and hes gone every year since.Not sure how many thousand pics he took last year. I know it was over 3k.I do know by Friday he took less than 350. LOL

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Rachael parked the Belvedere beside the Valiant, Darren stepped out of the passengers side.
"Did you and Sherri get your arm bands?"
"Yeah", he raised his arm, "saw Clark make a test hit beside a Hellcat, looked like a good race."
"A red Hellcat? It's entered by David Kirwan, if you can believe that".
He gave me a surprised look, "The guy who usually brings the Starsky and Hutch Torino?"
"Yeah! Supposedly his boss' car, maybe they were like you and Rachael, and Kirwan had an entry and they really wanted to try out the Challenger instead!"
"Well, the Torino was always low twelves, high elevens, so it wasn't going to make a dent in the SME field, maybe the Hellcat has a shot."
"Didn't Clark change engines?" Rachael asked, walking around with goodie bag in hand.
"Yeah, from a Eddie head 360 to a 4" stroked W-2 deal", I confirmed.
"I think he's still in the elevens though," Darren added.
"Not surprising, he had that 360 combo scienced out pretty good, it'll take a little bit to shake out a whole new deal!"

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I think I squared off with that particular Hellcat a few times over the week.

I had wanted tens right out of the gate with the 416, but between the car gaining 100lbs and me not paying attention to my fuel pressure data it didn't happen. It did the next time to the track after DW though. up


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The test and tune cars had went silent, and the sun had disappeared from view before the boys presented the Ruster Duster and the Gremlin under the lights of the pavilion for registration and tech. They managed a few halfhearted high fives among themselves when both cars cleared the gauntlet, but in all honesty, it was a joyless and suspenseless procession as all parties involved were simply too worn out to care at that point. The National Trail staff, the Hot Rod staff, the Drag Week staff, and certainly the 347 contestants and crews who would embark on this quest the following morning, were just ready to put what had turned into the longest day in Drag Week history, behind them.

Rachael and I had re-organized our junk for a third time. Our plan was to leave the 1-ton, two car trailer, and Valiant where they currently sat, and to take the Belvedere to the motel. Dale was going to take his dually, and Darren would take his truck, everything else would remain at the track.

Once again, I had prepaid for all the motels, but I had waited quite late in the process to do so. I was amazed to find a Days Inn with fairly inexpensive rooms within ten miles of the track still available, so we headed back towards Columbus' east side. Although the motel was just off the highway, it only took a block for a truck driver to realize this wasn't the best neighborhood in town. The confirmation was the fact that there wasn't another drag week car or rig in the entire parking lot.
We parked to the side, grabbed our stuff and headed towards the main lobby. A side entrance had a green canopy over it with the words "East Side Sports Bar" over it, and judging by the clientele taking a smoke break, and milling about outside the door, they were moving some drinks on a Sunday night!
"Way to go, Dave!" Darren chuckled under his breath.
His new girlfriend Sherri and Dale's son Billy were looking around with expressions of horror, but the rest of the crew took it all in stride.
The clerk gave us our room cards, and we made our way down the hall past the the rowdy bar crowd, and into our rooms. Things didn't feel right as soon as we entered, then Dale discovered towels thrown on the floor in the bathroom. Darren knocked on our door, and reported that their room door was ajar and the bed clothes were thrown in the floor, so we made our way back to the clerk with all our stuff, past the bar once again.
"I'm so sorry", the clerk explained with no surprise or emotion in his voice, "those rooms were marked as cleaned."
The two rooms this time were thankfully down an opposite hall from the bar, and were more than adequate for eight weary travelers. I showered second, and was unconscious before the next person turned on the water.

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lmao....we stayed at that Days Inn Saturday night! fight in the parking lot in the afternoon, etc. we checked out Sunday morning, and stayed at a dive in Hebron Sunday night.

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Still better than Americas Best Value Inn.From Saturday night til Monday A.M. the local Police visited 6 times.LOL.Thought I was going to have to post bail for Doug Garrisons sisters.

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ABV was the dive we stayed at Sunday night, I think it was better than Days Inn. At least, there were other DW guys there to help out and keep an eye on things

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Day 1, Monday 9/12 National Trail Raceway

We tend to sleep in a bit, and roll into the tracks a little later than everybody else, but that isn't an option on Monday. The driver's meeting is mandatory, and thirty minutes after that all the tow rigs and extra parts have to be in the impound area. I had fallen asleep hard, but not with a clear mind. I was worried about yet another sorting session with all our junk and I was concerned about the Belvedere in the motel parking lot.

My eyes were wide awake at 4:30 AM, and I knew rolling over and trying to fall back asleep would be a waste of time. I slept in a pair of shorts, so I just pulled on a t-shirt, and slipped into my shoes without socks to go check everything out. Our vehicles were unmolested, so I made my way back to the room, took a shower and dressed, took my bags to the car, grabbed some coffee in the lobby, and finally decided I had waited long enough to wake the others without a full scale mutiny!

We rolled into the track with about forty-five minutes to prepare before the driver's meeting. The pits were abuzz with activity, and I was amazed at how many cars were there that I hadn't even noticed the day before. Something to be said for getting some sleep, instead of walking around in a deprived stupor!

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Billy,

Where does Scott Sprague post his photos?

To say Bob is prolific is an understatement for sure.

Love the stories, keep it up!

Bill


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I wasn't ignoring your question, I was trying to find his pictures again! Gotta love the internet and social media, everything is so fluid. I can't remember if he posted a photobucket or flickr link on "Drag Weekers" or not, but I cant find them now!


I figured without the use of the Barnyard Viper, or the trailer she has pulled the last two years, it was going to be a fight to pare down the gear we were going to bring along, but the final sort went fairly smooth. We decided Darren could carry things that were non-essential to our cars, like the canopy, a cooler or two, the small barbecue, and food stuff. As long as he had no tools or parts, he should be within the rules.

Rachael was ordering Dale's Son around, explaining to him that if he was going on Drag Week, he had to pull his weight and earn his keep! We had rode her future husband Skippy pretty hard the year before so I think she decided a little rookie hazing was to be expected. We had all three tow rigs moved to impound before the start of the driver's meeting, and we had quite an impressive pile of junk left over that was going to find it's way into the cars by days end!

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The driver's meeting lasted about 30 minutes. Three big takeaways were noted from someone who's been through a few of them. First, David Freiburger introduced Evan Perkins as the new Hot Rod Magazine Editor. It was clear he was going to let David, Brian, and the Drag Week staff do their thing, and get out of the way, so the tension of last year was gone, and I liked this new guy right from the start!
Second, Keith Turk explained that the racers were responsible for picking the appropriate class for their cars, and that he would intervene only if there was a dispute. Another positive in my book, essentially Drag Week is 350 Street Cars trying to complete an arduous journey, and no one enjoys getting beat over the head with a rule book.
Third, Lonnie Grimm was very specific in how the lanes were going to work, who was going to be in them, and that He and Sean Fling would be in charge of them from start to finish! "It is my goal to provide everyone an equal opportunity to get multiple passes each day", was the phrase he ended with. Once again, another positive, in my way of thinking, so far so good!

The meeting was over shortly after 9AM, and since the first two lanes were already filled, I figured cars would be heading down the track before I made it back to the Valiant. National Trail Raceway, however, hadn't scheduled the Ambulance to be on site until 10AM, so while we waited, the two hundred plus class cars packed every square inch of available staging lane.

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The first official pass of Drag Week 2016 was Dan Saitz's Turbo SBF 88 Mustang; yeah, a fox body with a small block Ford! Dan is one of the best heads up small tire racers the NMRA has to offer, so there was never going to be a question about his ability to throw a number on the board, but could he keep the monster alive for five days and a thousand miles?
Saitz's Mustang had an E on the windshield which meant he was in Modified Power Adder, the same class the Gremlin and Valiant were in. You could feel a collective gasp from all in attendance when the orange Fox opened the ceremonies by tossing down a 7.782-175.57 blast.
Fifteen minutes later Rick Prospero pulled to the line in his green Twin turbo BBC powered 90 RX7, also with an E on the windshield. Rick had won Modified Power Adder in 2015 with an 8.22 average, but fell short of the seven second times he had expected. Dale and I were in our pits when Rick and the Mazda lit up the boards with an astounding 7.53-189.
"You know if we can just stay within a couple seconds of them..."
"Yeah", Dale chuckled, "just to put a little pressure on them? Make sure they know we're right on their heels?"
"Yeah, something like that", I agreed, slowly shaking my head.
"Freiburger commented that he expected more seven second cars this year than ever before, and we've already seen two in the first twenty cars", Boone added.
"What exactly are you guys working on now?" I asked, as I realized they were once again playing with the wiring of the Duster.
"Installing the nitrous system. When we got through tech last night, we had all the lights and street stuff, the car starts and runs, but the solenoids are just sitting next to the plate with their pig tails. We have to wire them, put in a relay, a button, and a toggle, mount the bottle and run the line.
"Why don't you make a motor pass first", I shrugged, "You don't have any miles on it at all, we just broke in the cam!"
"I entered the Power Adder class because I intend to spray it!" Boone glared at me as if the mere suggestion was blasphemy.

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Two of the first three mopars to record times on Drag Week were 66 Plymouth Belvederes owned guys by named David M., but that is where the similarities stop. Outlawd (Dave McKenna) ran an 11.66-114 in his 496 powered example to get his Drag Week underway. David Meyer approached the beams a little later in his Troy Trepanier built "Northern Bel" 526 inch twin turbo hemi powered version, a car that had already wowed on the national show circuit, and ran 199 in the standing mile. The 4900lb Plymouth eased out of the hole, then slowly built momentum, clocking 10.50-133.

Since it was obvious to me that Boone and Dale weren't planning to run until ten minutes of track time was left in the day, I decided to put the Valiant in the staging lanes. I was directed to the back of lanes 3/4. National Trail's lanes are narrow, but very long, and I realized there was no way all of us would run through before the supposed two hour cut-off. I decided to go watch from the starting line for a good view of the proceedings.

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Scott Hendrix opened the show for the A-bodies with a 10.87-127.3, and unfortunately that was it for the gorgeous 512 powered Duster. I have no idea what happened, I don't recall them loading the car during the remainder of the day, so I'm not sure if the problem occurred at the track, or during the first drive.

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Immediately following Scott down the track were the only two Plymouth A cars in Super Street Small Block Normally Aspirated, the gen 3 Hemi powered 67 Barracuda of Ray Meyers, and Cory Pant's LA powered 74 Duster. The Black Pearl worked the Duster over pretty good, 9.96-134 to 10.90-123 and both drivers were apparently happy with the outcome because those were the slips they turned in.

I picked the right time to walk up to the fence because Randy Heinselman's Plum Crazy AAR Cuda clone was up next. Vince Rasch, Mark Covey, and Randy have made a personal playground out of Super Street Big Block Normally Aspirated for the last two years, with Vince's Pontiac winning the class both times, while Mark and Randy swapped places for 2nd and third. For 2016 Randy decided the old RB 535 Victor headed wedge wasn't going to be enough, so he brought out a new all aluminum 528 Indy Hemi. Worried about dialing in the new combo, his wife Connie left her 69 Camaro at home and was riding with Randy. The Cuda looked phenominal, riding on new wheels and a tweaked stance, it had all the camera jockeys paying attention when he rolled into the water. The 9.87-137.7 right out of the box represented an improvement of six tenths, and eight mph over the wedge's best ever numbers, so you couldn't blame Connie for a little fist pump when the Plymouth lit up the board.

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We were two and a half hours into the class car session when Lonnie Grimm made the call for a hard cut-off. That didn't surprise me so much, as they had cleared out rows 1&2, and were about half way through lanes 3&4, so those of us left in the lanes just figured to wait where we were until they finished the session of Street Machine Eliminator. Instead, Lonnie demanded that we clear out of the lanes to allow the SME cars to fill them! I was so angry when I returned to the pits.
"This is a bad move! Now everyone is going to crowd up around the lanes in an attempt to jump in as soon as they open. I just sat up there for an hour, and when the all-run session opens, guys who already ran can jump back in the lanes ahead of me. This is ridiculous, Lonnie has lost his mind!"
I slammed the door then looked at Rachael.
"You better get the Belvedere up there, because who knows if he'll do the same thing to SME as well!"
Dale looked at me like I was crazy. "The lanes are only 5 wide here, he really didn't have the option of leaving you guys up there and still give the SME cars a chance to fill the lanes!"
"Aren't you the guy who complained in your story about the SME guys not getting a fair shake?" Boone gave me a wry smile and a shoulder shrug.
I felt like they were playing me, but I couldn't contain myself, "It was a dumb move! It'll be a free-for-all the rest of the day!"
Their laughter did nothing but fan the flames, so I sat in the passenger seat of the Belvedere until Rachael drove it to the lanes.

Rachael was the first Mopar in SME to run, and she was lined up next to a Cobra, which I was looking forward to her outrunning. Unfortunately, something was amiss with the nitrous, and she only managed a 13.19. Not a good start for our first day, one turned away in the lanes, and another a second and a half slow!

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A couple of other Drag Week regulars in no-bar mopars followed right behind Rachael, as Rodney Munchiando went 11.83-112.9 in his 68 Dart GTS, and Ross Dudley followed in the next pair with a 12.04-111 in his yellow 68 Road Runner. The number led me to believe that Ross had chosen not to spray the 440, since he knew 11.50's weren't going to get anyone into the quick 32 anyway.

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Rachael pulled into the pit, and we swapped bottles just to be on the safe side, and checked everything out. I sent her back to the lanes as quickly as possible because as I had predicted all the class cars were creeping towards the mouth of the staging lanes, and parking as close as they could get. Rachael struggled to move through them as they clogged the pit roads and even blocked people in to get as close as possible even though the all run session hadn't been opened yet.

Meanwhile the mopar front scratcher triumvirate of James Reeves, Jason Trotter, and Patrick Culkin had so much fun on DW2015, that they invited three more of their crazy friends to join them. So in addition to the GLH, the Daytona, and the Shadow, Warren Hill brought his 87 Shelby CSX, Marybeth Kicsenski (thankfully known as Talongirl on the web, much easier to say) in her blue 95 Talon, and Teri Skrab in a 92 Spirit RT! All six made successful day 1 passes, but I had my doubts about testing fate with that many spooled up little twenty year old transaxled Mopars!

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Marybeth struggled launching her Talon, because of the Drag Week requirement for sticky tires. Jason Trotter, who now wheels the Daytona actually raced the Talon in Drag Week 2013 to mid twelves at 110-112. Now the Mitsu has the power to run 124 mph!

Sharing the track with Marybeth was Greg Huizenga's 83 Jeep Cherokee which I posted an engine shot of earlier in an attempt to see how many of you were paying attention! There was so much going on beneath the Jeep's lowered body; a C-10 chassis, a turbocharged Gen 3 Hemi, and I believe a 4L80e trans. He clocked an 11.54-119!

Warren Hall's 87 CSX debuted on Drag Week with a 13.38-105 beside Tom Taylor's blue 79 sbc powered Nova. Tom's Nova has ten successful Drag Week journeys to it's credit, progressing from 12 flats in 2006, to 10.28-131 in 2015. Tom's first run of DW2016 looked to be another low ten second shot, but the small block let the smoke out at 800 ft. and the X-body coasted to a 10.55-123. Watching that car out of the event so early was a grim reminder of just how often things can go wrong and dash any hopes of finishing.

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The Jeep has a manual trans. Had a chance to talk with them the last morning, as they were in the same hotel.


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CP-Carillo's Ed Urcis is usually found at NHRA Division 7 races on the west coast behind the wheel of a D/ED in Comp Eliminator, but on Monday afternoon he was running his 2015 Corvette in SME, and making a pass beside Rachael in the Belvedere. She provided little competition for the ten second C-7, but we would take any eleven second run and move on!

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Originally Posted By JERICOGTX
The Jeep has a manual trans. Had a chance to talk with them the last morning, as they were in the same hotel.


You are correct, Jeff
I try to go off memory, instead of research and it always gets me in trouble! 6.1 Hemi backed by a TR6060.

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Right before Rachael made her pass, the lanes were opened up for the final all-run session. The lurkers poured into the breach like Wal-Mart shoppers on Black Friday, considering the large numbers of Mustangs in competition it was a wonder Sean Fink and other pedestrians weren't harmed in the sudden rush. I glumly walked back to our pits, watched the Gremlin and the Ruster Duster drive by and realized I would be the last of us to make a run despite being the first one in the lanes earlier.

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Originally Posted By MoparBilly
...considering the large numbers of Mustangs in competition it was a wonder Sean Fink and other pedestrians weren't harmed in the sudden rush.


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I drove the Valiant up to the lanes, and was once again directed to 3/4. Dale and Boone were in 1/2 which would run out first. The track was quiet, as they were working on an 04 Silverado with a ladder rack at the last turn-off.
"We're being held up for a mule truck?" I looked at Dale.
"Mule truck went 12.77 at 109, and the engine went away at about the thousand foot mark!" Dale laughed and shook his head.
"Another one of those 100,000 mile 5.3 ls engines with an Ebay turbo, I'm guessing", Boone added.
Everyone around was attempting to be calm, but looks of desperation and anxiety were not in short supply. At this point in the evening it was pretty clear, the cars currently in the lanes had one shot at a decent number!

Kirwan in the red Challenger HellCat, and Randy Juliani in his 66 Coronet were the last two Mopars to round out the SME portion. The Hell cat would leave National Trail with an 11.32-121 opening day slip, and mrrandyj's Connecticut based Dodge would lay down an 11.74-113.7.

They rolled out the tractors for a little starting line maintenance while the rest of us chewed our bottom lips and wondered if we would ever get a shot at the track.

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As I mentioned earlier with Tom Taylor, previous success at Drag Week doesn't mean you won't draw the short straw on your next attempt, Drag Week is a fickle and cruel mistress.
Coming into 2016 Matt Blasco and his 72 Dart were the 19th fastest car in Drag Week history with their 7.70-185 blast in 2015's Pro Street Power Adder Class, with one bad day preventing him from an all 7 second finish. Matt had problems on his first hit in 2016, only logging an 8.79-140 earlier, and I was hopefully expecting him to return to the lanes any time now.

Meanwhile, twenty five minutes into the final session Ev Bernardo pulled to the line in his 90 Mustang. Ev was 12th on the fastest car list with a 7.45-193 way back in 2010 with an Unlimited 68 Camaro.

Just as Ev began his burn out, Brian Lohnes announced that Elana Scherr had reported that the Blasco Dart was out with terminal transmission failure.
I looked at Boone, "dang it, that was over quick!"
"All the upgrades to improve on last year...and done in one shot", he shook his head.

On Ev's first pass, Brian explained that the Mustang belonged to one of his customers, and the motor was a mix of parts sourced from previous projects. It launched and got up on the turbo so quick he had to pedal once, then it really started to make steam, and the small tire car was moving hard to the 1/8th. The nose dipped noticeably at nine hundred feet, and a smoke cloud formed under the car. The slight wiggle of the rear bumper let every experienced fence jockey know that Ev was driving through his own oil. He fought it away from the left wall twice, but it finally got into the concrete once just after the stripe, and again three hundred feet further down, but Bernardo never once quit fighting for control, and wrestled the fox body all the way around the final turn-out.
"He did everything he could!" Dale critiqued
"Wow...that went from good to bad to worse in a heartbeat", I added. The 9.18-118 was of little consequence at that point.
We headed back to our cars in the lanes, looking at a protracted clean up, and a narrowing time window to get a good pass in.

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Four sets of cars after the clean up, Dale idled the Gremlin into the water box of the left lane. The 572 sounded much cleaner than last year's 440, namely because he hadn't pulled out as much timing, the plan was to hit this engine with considerably less N20.
As he was suiting up I had attempted to talk him into moving the hit further out, or running NA, but he wouldn't hear any of it.
"Look, the last two years, my opening time slip on Monday has been a 9.59. I have no intention of turning in a 9.59 to start this year!"

He left with the front wheels slightly up, but as soon as the N20 hit, it blew the tires off, and slammed the nose back down. He pedaled it once then stood back in it, it seemed to level off at 1000', but the boards flashed a 9.83-152.54.
I looked at Rachael, "He'll drive it right back up to the lanes, I guarantee it! That's eight second mph., he just needs to figure out the launch!"

Boone was up two sets later in the same lane, and he did a burn out across the starting line.
"What was that all about?" I asked Rachael.
"I don't think they have the line lock working yet", she explained.
"They've done nothing but wire on it for two days straight!"
Boone grabbed the nitrous about 60 feet out, and the 512 started shooting ducks, but he held the button to it all the way to the 1000' mark, and ran 10.68-126.7.
"Well...it wasn't nines, but it's a start", I shrugged at Rachael as we headed back to the Valiant.


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Five sets after Boone ran Jamie Hochbaum pulled his Modified Power Adder silver 2010 Challenger into the left lane water box for his second attempt at Drag Week. Last year he failed to make it past day two with a best of 12.05-152, if you are wondering why I haven't mentioned it before...well, it has a turbo LS under the hood.
The right lane was occupied by Dave Schroeder and his Canada based, nitrous huffing, big inch 66 Corvette tuned by Monte Smith. If you remember my story from last year, Monte and the Schroeder brothers used Friday afternoon and Saturday to make huge strides with the car. They were hoping to capitalize on those gains at 2016 Drag Week.

While the Challenger sat on the line and spooled, the Vette left good, with a respectable 1.14 60', and was running 165 at the 1/8. Jamie finally let the Challenger go as the Vette went past the thousand foot mark. The board lit up with 6.85-199.5 but the chute never blossomed. Jamie had the Challenger humming at the 1/8 mile mark as the back of the Vette started bouncing on the big slicks, and Dave was obviously in serious trouble. The rear of the Vette hopped towards the centerline, shoving the front end towards the left wall and forcing the car to make contact at a hard angle, catapulting him into the right lane, where the car came to rest. Jamie cleared the traps with a fine 8.31-167, dropped the laundry, then had to navigate around the wounded car sitting cross ways in his lane. Luckily the time differences between the beginning of each run gave Jamie plenty of time to make the needed adjustments and navigate the shut down area.

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Little more info on the Ev incident.Met Ev in 07 and traveled with him Michael Crow,and Larson, Houston Alford and James hughes.Last day Ev was winning his class and on his first pass on Friday he grenaded the tranny,driveshaft and 3rd member at 11:10 a.m.. lanes closed at Noon.He was leading his class and all the second place guy had to do was run a 12 second easy pass.He had a spare transmission but nothing else.He got towed back and we were all waiting there with tools,jackstands to see what we could do.Mike asked Ev what the driveshaft length was.Come to find out the one in Mikes 73 Cuda would fit.Under Mikes car I went.The rest of them started the tranny swap.As it came time to put in the 3rd member we found out it was going to need rebuilt so that was next.11:50 a.m. the swap was almost complete so I went to make my pass for the day.As I got to teh lanes Mr Second Place was just waiting to make his pass.He asked me if Ev was going to make it.Glad I had my helmet on as I told him"Doesnt look good."Made my pass and saw Ev heading to the lanes.I hauled butt back to the staging lanes and pulled up to Mr second place.As I did that Ev also pulled along side.The look on the guys face was priceless.Ev ran a high nine to secure the class win.
As for this year the car he had used to belong to a customer.It was a father and son project that unfortunately father and son had a falling out.The father sold it to Ev and wanted to see the car compete on DW.Evs first pass he had trans Brake issues.The second pass it was actually a broken water pump housing that caused him to get loose and into the wall. he did a heckuva a great job keeping it in his lane.Really sucked as He would have given Clark a run for his money.

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The boys from Canada picked up the Vette this past Saturday. It was hurt pretty bad.

Flashing back to last year, when Billy mentioned we were struggling with the car.......well that's an understatement. This was likely an old Super Gas car or something. While it worked great with the 648, the 867 has been a struggle. The car is just unhappy. I was in Canada testing with them last summer and finally told them "it just won't work". So I hauled the car down here and dropped it at Chris Terry Race Cars for some much needed updates. Full double frame rail from 4-link to motor plate down tube bars and plenty more bracing. The first pass at Drag Week was the FIRST pass on the new chassis. I had it set really soft to just go A-B and it went 6.85, which was a best for the car by a lot. On the crash, Dave threw the chutes, but they had put new cables on and left too much wire hanging out of the sheath and it never turned them loose. Car has carbon brakes and he was on them hard. Once they got hot and grabbed one time.......it was over.

Looking at it now, it's a good thing we added the double frame rails to the car, or it would have been junk after the crash. Back on the jig at Chris Terry's, the car was perfect from firewall back. It just needed a new front clip. The body was the biggest concern, as that is a real Corvette, plus wheel wells and rear of body were modded pretty heavy. Richard Earle at Suncoast made us a rear tail for the car, so we just hacked the whole rear off to nearly the wheelwells and grafted a new tail on. That was much easier than trying to repair the crashed up stuff. Also whoever built the car originally had done some not so nice things in the rear and we fixed all that. We also installed new carbon tubs and replaced all the rear tin with carbon. New heavier 4 link bars, new heim ends and Santhuff struts this time.

They still have plenty of work to do, as they are building the front cradle to mount radiator and mounting the nose themselves. So as usual, will likely show at Drag Week AGAIN having no chance to sort the car first

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Thanks guys, the input is much appreciated, as I can only scratch the surface of most of the stories that arise as Drag week unfolds.

They were fifteen minutes into the clean-up after Schroeder's accident when it was announced we were fifteen minutes from closing the back of the lanes. Since it would take longer than that before cars were sent down the track again, it was obvious that all of us remaining would only get one shot at the 1320. I kept peering towards the mouth of the lanes, waiting to see the Gremlin roll back in, but it never did.
Right before they gave the signal to resume sending cars down. Lohnes made one of his public service announcements at the request of a racer seeking parts help. "Dale Gebhart in the white Gremlin is looking for an intermediate shaft for a 440 mopar."
"That's the shaft that meshes with the cam, then drives the oil pump and the distributor", Freiburger explained.

I saw Darren walking from the back of the tower, so I stepped over to have a quick word.
"What happened", I asked him as he was walking up to the fence.
"Snapped the end off that drives the oil pump, probably should have changed the oil before he ran!"

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The sound of cars firing up caught me off guard, so I spun from the fence and ran over to the Valiant. I tugged my jacket on and zipped it up, then folded myself into the car. The pair ahead of me disappeared under the tower, and I caught Lonnie Grimm's attention as I started pulling up.
"Lonnie! Can I pull over there out of line until I get ready? I don't want to hold anyone up!"
He gave me a thumbs up, and motioned me to the side.
This pass was too important for me to rush up there, and not be fully strapped in and mentally ready.

As an interesting side note to little Billy's Drag Week that he was sharing with his Dad, three uncles and cousin...he was also sharing it with his Step Dad. James Rawlins was well known to all of us long before he started dating Dale's x-wife, as gear head drag racers in a small town are a pretty tight knit group. They get along just fine, and both of them have stayed in their lanes when it came to raising the young man, so there would be zero tension on that front. James was riding shotgun with his boss, who brought a screaming yellow 2013 Zl-1 Nickey Camaro, which was pro-charged and nitroused.

As luck would have it, when I gave Lonnie the thumbs up to get back in line, I was paired with Jay and the Yellow Camaro. Just what I needed, more pressure. All those Chevy boys I grew up with in Oklahoma and street raced in my formative years, would all hear about this one, guaranteed!

Jay gave me a strange look as we approached the water and the first thing that went through my mind was, "I wonder if he thinks I pulled out of line just to get paired with him?"

I did my burn out in second gear, went to nuetral, cleared the engine, then purged the nitrous in the motor. I didn't like the way it hit, so I purged it again, then dropped it in low and staged. I'd decided I wasn't going to attempt using the trans-brake, so I could concentrate on getting on the nitrous at the correct time, with my hand on the shifter.
I left soft, the car left soft, but when I hit the nitrous, it started tiptoeing the front tires across the tarmac. Once I was in second the engine started popping in the exhaust. In all my years of running spray, and hearing other cars sound that way, this is the first time it had ever happened to me, but it was pulling hard so I stuck with it until just after a thousand foot. As soon as I lifted off the juice the engine cleaned right up and sounded fine to the stripe.
I hadn't seen the Camaro all the way down, but he was beside me pretty quick in the shutdown area, so I figured the victory wasn't a huge one.

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I have to say, I felt for Dave Schroeder when I started hauling the Valiant down to make the turn off. I've raced at 29 different tracks, and I'd list the National Trail shutdown area in the bottom two or three. My perception was that it was rough, short, and downhill, to be fair though that was the fastest speed I'd ever slowed from in the Valiant, and it doesn't have the best brakes! I was a little disappointed in the time slip, but it was a nine, and we would try to improve from there. I've got to admit though, when Dale was stuck with that 9.83, I was hoping to leave National Trail with the quickest run in the Family.

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I parked in our pits and went over to check on the Gremlin, Dale grabbed my time slip as soon as I walked up.
"You didn't get me did you!" He laughed and handed it back, "but you did outrun Jay, that's a plus".
"What's the plan here, and when did it break?"
"I felt the engine sort of free up at about a hundred feet before the finish line, so I looked down and saw the pressure dropping. I just clicked it in neutral, and shut it off at that point. This is ridiculous with 4.10's and a 31 tire, I was at 7500 just past the thousand foot!"
"Did you find any parts?"
"Yeah...called Jegs, they have two, so I sent Darren after them, then we've been calling him about every ten minutes and adding things to the list!"
"Why didn't you send Rachael?"
"No time. Darren can run 90 all the way over there if he wants to, and she needs to pack, plus air up the tires, and who knows what else".
"Well...we should have her meet him when he gets back on this side of town...she can bring the parts back, and Darren and Shari can track us down some real food", I decided.
Dale looked around at the thirty or forty stragglers still in the pits and shrugged, "yeah, I suppose, you never know who is watching or taking notes!"

The call to turn in time slips as soon as possible came over the loud speaker once again, so Dale, Boone and I headed that direction. As we walked towards the entrance to the tower, Lonnie Grimm was standing just outside the door. I swear he looked right at me, then keyed the mic to his handheld radio.
"Keith Turk to the tower please, we need to check the tech sheets to see if a racer exceeded his ET limit!"
My heart was immediately in my throat, and my guilty conscience was working overtime in concert with my healthy imagination. I was still walking into the tower control room with my brothers, but my mind was completely disengaged from my body.

The last time Lonnie saw the Valiant run last year, I had admitted it wasn't legal to run under 10.00.
He saw me get prepared to run, and I had no gloves or a neck collar. We only have one pair between the three of us, and they were still in the Gremlin.
Was he talking about me? Could my paperwork withstand a thorough investigation? Was I about to be DQ'ed, or forced to take a 20ET/50mph and have my run disallowed?


I was sweating, I felt physically ill, my mouth was dry.
"Calm down man", Boone whispered, "You look like you're about ready to faint!"
Keith and another Drag Week staffer entered the room and went over to the corner to look through two boxes, one containing the white Hot Rod entrance sheets, the other had the yellow NHRA tech cards. They quickly pulled one of each and began comparing them. I was only two people away from turning in my slip, so I was away from the group, but Dale was back towards the door, and I could see him crane his neck to try and peer at the papers they were looking at.
"This is you on the left?" I heard a voice in front of me and snapped around to see who was talking. It was Tonya Turk with my time slip in her hand, although I had no recollection of handing it to her.
"Yeah...yeah, that's it...car 18." I stammered, trying to focus.
"9.91...That's pretty good for you isn't it?" She asked as she wrote out my official Drag Week card.
Dear lord...everyone was in on it, I had just walked into a full blown ambush!
"Yeah, best ever." I agreed.
"Congratulations", Tara Fling smiled at me as Tonya handed me the slip.
I just smiled and backed up so Boone could turn in his. My throat had just quit working and I could find no words. I turned to exit, and it felt like every eye in the room was on me.
Dale grabbed my shoulder as I passed, and put his lips to my ear, "I swear those are your sheets they are going over..."
I bolted from the room, and gasped in fresh air like a man emerging from a deep dive. I waited for the brothers to join me at the base of the tower and we headed back toward our cars. We walked in silence for about a hundred yards before I spun towards them and tossed my hands up.
"If they were looking at my stuff, why didn't they detain me?"
"They probably want to be sure before they say anything, they will just call you into the tower tomorrow when we get to Norwalk", Boone surmised.
We walked a little further as I was lost in a sea of points and counterpoints going off in my head.
"Not buying it", I shook my head. "That's not Keith's MO, you guys know that, he's never backed away from confrontation, if he had something he'd have walked out in that room and said, 'Hey Sugarbritches, get over here and explain this to us!, you know he would!"
Boone and Dale were laughing at me now, full on, uncontrolled laughter.
"Dude, get a grip, you are way too worried about this!"
I crossed my arms over my chest and walked the rest of the way back without acknowledging their existence.

Once back at our pits, Rachael showed me a facebook post from Duane on her phone. It was a photo of his computer screen during the live feed of the Valiant and the Camaro on the line. The caption read, "Great pass Billy and James!"
"Yeah, it would have said, 'the Mopar got sawed off by a showroom stock Camaro' if I had lost!"
Duane was Dale's classmate since first grade, and a competing Chevy gear head since they started playing with cars at thirteen.

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For the first time, I actually paid attention to the driving route supplied to us by the Drag Week staff. "Two hundred and thirty-five miles, looks like quite a drive. Rachael punch in National Trail to Summit Motorsports Park and see how far it is straight through."
"They are ninety-four miles apart!" She laughed as she looked up from her phone.
"People are already posting on the Drag Weekers facebook site that there is one road that is completely blocked, and the detour adds even more miles. There are also pictures of guys following horse drawn buggies down a narrow two lane."
"Wow, this could get very interesting", I shook my head.

We noticed Monte was helping the Schroeder brothers get everything loaded up in their huge trailer, so we walked over for a visit. Usually Drag Week is so hectic that there is barely a moment to wave and say hi, so it was nice to take the time for a proper bench racing session.

As the afternoon goes by, these hours become like musical chairs in reverse. The guys who fire their machines up and drive out of the facility are the lucky ones. The ones still left on the grounds look at each other and wonder, "Are they going to make it out of here or are they going to make the walk of shame to the impound to get their truck and trailer?"

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By the time Rachael came back with the parts to put the Gremlin back together, I had the Valiant packed up and ready to hit the road.
By the time Darren and Shari showed up with chicken and pizza, the Belvedere was packed up and ready to hit the road.
Dale fired the Gremlin a few minutes later, whacked the throttle a few times, studied the gauges for a minute then shut it off.
He shrugged when he walked around to put the hood in place, "Oil pressure is about twenty pounds down from where it was before that pass."
"But you changed out the break-in oil, with all that zinc additive, and who knows what other crap you added." I looked hard at him, trying to gauge his concern.
"True, and it didn't have any metal in it...it'll probably be alright."
"So...now you're at seventy pounds?"
"Yeah!" He laughed.
"One of these days I'll convince you to quit running gear lube in your engines!" I teased him, with a shove.
The dusk was truly upon us, but I felt we would be rolling towards Norwalk very shortly, then, to my surprise, Dale and Boone started working on the Duster's wiring once again.
"Good grief", I threw my hands up in disgust, "what is it now?"
"I really don't feel comfortable with him running down the road without an oil pressure or water temperature gauge", Dale explained, "and we need to wire a toggle for the fans."

I decided to walk around and check on everyone else still trying to leave before I ruffled some feathers.

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The extended cab Silverado with the ladder rack, was still in the pits, and parked beside him was the 98 Firebird that he was racing when the engine let go. I noticed earlier that the Pontiac had stopped at the end of the track when the truck was having trouble, but I didn't know if they were acquainted before Drag Week or not. Fast friendships and alliances form during the week based on like interests and sometimes necessity. There were four guys working on the truck, and two women sitting in lawn chairs. I was shocked when I got closer to realize the engine was stripped down and they were changing out a couple of pistons and rods!

Next, I checked out a SBC powered Fox which had made the last pass of the day. It had spent most of the day with the front on jack stands while they worked underneath it. It was in that position again, but the lone person working under it was sound asleep.

Joe Bouska's 7 sec nitroused 638 powered 67 Camaro was pushed into the trailer. He had a nitrous backfire on his first pass right at the hit, then had ran a mid nine second motor only run to stay in, but had decided to call it quits...word was they only had one good run on the combo before showing up Sunday.

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Dad, Darren and I were standing around talking about the days racing for lack of better things to do, waiting for Boone, Dale, and little Billy to finish up with the Duster.
Dad was explaining how impressed he was with the Hellcat and I interrupted him.
"Why did you say tens? I watched that red Challenger make several passes and they were all in the 11.30 range!"
"Not the Challenger, the Hellcat Charger, it went 10.46", Dad explained, "it was that granite color, very understated".
"When Jim Sam was doing my alignment on the Valiant he explained that his new Hellcat Challenger was running 10.39 with a pulley swap and a few other small mods, so I guess I knew it was possible, but I never even noticed that a Hellcat Charger was on the grounds."
"They can hide in plain sight!" Dad explained, "Reminds me of the 66 Hemi Satellites...now everyone could see a 67 GTX coming from a mile away, but the Satellite could sneak up on them!"
Then he went into the re-telling of the entire story about his brand new 66 383 4 speed Satellite, and how he should have had a Hemi, but he went to a family dealership and asked for the largest engine available but they weren't up on the performance offerings. Darren and I rolled our eyes at each other, knowing we had no chance to get a word in for the next fifteen minutes.

It was dark, and the guys with the Mustang were loading up all their stuff in an enclosed trailer and throwing in the towel. A few minutes later they walked over to us and explained that they had paid for the Hot Rod VIP package which included a motel room at all the host motels. The package was not refundable, so they asked if anyone in our group would like to use it.
I figured trying to use something like that would be a hassle when you aren't the person that paid for it, and besides, I had rooms already, two per night, so I declined.
Darren's girlfriend Shari, however, looked like a drowning woman who had just been thrown a life preserver! She had spent just one night in a room that I had picked out, sharing it with my snoring Dad, and that was enough for her to realize that this was a change to score a major upgrade for her vacation with Darren.
Andrew was extremely accommodating, giving them information on each motel along the way, then also providing his cell phone number with the instruction to call him immediately if any of the motels gave them any trouble.

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They seemed to be wrapping up the work on the Duster, and I started to actually think we wouldn't be the last ones out of the gate. Boone pulled out 5 feet of steel braided hose that I had seen him affix a fitting to earlier in the evening.

"What's that for?" I asked as he headed towards the engine.
"Going to drain the race fuel so I can put the pump fuel back in", he explained.
"Why not unhook the line at the pump?"
"I don't want to spill fuel in the trunk, we're just going to pull it off the return".

I was standing in the front of the car, while little Billy was inside to turn on the pump. Dale was holding a five gallon jug on the ground next to the passenger's front tire with a flashlight shining in it as Boone held the hose from the return side of the regulator in the jug.
"Ok Billy, hit it", Dale instructed.
As soon as the pump engaged, I heard a weird sound that reminded me of a cow pissing on a piece of tin. I looked immediately to see if gas was pouring onto the intake or the firewall, but couldn't spot any obvious leaks.
"Hey, something doesn't sound right", I stammered trying to get their attention.
Both Boone and Dale were staring into the jug.
"It doesn't seem to be flowing very much", I heard Boone mumble to Dale and realized they hadn't heard me or the sound.
"Billy! Shut it off!" I yelled, and waved my hands at the windshield.
Boone and Dale looked up as the pump clicked off, and asked what the problem was.
"You just filled the engine full of gas, that's the problem", I exclaimed.
"The sound I heard was fuel shooting out of the vent tubes and hitting the lid on the breather!"
"How could that happen?" Boone asked looking shell shocked, "It's a return style regulator, it should work whether it's going to the tank or a jug!"
Dale had the breather off and confirmed my diagnosis.
"What now?" little Billy asked.
"Now you pull every single plug out of the engine, disconnect the ignition and roll it over to get all the gas out!" I explained while chewing the side of my tongue off to remain civil, another freaking hour wasted because Boone is so tight he's trying to save fifteen dollars worth of race fuel instead of just dumping the pump fuel on top of it and heading down the road, which is what I do on both of my cars.

I walked a ways into the darkness trying to calm down, we've been through this routine before, when you get this far behind before drive #1 it is difficult to recover. Every minute we spent at this track was a minute less sleep we were going to get before racing tomorrow. I heard the Silverado ladder truck fire up, and everyone in that group was hollering and sharing high fives.
"Good grief, they can rebuild an entire ls engine in the length of time it takes us to wire up gauges in a Duster", I moaned as Dad walked up behind me.
"T Toad Hurley seemed pretty happy when he left here with his hood!" Dad expertly changed the subject.

When I showed off my new fiberglass hood for the '62 on Moparts, Aaron had pm'ed me about the possibility of getting my fiberglass guy to pop him one as well. I had explained that wouldn't be a problem, but asked how we were going to get it from Arizona to Michigan. He agreed to meet me in Columbus for DW day one, and as George Peppard used to say on the A-Team, "I love it when a plan comes together".

A truck drove up to the Silverado camp and a guy got out and started talking with them. I couldn't hear the words, but I noticed the truck had a National Trail logo on the door.
"That's the guy who's in charge of closing this place up", I explained to Dad, "We need to get this buttoned up and get moving!"

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Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2016: The Last Hurrah? [Re: MoparBilly] #2259185
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"It's not as late as we left on the trip from Tulsa to Topeka", Dad shrugged.
"True, but that was in your backyard, and you guys knew every inch of that drive, this time we'll be traversing Ohio back roads we've never seen before!"
"We won't be babysitting the Dakota", Dad added, trying to be as optimistic as he could.
"I'm not so sure the Duster is going to be any better!"
"Well...at least it will make for one heck of a story", he laughed and slapped me on the back.
"Yeah, but I'm not the orator you are...not like I'm going to have everyone standing around in a circle hanging on every word."
"You do alright, don't cut yourself short! Besides that you're a great keyboard jockey!" He laughed at his own joke before I could respond.
"Thanks...I think."

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Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2016: The Last Hurrah? [Re: MoparBilly] #2259241
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I drain the tank sometimes. I take the supply line off the bottom of my Magna fuel return regulator and the Prostar 500 pump will fill a jug in NO time!
What did they do????

Good thing you were there or they would be rebuilding the ruster duster's engine in the pits.
Which would be.... THE PITS!!

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Don,
It's a Moroso fuel log regulator, and it remains a mystery why that method didn't work.

We were ten miles into our journey when we found a Speedway station for our first fill-up, and it was already obvious that this was going to be a different trip than previous drag weeks. Darren and Shari were long gone, they chose to drive straight to their new accommodations in Norwalk rather than follow us on a wild goose chase. This would be my second Drag Week solo in the Valiant, because Dad decided to ride with Rachael. This came as a bit of a surprise to my brothers and I because he rode two legs of DW14 with her and swore he wouldn't do it again. He rode the final leg of DW11 with me in the Valiant and I thought we had a great trip, but I think he chose the comfort of the big B body with full exhaust and reclining seats over hanging out with his first born in a ladder bar early A. For the past three years, Dale has had James and his TomTom device on board to keep him and the Gremlin moving in the right direction, and fueled up with his very limited radius. This year he would have neither, and that made him a liability in just about any position in the caravan. Boone usually has Dad with him in the Barnyard Viper which was always super reliable and they had the trailer with them, so they made the perfect caboose to trail along and pick up the stragglers. This year with Boone and a rookie 13 year old navigator in a freshly built Duster, they were the ones who needed looking after, a role Boone was not accustomed to at all.

We pulled out of the Speedway with Rachael in the lead, followed closely by the Valiant and I. Boone was next with Dale as the caboose. When Rachael is the lead dog, she drives with all her attention on the road ahead, those behind can keep up or not, but she isn't going to adjust her speed based on anything that may occur behind her. Fifteen miles down the road , we had a half mile gap between Rachael and I back to Boone and Dale's headlights, but I decided not to worry about it, Boone would call if anything came up. We ran OH-16 for forty miles, a nice little shoulderless divided four lane that meanders alongside the Muskingum River. It probably was a very scenic drive, but the moonlight did little to allow more than a perfunctory glance to the roadside. OH-16 merged with US-36, and we followed the Tuscarawas River for eight miles. I was studying the Belvedere's lights in the darkness, and was convinced that they were dimming again. I certainly wasn't going to yell at her, as I had a year to fix that alternator plug and hadn't touched it, but I needed to stop her and get it plugged back in before she ran out of juice. We had to make a full stop to turn left on OH-93, and I used that moment to accelerate past Rachael and then pull onto the wide gravel shoulder opposite the driveway to the Agland Co-op.

She pulled the Belvedere up behind me, as I crawled out of the now silent Valiant. Instead of going to her window to talk with her, I went straight for the hood latch, as soon as I popped it, she killed the engine. I raised the hood with my right hand and reached down to plug in the alternator with my left. I had it in place when I heard the trunk pop open, and she walked up with the jack handle that we use as a prop rod.
"You need this to hold the hood open", she explained.
"I was just plugging the alternator back in", I took the handle from her and put it in place, "let's see if you have enough juice to re-start it.
The 440 cranked a half a turn before the solenoid started clicking. Dad stepped from the passenger's side and asked if I had the cables.
"No, but I have the battery charger...didn't we load the small generator up in the trunk of your car?"
Rachael had a look on her face that told me she was expecting me to be upset, and I was determined to keep it as upbeat as I could this early into the trip.
"Yeah, it's back there, I'll grab it!" Rachael exclaimed, the smile returning to her face.
"I'll get it", Dad corrected her, and moved towards the still open trunk lid, "you're in no condition to be lifting that heavy thing!"
"I'm pregnant, not helpless", she laughed at him, but allowed him to bring it up to the front of the car.
The little generator sounded like it was going to spill it's guts with the charger on forty amps, so we backed it off to twenty and the three of us grabbed some drinks from the cooler and walked to the back of the car.
"No biggie", I told them, "this will give Boone and Dale a chance to catch up with us".
The words had barely left my lips when my phone rang, I reached in my pocket and fished it out, it was Dale.

"I called Darren but he's already at the motel, and I think the generator is in his truck", he explained.
"He's already at the motel? We're barely sixty miles in!"
"Yeah, I know", he laughed, "but we need cables or something, that 50 amp single wire alternator isn't keeping up with the Duster, so when we pulled over to dump more fuel in the Gremlin, it wouldn't fire back up."
"Well, I don't know where the cables are, but Rachael has the generator in the Belvedere, and I have the smart charger in the Valiant".
"Great! Can one of you bring them back to us?"
"No, no we can't", I laughed, "because we are using them at this very moment!"
"The alternator plug again? You had one thing to fix all year..."
"Yeah, right", I cut him off, "Tell Rachael where you are, and I'll send her and Dad back as soon as I get them rolling".
I handed my phone to her and explained what was going on to Dad. A few minutes later the Belvedere fired to life and Rachael determined they had to back track about ten miles to help the guys. I decided to go on solo, and I could call them if anything came up.

I was only up the road about twenty miles when I entered the small town of Baltic Ohio, population 795, with one stop sign in the middle of town and a large mill sitting precariously close to the side of the road. I pulled up next to a couple of the large hoppers, and shut off the engine. The gentle, rhythmic hammering of the mill was comforting. I noticed the lights were still on in the garage of an old style gas station across the street. A young man was working under a pick-up truck on the lift, and a young woman was sitting there talking with him, looking at him as if he was her whole life. They were so content in their own little world that they paid me no attention at all. Ah young, small town love, thirty years in my past but I remember it like it was yesterday.

I took a couple of pictures then jumped back in the Valiant, and pulled up to the single stop sign. There were at least ten different large patches of fresh rubber laid down on the asphalt leaving the stop sign and crossing the intersection.
"My buddies left me bread crumbs to find my way", I chuckled to myself as I drove out of town.

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Re: Hot Rod Drag Week 2016: The Last Hurrah? [Re: MoparBilly] #2260885
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I successfully navigated from OH-93N to US-250E, and then onto OH-21N in the span of about two miles, then had a thirteen mile run into Massillon Ohio to find checkpoint #1. OH-21 in the dark, with 50 year old lighting was interesting in that it was a fairly small two lane with mature trees and foliage crowding the road. I was happy to see the lights of Massillon come into view. I'm pretty good at the highway changes, but the in town directions screw me up when we are hunting down a specific stop, so once in town, I pulled into the first gas stop I could find. I fueled up first, 7.06 gallons, the math said 12.39 mpgs on that leg. I walked in and grabbed a 24oz coffee/hot chocolate mix and showed my route instructions to the clerk. She pointed me in the right direction, and I jumped back in the Valiant with a quick glance at my phone, 1:50AM, this would not be my last cup of coffee on this leg of the journey.

There were still a couple of kids hanging out at the checkpoint when I arrived, at 2AM on a September Monday night!
"There have been guys pulling in every ten to fifteen minutes all night", they explained to me as I sat waiting for the brothers. I didn't have to wait long as they rolled in about ten minutes later and we were all back together again.
"If Boone only runs those two big electric fans sparingly", Dale explained, "the alternator can keep the battery charged up".
"What temp is the engine at without the fans on", I asked.
"Well, I can see the gauge move a little, so then I kick them on until it drops back down", Boone tried to explain.
"The sending unit is just black taped to the radiator hose", Dale added, "we didn't have the fittings we needed for the Meziere water pump".
I ran my hands through my hair then tossed them up beside my shoulders, "Good grief! So...when the gauge moves?"
"Yep", Boone gave me a toothy smile, "that's what we're rolling with!"


PS. I didn't pay attention to the mural in any way, and now looking at the map I realize we were only about eight miles away from Canton, home of the NFL Hall of Fame...another missed opportunity!

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